What's Wrong with us.........

desirocker · #1 September 21, 2007, 02:37 AM

I believe this is my 2nd thread in BC. And I hate to begin it this way. I am so upset with our last 2 matches. Its the batsmen who made us lose last 4 Twenty20 matches. Yestarday at one time we had 80 run for 2 wicket in 1st 10 overs and moments later it was 140 all out. Whch means we didn't take any lesson from the mistake we made last match.I am so disgusted with our batting performence. I am sure it's not about our ABILITY any more because all of us know that we can do batting since we have that source in our team but the batsmen themselves always mess it up most of the time. Its been happening for last few years. Last WC we lost to Ireland, W.Indies when the target to chase was less than 250. We became whitewashed in 2 test and 2 ODI series against INDIA and SRILANKA, and most of the time, it was the batsmen who blew the opportunity to win. And I can't blame the Selection Board any more beacue they've been doing replacement. The batsmen proved that they weren't worth it.

When we win one match after 4-5 loses against big teams, we claim that we r not minnows any more. If we go back the GOLDEN period of Zimbabwean Cricket, we can see that the FLOWER BROTHERS, ALLISTER CAMPBELL, NELL JOHNSON (although he didn't play for long time) made/chased big scores and won consistently againts team like INDIA, Newzeland, W.Indies, Srilanka........ I remember when they played 5 ODI series against INDIA, they were able to win 2 matches from 5 and in one triangular series (ZIM, SRILNK, IND) they had beaten Srilanka twince and India once in their 4 matches and qualified for the final and became runner up.

We have yet to perform like zimbabwe did back then. And the batsmen have to take that responsibility. The only way to come out of the shell called MINNOW, the batsmen need to use their ability and talent to make and chase big scores. I don't worry about our bowling side since the bowlers are economical and our fielding is ok. The batsmen need to remember what they're supposed to do. IF they Don't, we'll be minnow untill the last day on Earth.

Baundule · #2 September 21, 2007, 05:31 AM

I am disappointed from a different perspective. Even after a very successful series or tour I always want BD team to lose the last match or the last phase of the series very badly. Now the performance is a little better the BD players will go into their own little comfort zones, the BD management will also go into their own little comfort zones and so are we fans. These little comfort zones are killing the progress of our cricket. After every series and tour we need to stop going into these comfort zones. We have to always consider our every previous series as total failure, note that I don’t want to sound like 'gunda'. I hate the term strong finish in terms of a long series. We must learn to perform at the beginning, in the middle and at the death of a series. Looking back to the 2005 England tour where the whole tour was an utter failure, but we find quick comfort in beating Australia. Our players come home and we give them hero’s reception. We forget the whole tour and go into the oblivion that BD is in the same league as any other top cricketing nation. Our players do their training, exercise, batting/bowling practice according to the routine but the intensity is never there. They are not hungry anymore. Because they have already beaten Australia. If you can beat Australia then what is there to achieve in cricket. So our superstars become complacent. I know complacency does not go with Bangladesh team. How can Bangladesh be complacent when they are leading the ranking table from the bottom? It might sound a bit strange to some BC folks; to me the biggest complacent team in cricket is not Australia, South Africa, Srilanka or any other team for that matter. It is Bangladesh. It must be Bangladesh. Before the New Zealand tour the most dominant thread in BC will be the ‘next superstar’ thread.

We will soon become complacent because we already have the superstar. The messiah is here. All we need to do is dream, literally. So where do we go from here. This looks like an endless cycle. The way we don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel, we don’t see the end of this cycle either. This cycle must be broken. For heavens sake this cycle must be broken.

desirocker · #3 September 21, 2007, 08:59 AM

I Agree Too.

Sohel · #4 September 21, 2007, 09:03 AM

Bauldami-fueled fatalism and the primitive game of "Minesweeper" in full speed.

gunda · #5 September 21, 2007, 09:11 AM

i agree wiv u dey just win like 1 match in a tournament n fink dat da job is done! dey need to win a major tournament n win consistently to get da name tag 'MINNOWS' off dem..

Fazal · #6 September 26, 2007, 01:48 PM

What's Wrong with us.........

everything.

zahid · #7 September 26, 2007, 01:53 PM

Mthar ghilu kom- eitai amago problem

nasimul · #8 September 26, 2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by zahid
Mthar ghilu kom- eitai amago problem

Problem hoilo mathae jei tuku ghilu ashe sheitao use korina amra!!!!

zainab · #9 September 26, 2007, 03:58 PM

BCB needs to hire a sports psychologist as quickly as possible to brain wash this young team to believe in themselves. If they believe that they can win, then they will win, but they have to have the burning desire to succeed.
These young guys lack mental strength, they have the talent but cannot convert into smart cricket.
They have to be able to take a test match into the 4th day even if they lose, and try not to lose by an innings. i was in Sri lanka and I saw this debacle. Also all these strong teams jump at the chance of making records against BD.e.g Vass scoring his first century, Sangakkara making double centuries, other batsmen making centuries, Murali creating a new bowling record against these young hapless batsmen.
I am not Bangladeshi, so maybe i should not comment like this, but I have been very passionate about the BD team for a long time and always support them, and will continue my support of them.

desirocker · #10 September 26, 2007, 04:51 PM

Sports psychologist is a good option

Soheni · #11 September 26, 2007, 06:03 PM

Nice thread. I agree with you.

Fantastic · #12 September 26, 2007, 07:16 PM

I think every team needs a batsman to hold the innings together. Like Jacques Kallis of South Africa, Rahul Dravid of India, or Inzamam was for Pakistan. I hope we get one for our team soon. Maybe, Shakib could turn into one of them and hold the innings together.

zainab · #13 September 29, 2007, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fantastic
I think every team needs a batsman to hold the innings together. Like Jacques Kallis of South Africa, Rahul Dravid of India, or Inzamam was for Pakistan. I hope we get one for our team soon. Maybe, Shakib could turn into one of them and hold the innings together.

Shakib cannot even stay at the crease for more than 5 overs, the only batsman who can stay there is Mushy, even though he is not flambuoyant, but has a steady head, he does not give away his wicket very easily.

My observation with the batsmen is their impatience and impetuous streak. After 5 overs,something goes wrong with their heads. They have to learn to settle down and play sensibly even if the scoring is not that rapid. they want to score quickly all the time, and have not learnt ho to build an innings sensibly.

Mohiul · #14 September 29, 2007, 08:31 AM

Mushfiq does have very cool & calm mind in terms of batting

desirocker · #15 September 29, 2007, 03:39 PM

what about pilot? does anyone think bringing back pilot to hold the batting line up might even work?

cricket_king · #16 September 29, 2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fantastic
I think every team needs a batsman to hold the innings together. Like Jacques Kallis of South Africa, Rahul Dravid of India, or Inzamam was for Pakistan. I hope we get one for our team soon. Maybe, Shakib could turn into one of them and hold the innings together.

Shakib has some terrible technique problems. He looks awful and out-of-place on several occasions, and I doubt he'd be able to hold the team together.

Warlock · #17 October 4, 2007, 05:53 AM

What's wrong with us?
-- The lack of responsibility.

rainmaniac · #18 October 4, 2007, 08:02 AM

IMO the players concentrate more on individual performance rather than playing together for the team and country. i think when they go for a tour, they become home sick or something and start playing badly. they bring in their dressing-room problems in the field too and dont cooperate. they become nervous at the name of big countries and thus cannot play well. there r too many problems to solve and they should start solving them immediately. first, they have to solve their phycological problems becauz cricket is a game u have to play with mind n brain

zainab · #19 October 5, 2007, 06:08 AM

The national captain has a very big role to play in the gelling of a team. Ashraful is reckless and not dependable with his batting. I have watched at other captains and they try their best to hold the innings together even when the team is failing.
The captain leads from the front and the rest of the team follows.

cricket_king · #20 October 6, 2007, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zainab
The national captain has a very big role to play in the gelling of a team. Ashraful is reckless and not dependable with his batting. I have watched at other captains and they try their best to hold the innings together even when the team is failing.
The captain leads from the front and the rest of the team follows.

Trust me ashraful isn't his same reckless-self anymore...well...not as reckless as he used to be. Watching him during the Sri lanka series, where he was by miles our best batsman, and the 20/20 world cup, though brief it may have been, you could see a change in his game play.

zainab · #21 October 6, 2007, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cricket_king
Trust me ashraful isn't his same reckless-self anymore...well...not as reckless as he used to be. Watching him during the Sri lanka series, where he was by miles our best batsman, and the 20/20 world cup, though brief it may have been, you could see a change in his game play.

I am hoping that now that the burden of captaincy is upon him, that he bats sensibly, and try to build an innings not for his own glory, but for the team. I have seen some of his recklessness in the 20/20 matches. he did not score many runs in the rest of the matches, except for the one against the WI, where he batted sensibly, but was given a chance at 29. He gave away his wicket very easily, and this gets me mad with him.
He is such a stylish batsman once he gets going, he also has a problem with his mind, likes to slug the ball, and then gets caught. I hope one day that we can see him make another 100 in an ODI. He is capable!