Mahmoud Ahmedinejad at Columbia University

[PoorFan]

Originally Posted by Puck
...references to anti-semitism had been made. the general tone of what had been expressed by many contributors carry an anti-semitic bias and reveal narrowmindedness.

May I ask you to quote exactly which comments on this thread lead you to label "many contributors carry an anti-semitic bias and reveal narrowmindedness"? At least you could pick up few, ... if not all, since its seems to have loads of anti-semitic bias narrowmindedness comments.

It will be helpful for us ( many contributors ) to know the base of your wise judgment, and discuss more from each perspective.

[BanCricFan]

Originally Posted by Arnab
It's a show for public consumption. CU prez had to say what he said in order to make it more saucy.

That is one of the most outrageous and ludicrous statements I've ever heard! ...I don't see any "saucyness" in humiliating any invited guest in such a manner- let alone the Head of a country! Will this same "professor" take George W Bush to task for his killings of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq, his lies regarding the WMD and his invasion of Afganistan and more killings- if he (Bush) was an invited guest at his Uni? Would he have given the same kind of "welcomming" if it was Sharon the Butcher from Tel Aviv??

BTW, which show isn't for public consumption?

[Puck]

Originally Posted by PoorFan
May I ask you to quote exactly which comments on this thread lead you to label "many contributors carry an anti-semitic bias and reveal narrowmindedness"? At least you could pick up few, ... if not all, since its seems to have loads of anti-semitic bias narrowmindedness comments.

It will be helpful for us ( many contributors ) to know the base of your wise judgment, and discuss more from each perspective.

my dear poorfan, this is not an issue to be joked around. i don't wish to insult the intelligence of the forum readers. i think all readers can read and judge for themselves the sentiments expressed here.

i would like to highlight a particular issue that is not totally unrelated to your question. this forum has a reputation for being extremely welcoming. frequently, readers come through to these pages from bbc and other western sites. the 'forget cricket' forum ends up serving as a vehicle of advertisement for bangladesh and its diverse culture. in the past i had personally recommended it to a few academic friends of mine. i am sure that there are many lurkers who read our views expressed here as they want to gauge the nuance of what it is like to be a bangladesh born or born into the culture. a casual glance at the viewing figures for each thread shows how many read our drivel!

of late, reading the forum seems to give the impression that some of us are on a warpath, that bengalis are fanatics about something or other, and that we live up to some of the right wing western expectations of being a hotbed of jew-hating, west abhoring group of people. while there are some balanced views here as well, however, a few contributors regularly preach a traditionally islamic view of life that lack in historical and contextual understanding of the world islam came into. a few comments in the 'other sports' forum about israel and jewish athletes had been particularly scathing in the last month or so if we are just confining this discussion to anti-semitism. there are many other cases of general disdain for all things white, a mistaken belief in their total subjugation to a jewish elite and western culture in general. the overall impression is not pleasant for the outsider looking in. it must be stressed that these negetive views are principally coming from those who are living outside of the country and have been exposed to non-bengali cultures.

i am not advocating that we stop our rants. just be sensible. what i am suggesting is that in the age of the global communication, we can give out notions of being fundamentalist hotheads quite easily. the recent threads on ramadan and my own thread about a turkish photographer had generated some very narrowminded responses that gave the impression that we are living in the middle ages. this doesn't serve the nation or the culture we're born into well. so a little less of the pray five times a day or go to hell and the naval-gazing village islamic didactic would make the forum a balanced reading again. if you really wish to talk about islam knowledeably, pick up a copy of the excellent 'R Stephen Humphreys, 1991, Islamic History, A framework for inquiry, London, I.B. Tauris & Co' and read its first chapter. this contains a complete annotated bibliography of research material on islam in all the languages of the world covering all periods of history since 610 ad. do your reading, get a balanced view and then start preaching again!

secondly, since 9/11 there had been many security agencies all over the world closely monitoring internet useage. in uk alone, there used to be only a small unit based in manchester consisting of four members of staff who monitored the internet. this particular department alone now has quite a few times more members of staff and there are new agencies right left and centre browsing the internet, building up dossiers and getting paid for it! other european countries have similar agencies. we have all heard and read about homeland security department in the usa and its pervasive powers.

forums like this are searchable through google and other search engines. whether we like it or not, anyone can be traced and let us be convinced that they are. those users who post from outside of bangladesh are particularly vulnerable. we all know about the treatment of visitors to the us who have theophoric names. as bangladeshis, all of us have theophoric surnames even if our first names are not in arabic. those living, working or studying abroad are rather more under the gaze. 'they' might not come and knock on your door individually but the databases pick up more bytes, and a more suspicious gaze at the community in general is the result of what we express on the internet. need i mention the wrongful arrests in britain of individuals and countless others in usa. the innocent get caught up in the mess of a clash of fundamentalisms. the brazilian john charles the menezes was a classic example of having a tanned skin and getting caught up in the aftermath of the 7/7 attacks on london.

part of the world that i presently reside in has six mi6 officers particularly focusing on the muslim community and their activities as well as keeping an eye of young muslim students! most of the london academic instituions and cambridge would probably have many more at a rough estimate.

self-moderation in any forum is the ideal conduct. many posting and reading the forums might have views that would reinforce the notion of a fundamentalist element in the immigrant communities, however, lets not express the worst elements of it here, especially, those views that have an international and crosscultural bearing. i realise that my post might appear somewhat orwellian. the world that we live in is such. information can be our best friend or our worst enemy. so let's be sensible in our expressions. my sentiments expressed here had not been intended to spread alarm but just reminding some of the contributors that we have a responsibility to represent ourselves as worthy human beings who are part of a global community, not some sectarian ghetto. while we are at it, let us remember that the basis of islam is peace. preaching a message of peace, understanding and tolerance makes you more friends and influences more.

please note that i shall not be contributing to this thread anymore. i have had my say and have no wish to elaborate. we are all aware exactly what i have referred to and warned about in both of my two long posts. think about it and talk amongst yourselves if you wish!

peace be upon you.

[Arnab]

Originally Posted by BanCricFan
That is one of the most outrageous and ludicrous statements I've ever heard!

That's an odd reaction. Remember, I am not defending the CU president. Just pointing out that the whole setup is a drama for mass consumption and CU prez is an actor playing his part. May be his "delivery" rubs you the wrong way, but it's all part of the drama.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by BanCricFan
That is one of the most outrageous and ludicrous statements I've ever heard! ...I don't see any "saucyness" in humiliating any invited guest in such a manner- let alone the Head of a country! Will this same "professor" take George W Bush to task for his killings of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq, his lies regarding the WMD and his invasion of Afganistan and more killings- if he (Bush) was an invited guest at his Uni? Would he have given the same kind of "welcomming" if it was Sharon the Butcher from Tel Aviv??

BTW, which show isn't for public consumption?

i break my promise of no further responses just to respond to the above and to make another point. firstly, all left wing academics in usa and uk had protested against george w bush and tony blairs actions in starting an illegal war. there had been countless petitions, letters and articles to newspapers and magazines. there were marches organised by academics in both sides of the atlantic.

secondly, my previous post above wasn't directed at you pesonally but all readers who frequent these forums. that's it, no further posts in this thread.

[Alien]

Even though the holocaust was perpetrated by the Nazis, it was abused and re-abused by none other than the very people who suffered under it - the Jews.

Holocaust is exactly why Israel exists where it is today. The Zionists cleverly used it to create a state out of no where with tremendous international support. All generating from the massive sympathy from holocaust. Even though 4 generations of Palestinians live in refugee camps, living in poverty, its not them who receive any sympathy, its their better-off next door neighbour/invader.

Ahamdinejad probably believes in holocaust, but he by denying it, he is attacking the very core treasure all Zionists hold dear to - the utmost sympathy of holocaust.

[Special 1]

Originally Posted by Alien
Even though the holocaust was perpetrated by the Nazis, it was abused and re-abused by none other than the very people who suffered under it - the Jews.

Holocaust is exactly why Israel exists where it is today. The Zionists cleverly used it to create a state out of no where with tremendous international support. All generating from the massive sympathy from holocaust. Even though 4 generations of Palestinians live in refugee camps, living in poverty, its not them who receive any sympathy, its their better-off next door neighbour/invader.

Ahamdinejad probably believes in holocaust, but he by denying it, he is attacking the very core treasure all Zionists hold dear to - the utmost sympathy of holocaust.

Well, the zionists did use it in a clever way and it is their holy land promised in their holy book. I do not feel that the problem is Israel milking the holocaust, its the other arab states that are not helping out palestine, when they have enough resources to do so.
At the end of the day, its all about power and politics. Jews played their hand really well around 1947 and has been playing their hand really well eversince. Altho immoral and ruthless a lot of times. Muslims on this part of the world should not hate the jews but hate those barbarians in middle east, who claim to be the custodians of our religion when they merely practice the core foundations of it. Being is a muslim is far beyond praying, fasting and going to pilgrimage.

[Alien]

Originally Posted by Special 1
Well, the zionists did use it in a clever way and it is their holy land promised in their holy book. I do not feel that the problem is Israel milking the holocaust, its the other arab states that are not helping out palestine, when they have enough resources to do so.
At the end of the day, its all about power and politics. Jews played their hand really well around 1947 and has been playing their hand really well eversince. Altho immoral and ruthless a lot of times. Muslims on this part of the world should not hate the jews but hate those barbarians in middle east, who claim to be the custodians of our religion when they merely practice the core foundations of it. Being is a muslim is far beyond praying, fasting and going to pilgrimage.

Yes, other Arab nations are no saints, its their fault that they lost 6 consecutive wars to Israel. Just a day after Israel was proclaimed, 12 Arab armies entered without any sense of cooperation. And they all got belted out in now time.

Saying that they weren't milking the holocaust is an understatement. Every little thing they whinge "Our ancestor lived in this land, we were kicked around Europe for 20 something generations, we need our homeland, the nasty barbarian Arabs hate us...blah blah blah blah blah"

One thing you gotta understand is that they got a very big mouth for a very small nation. They make the whole west feel guilty with their anti-semetic past because it wasn't the Nazis only who treated the Jews bad, lots of countries did who saw them as unwanted foreigner since their Diaspora into Europe.

As for holy book, since when did the world run based on jewish holy books?

[Special 1]

Originally Posted by Alien
Yes, other Arab nations are no saints, its their fault that they lost 6 consecutive wars to Israel. Just a day after Israel was proclaimed, 12 Arab armies entered without any sense of cooperation. And they all got belted out in now time.

Saying that they weren't milking the holocaust is an understatement. Every little thing they whinge "Our ancestor lived in this land, we were kicked around Europe for 20 something generations, we need our homeland, the nasty barbarian Arabs hate us...blah blah blah blah blah"

One thing you gotta understand is that they got a very big mouth for a very small nation. They make the whole west feel guilty with their anti-semetic past because it wasn't the Nazis only who treated the Jews bad, lots of countries did who saw them as unwanted foreigner since their Diaspora into Europe.

As for holy book, since when did the world run based on jewish holy books?

well. some big countries in the world want to run their country based off the islam holy books, and believe me if someone invaded meccah and kept it under their rule and 1000s of years later muslims retook it, the muslims would also use the holy book argument. But that is besides the point.

They do have a big mouth for a lil country. But That lil country has the power to take on the whole of europe economically and militarily (and yes alone without help of big brother USA). its kind of sad, but its true

[BanCricFan]

Puck,
Thank you for taking the trouble and remimding us that the Big Brother is watching. I would say, let them watch. As muslims, we live our lives by certain lofty ideals and principles. One of them is to take action or, at least, to speak out against injustice. A willing failure to do so would be tantamount to accepting or allowing oppression to take place. We are duty-bound to fight against Injustice not only towards muslims but humanity as a whole.

Hatred has no place in Islam. The Prophet of Islam has commanded us "Do not hate a person but hate the wrong action he does". The Qur'an also commands us "Be just- its closest to Taqwa (piety)". Historically- and generally speaking- muslims have been governed by these maxims in our dealings with each other as well as the non-muslims.

[Special 1]

Originally Posted by BanCricFan
Hatred has no place in Islam. The Prophet of Islam has commanded us "Do not hate a person but hate the wrong action he does". The Qur'an also commands us "Be just- its closest to Taqwa (piety)". Historically- and generally speaking- muslims have been governed by these maxims in our dealings with each other as well as the non-muslims.

And does the quran specify what injustice is and what isnt? in an absolute sense.
On second thought do not bother replying. Since it is way off topic.

[BanCricFan]

Originally Posted by Special 1
And does the quran specify what injustice is and what isnt?

Off to break my fast soon...lets just say Qur'an urges us to make use of our intelect and be commonsensical about things!

If you want further specific info- please do ask. I'll try my best.

[BanCricFan]

Originally Posted by Special 1
And does the quran specify what injustice is and what isnt? in an absolute sense.
On second thought do not bother replying. Since it is way off topic.

just a fraction late...

[Ganguly da]

Ahmedijinad is full of crap, he ignored a lot of things, homosexual treatments in Iran is deplorable. He is constantly providing support to Shia terrorist groups in IRaq.

However, Bollinger shouldn't have said that to create cheap public sympathy.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Puck
there are always issues, however, it does not make the initial hatred any fairer. the tendency is to group human beings into religious, social or nationalistic boundaries, and it is expected that they all behave exactly the same way. this is just so unfair.

the world is much smaller now than it was in the past. the information age has revealed much about our inner beliefs. however, it seems that age old hatred remains dormant like a festering mould. the only way to alleviate this sense of the past is through dialogue and understanding. there is room for peaceful co-existence for each and every one of us. the nullyfying of the ira came through dialogue. the age between the intefada saw the plo leader greeted at white house lawn. talking achieves much in the long run. hatered does little to improve the human condition.

all well established facts.

on a different but probably related note, there is an anti israel bias in this and most muslim forums. as a result of the political and religious history of the middle east over the last 60 or so years. and it cuts both ways. someone had posted a picture of israeli children writing messages to lebense children on IAF bombs...there is a definite hatred between both groups, which i frankly find quite unsurprising.

personally, i am convinced that there will never be peace in the holy land if the people involved are israeli, american, and palestinian politicians. the first 2 sides have nothing to lose by retaining the status quo and the latter side has grown accustomed to the tribulations of it.

i believe that the answer to this lies inside America. the power of the jewish american lobby is a concretely established fact, and it is also apparent that muslim organizations are mobilizing now more than ever. unfortunately, they are counter-acting each other at the moment.

infinitely more likely than having an israeli-palestinian peace agreement is the american jewish and muslim communities coming together in agreement and then creating foreign policy legislation that will yield the environment from which a peaceful 2 state solution can emerge.

just as an example, tonight our campus iftaar is being co-hosted by the MSA and the Hillel (jewish organization). in fact, the Hillel invited us to join them in breaking our fast! truly unthinkable stuff for most in the forum, but its true.

this is the key, the only key.

[Alien]

Originally Posted by Special 1
well. some big countries in the world want to run their country based off the islam holy books, and believe me if someone invaded meccah and kept it under their rule and 1000s of years later muslims retook it, the muslims would also use the holy book argument. But that is besides the point.

Yeah well it doesn't say in our Quran that Mecca belongs to "Muslim only".

They do have a big mouth for a lil country. But That lil country has the power to take on the whole of europe economically and militarily (and yes alone without help of big brother USA). its kind of sad, but its true

Without American help? I find that hard to believe since every bomb dropped on Palestinian territory and Lebanon had "Made in USA" written on it. When war breaks out, the first aid they get is not money, but bombs and jet fuels. Oh, what about the nukes?

[Alien]

Originally Posted by Ganguly da
He is constantly providing support to Shia terrorist groups in IRaq.

There was a time when Bush's daddy use to provide support for Saddam. They guy they hung before last new year.

[chinaman]

Once upon a time, there was a king. His name was Reza Shah Pahlavi. One day ...

Originally Posted by Alien
There was a time when Bush's daddy use to provide support for Saddam...

[Zobair]

Indeed! 2 more words...Mosaddegh and the MKO! sigh!

Originally Posted by chinaman
Once upon a time, there was a king. His name was Reza Shah Pahlavi. One day ...

[Special 1]

Originally Posted by Alien
Yeah well it doesn't say in our Quran that Mecca belongs to "Muslim only".
Without American help? I find that hard to believe since every bomb dropped on Palestinian territory and Lebanon had "Made in USA" written on it. When war breaks out, the first aid they get is not money, but bombs and jet fuels. Oh, what about the nukes?

does it say in the torah that only jews can live in Jerusalem? As far as i know, no.

Sure these bombs are made in america, but a lot of this is financed by the israeli daispora in the US. And finally a lot of these bombs and technology is actually discovered in Israel. And finally, as long as you have the money, you own the world.
It doesnt matter where your supplies come from.

[PoorFan]

Dear Puck,

Looks like your comment ( anti semitic, bias, narrow mindedness ) came from whole BC forum rather only this thread. Since I didn't read your 'turkish photographer' thread, nor 'other sports' thread, so hadn't much clue how you came to conclusion that 'many contributors are anti semitic, bias and narrow mindedness'. Some people makes comments on Israel and jew from political POV, some from historical, and some from purely religious POV, and its so natural like any other places or forums, right or wrong is a different matter, but nothing unique here on BC I guess. And please note that there are many silent members, who are just reading the threads without making comments, means few tasteless comments doesn't represents the entire forum.

There are numbers of threads on Palestine, Israel, Hezbullah, Ahmadinejad ( when he said Israel should be wiped off from the map ) if you dig and read, I wish you will find how same people expressed their feelings on various issues. Recently there was a thread on 'Bangladesh should establish diplomatic relation with Israel', though I cant remember the exact title, but can remember most of the contributors responded positive. In my understanding Bangladeshi people basically do not support Israel from political POV ( recent US and Israeli policy, action on neighbor muslim countries ), then comes historical POV ( Palestine issue post world war two ), and then finally comes the religious POV.

For example, yesterday our foreign advisor once again called for Israeli withdrawal from all occupied Arab lands which is Bangladesh's political stand on Palestine issue based on long due UN resolution. Now hypothetically, somehow if Israel accept that UN resolution,, Bangladesh and her people ( more than 90% the least ) has no reason to be un supportive or critical against Israel, other than least effective ( least harmful towards Israel and jew ) religious POV. The reason because, unlike other middle east and north african muslim countries, Bangladesh and her ancient history has no direct or indirect conflict with Israel and jew, nor we ( BD people and jews ) ever lived to next door, to be abused or oppressed by each other for that matter.

Now, when I see a highly knowledgeable person like you, more importantly a Bangladeshi origin, labeling many contributors here on BC as 'anti semitic, bias, narrow mindedness', which has no practical, historical facts as back up, but just having different POV, different analogy ( could be wrong sometime though ) ... I find it rather harsh to say the least. Why we BD people, so easily should be label as anti semitic and so? To me, this is not an issue to be ignored.

As you and many others here on BC, I am also aware of well reputation of BC forum, also aware of interest of Bangladesh and her people, hence was my reaction on your that particular comment. No hard feelings, but hope you understand me.

[cricket_dorshok]

Originally Posted by PoorFan
Dear Puck,

Looks like your comment ( anti semitic, bias, narrow mindedness ) came from whole BC forum rather only this thread. Since I didn't read your 'turkish photographer' thread, nor 'other sports' thread, so hadn't much clue how you came to conclusion that 'many contributors are anti semitic, bias and narrow mindedness'. Some people makes comments on Israel and jew from political POV, some from historical, and some from purely religious POV, and its so natural like any other places or forums, right or wrong is a different matter, but nothing unique here on BC I guess. And please note that there are many silent members, who are just reading the threads without making comments, means few tasteless comments doesn't represents the entire forum.

There are numbers of threads on Palestine, Israel, Hezbullah, Ahmadinejad ( when he said Israel should be wiped off from the map ) if you dig and read, I wish you will find how same people expressed their feelings on various issues. Recently there was a thread on 'Bangladesh should establish diplomatic relation with Israel', though I cant remember the exact title, but can remember most of the contributors responded positive. In my understanding Bangladeshi people basically do not support Israel from political POV ( recent US and Israeli policy, action on neighbor muslim countries ), then comes historical POV ( Palestine issue post world war two ), and then finally comes the religious POV.

For example, yesterday our foreign advisor once again called for Israeli withdrawal from all occupied Arab lands which is Bangladesh's political stand on Palestine issue based on long due UN resolution. Now hypothetically, somehow if Israel accept that UN resolution,, Bangladesh and her people ( more than 90% the least ) has no reason to be un supportive or critical against Israel, other than least effective ( least harmful towards Israel and jew ) religious POV. The reason because, unlike other middle east and north african muslim countries, Bangladesh and her ancient history has no direct or indirect conflict with Israel and jew, nor we ( BD people and jews ) ever lived to next door, to be abused or oppressed by each other for that matter.

Now, when I see a highly knowledgeable person like you, more importantly a Bangladeshi origin, labeling many contributors here on BC as 'anti semitic, bias, narrow mindedness', which has no practical, historical facts as back up, but just having different POV, different analogy ( could be wrong sometime though ) ... I find it rather harsh to say the least. Why we BD people, so easily should be label as anti semitic and so? To me, this is not an issue to be ignored.

As you and many others here on BC, I am also aware of well reputation of BC forum, also aware of interest of Bangladesh and her people, hence was my reaction on your that particular comment. No hard feelings, but hope you understand me.

[Alien]

Originally Posted by Special 1
does it say in the torah that only jews can live in Jerusalem? As far as i know, no.

On that day, God made a covenant with Abraham, saying: "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river the Euphrates. The land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites; the Hittites, Perizzites, Refaim; the Emorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21

Originally Posted by Special 1
Sure these bombs are made in america, but a lot of this is financed by the israeli daispora in the US. And finally a lot of these bombs and technology is actually discovered in Israel. And finally, as long as you have the money, you own the world.
It doesnt matter where your supplies come from.

Bombs financed by Israeli Diaspora. Doesn't that sound ridiculous? Why and mainly how does Israeli "Diaspora" ship a whole bunch of weapons during a war?

They are weapon "aids" from the US government. Israeli Diaspora don't stock jet fuels and cruise missiles in their garage.

[Special 1]

Originally Posted by Alien
On that day, God made a covenant with Abraham, saying: "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river the Euphrates. The land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites; the Hittites, Perizzites, Refaim; the Emorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21

Bombs financed by Israeli Diaspora. Doesn't that sound ridiculous? Why and mainly how does Israeli "Diaspora" ship a whole bunch of weapons during a war?

They are weapon "aids" from the US government. Israeli Diaspora don't stock jet fuels and cruise missiles in their garage.

i do not seee the word "only" or exclusively in your quote from the torah. and also, muslims are supposed to be descendents of abraham aswell? right? so...

About you second part, bhai do you get the concept of money at all? it is a medium of exchange. So, as long as the jews have money they essentially have the bombs when they need it. And another thing, i dont think war shuru howar por or ek week ageh they start stocking up bombs. jemne boltaso jeh juddho hoile first thing they need is bombs from united states. These things are done in advance. Aaaar just to clarify by what i meant by "help from america" is that during that israel can win a war with the europe without any active interference from the US military.
IDF is the second/third strongest military in the world whether u like it or not and that is the point i am trying to emphasize, not kon jaiga thike tel ashtase or what not.

[Special 1]

Originally Posted by PoorFan
Dear Puck,

Looks like your comment ( anti semitic, bias, narrow mindedness ) came from whole BC forum rather only this thread. Since I didn't read your 'turkish photographer' thread, nor 'other sports' thread, so hadn't much clue how you came to conclusion that 'many contributors are anti semitic, bias and narrow mindedness'. Some people makes comments on Israel and jew from political POV, some from historical, and some from purely religious POV, and its so natural like any other places or forums, right or wrong is a different matter, but nothing unique here on BC I guess. And please note that there are many silent members, who are just reading the threads without making comments, means few tasteless comments doesn't represents the entire forum.

There are numbers of threads on Palestine, Israel, Hezbullah, Ahmadinejad ( when he said Israel should be wiped off from the map ) if you dig and read, I wish you will find how same people expressed their feelings on various issues. Recently there was a thread on 'Bangladesh should establish diplomatic relation with Israel', though I cant remember the exact title, but can remember most of the contributors responded positive. In my understanding Bangladeshi people basically do not support Israel from political POV ( recent US and Israeli policy, action on neighbor muslim countries ), then comes historical POV ( Palestine issue post world war two ), and then finally comes the religious POV.

For example, yesterday our foreign advisor once again called for Israeli withdrawal from all occupied Arab lands which is Bangladesh's political stand on Palestine issue based on long due UN resolution. Now hypothetically, somehow if Israel accept that UN resolution,, Bangladesh and her people ( more than 90% the least ) has no reason to be un supportive or critical against Israel, other than least effective ( least harmful towards Israel and jew ) religious POV. The reason because, unlike other middle east and north african muslim countries, Bangladesh and her ancient history has no direct or indirect conflict with Israel and jew, nor we ( BD people and jews ) ever lived to next door, to be abused or oppressed by each other for that matter.

Now, when I see a highly knowledgeable person like you, more importantly a Bangladeshi origin, labeling many contributors here on BC as 'anti semitic, bias, narrow mindedness', which has no practical, historical facts as back up, but just having different POV, different analogy ( could be wrong sometime though ) ... I find it rather harsh to say the least. Why we BD people, so easily should be label as anti semitic and so? To me, this is not an issue to be ignored.

As you and many others here on BC, I am also aware of well reputation of BC forum, also aware of interest of Bangladesh and her people, hence was my reaction on your that particular comment. No hard feelings, but hope you understand me.

Bhai, speak for youself! MY experience about bangladesh has beeen totally differenT. Most people in Bangladesh that i have met or asked questions to about jews, hate jews. Bangladeshe ekta jew aishe jodi boleh shey jew er ki obostah hobeh only god knows. And i would term that as anti semitic.
I guesss the BC cricket members are an anomaly, altho some of them claim to represent the avergae bangladeshi population, they are far far from it (i am saying it in a good way).