We might no longer be taking part in future World T20s or Champions Trophy!!!

[israr]

I don't know why this topic wasn't brought up earlier. Its seriously shocking. In the beginning, I was diffident to accept this, but after some thorough surfing on the net, my worst fears came true. In the upcoming Champions Trophy in 2008, only the top eight ranked teams shall be participating, with no preliminary qualifying rounds as staged in 2006. The format will be the same for 2009 World T20, and only the 'elite eight' nations will be included.
Check these out if you are still hesitant to believe:
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/west...ry/245875.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/4834568.stm

Its time to protest, to raise our voice before its too late. We should not let these double standards take place if cricket really wants to portary itself as the 'game of love and unity'.

We will rise one day, no one can stop us from reaching our summit.
We're on our way INSHA'ALLAH!!!

[Sohel]

Actually, this may turn out to be a blessing in disguise IF it means that BCB will respond appropriately to this 'raising of the bar', and do what is necessary for us to be in the top 8 by setting our players up for better success at the highest level. Domestic FC cricket needs to be reformatted and revitalized faster than it has been among all other excellent 'plans' that tend to lose a great deal of seriousness when it comes to quality 'implementation'. Some of our players may also stop taking their status for granted and be as serious as they need to be mentally fit enough to deliver the type of consistent performances needed to be stay a top 8 team.

Maybe this type of kick-in-the-pants is just what we need to address some of the traditional slack and complacency at multiple levels, and do what is necessary to better apply our talent in the middle where it counts the most. Tough love generates good things in those who survive it ...

[cricket_king]

Ahh crap! Well if the ICC are trying to raise the popularity of cricket, why in hell would they only allow the top 8 teams to play? Dammit!
Well...guess there's no point in having a cry...we gotta get ourselves up there in the top 8.

[al Furqaan]

of course, something has to be done...bangladesh keeps raining on the parade!

[Rifat]

i see it as no big deal... calm down.

Inshallah, Bangladesh will be playing many many cricket matches next year, let's just hope that we succeed as expected in NZ at least in the ODI version (one victory should be satisfactory enough but anything less than that will make us "minnows"(if that term is still being used to label us) again)(forget about test) and then pull off some upsets in February/March...

then let's talk about this subject!

[switchbak]

stupid icc ...i thought they want the cricket to grow in USA CHINA ..n now the real teams cant even participate, how can those teams like USA CHINA play

[AsifTheManRahman]

bepar na...world cup e giye 2/4ta boro bhai ke chor thappor khaway dile icc abar line e chole ashbe.

[shujan]

Bangladesh need to make up 50 + points in ICC ODI ranking to place them in 8th position.

Beating NZ and south africa atleast once in the upcoming series will improve about 5 points. Then arrange couple of 5 ODI series against Zimabawe, Kaneya and Ireland and start climbs in the points to catch 105 by beating them. We need to keep on winning.


Bangladesh next target should be to climb in the 8th spot in ODI ranking.

1	Australia	130
		2	South Africa	124
		3	New Zealand	114
		4	Sri Lanka	108
		5	Pakistan	108
		6	India	108
		7	England	107
		8	West Indies	102
		9	Bangladesh	48
		10	Ireland	28
		11	Zimbabwe	17
		12	Kenya	0

[switchbak]

Originally Posted by shujan
....Bangladesh need to make up 50 + points in ICC ODI ranking to place them in 8th position.

Beating NZ and south africa atleast once in the upcoming series will improve about 5 points. Then arrange couple of 5 ODI series against Zimabawe, Kaneya and Ireland and start climbs in the points to catch 105 by beating them. We need to keep on winning.....


Bangladesh next target should be to climb in the 8th spot in ODI ranking.

50 point. wow.DHELA ACHEY, beating SA n NZ ?!?! ... in our dreams.may be one match out of 2 series.
only 1 n easier then "EARNING 50" way to play on T20 n Champion T. is to kill ICCs managements, or make them change the rule to "ONLY LOW RANKING TEAM CAN PLAY on T20 n blah blah"

[nasimul]

Originally Posted by shujan
Beating NZ and south africa atleast once in the upcoming series will improve about 5 points. Then arrange couple of 5 ODI series against Zimabawe, Kaneya and Ireland and start climbs in the points to catch 105 by beating them. We need to keep on winning.

There are two different formulae. One applies if the gap between the two teams' ratings is less than 40 points, the other if the gap is 40 points or more. The points you score from a particular ODI are as follows:

Case 1 - gap between the two teams' ratings is less than 40 points:

• if you win, you score 50 points more than your opponent's rating
• if you lose, you score 50 points less than your opponent's rating
• if you tie, you score your opponent's rating

Case 2 - gap between the two teams' ratings is 40 points or more:

• if the stronger team wins, it scores 10 points more than its own rating while the weaker team scores 10 points less than its own rating
• if the weaker team wins, it scores 90 points more than its own rating while the stronger team scores 90 points less than its own rating
• if the match is tied, the stronger team scores 40 points less than its own rating and the weaker team scores 40 points more than its own rating

[Eshen]

The rating difference between BD and WI is too great. Even if all of a sudden we start to win matches more regularly (say every fourth/fifth ODI) and WI continues to be a miserable team, it will still take 2/3 years for us to take over WI. That means we are not going to play in 2008 champions trophy, 2009 T20 wc, and, possibly, 2010 champions trophy.

[Nafi]

trust me the gap is much smaller

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by Nafi
trust me the gap is much smaller

Trust me, the gap is huge. I can say there is 99% surety that Bangladesh won't play in 2008 Champions Trophy or in 2009 T20 WC if ICC stays with its decision to restrict those tournaments for top eight teams.

[Nafi]

BTW we arent trying to get 50 points, thats rating which is is different.

The objective is to get 1000 points, which would require three wins against top sides such SA and NZ and a four more from the middle teams such as England and India. Its very possible with amount of cricket we play before the champions trophy.

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by Nafi

The objective is to get 1000 points, which would require three wins against top sides such SA and NZ and a four more from the middle teams such as England and India. Its very possible with amount of cricket we play before the champions trophy.

Sounds like you are having trouble with elementary math, so let me explain it to you in little more detail -

Currently Bangladesh have 1238 points in 26 matches. Say we miraculously win next seven matches against big boys and earn another 1000 points. Then we have 2238 points in 33 (26+7) matches. Our rating then becomes 2238/33=68 which is far away from WI's current rating of 102.

BTW, last time I checked, we generally get only 1-2 wins against big boys in a calendar year.

[israr]

Originally Posted by Eshen
BTW, last time I checked, we generally get only 1-2 wins against big boys in a calendar year.

Its going to change brother, its just the beginning of the beginning. The actual drama is yet to unfold. Faith in , and that's all what is required from us.

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by israr
Its going to change brother, its just the beginning of the beginning. The actual drama is yet to unfold. Faith in , and that's all what is required from us.

I also think things are going to change, but the change is not going to be as dramatic as some of you think.

[israr]

Originally Posted by Nafi
trust me the gap is much smaller

I know that the gap you're talking about is very small, but the other gap being discussed here is quite big. But no fears, we are going to overcome it sooner than later. Insha'ALLAH!

[Eshen]

Malcolm Speed has confirmed last month that only top eight teams will play in 2008 Champions Trophy.

... the 2008 Champions Trophy would be completed in just over two weeks.

"We are committed to the Champions Trophy," Speed insisted.

"It will be an eight-team event, with two groups of four - a short, sharp tournament with the best teams playing in Pakistan next year in September....

Speed reins in hype over Twenty20

However, I still hope ICC will be wise enough not to mess with the 12-team format of the T20 WC, regardless how much England may like it to be an 8-team affair.

[Murad]

Don't worry about the T20 Championship cause by 2009 we willl be in the top 8 in the T20 Rankings.. They wont look at the ODI rankings for T20 championship, I believe.

We will see a ranking chart very soon from the ICC.

however, to reach top 8 in ODI, we need another 4 years at least...

[Ahmed_B]

Question is... why you guys counting the top-8 ODI teams for the T20 WC? Plain logic says it has to be top-8 T20 teams.. right?

[cricket_king]

Originally Posted by Ahmed_B
Question is... why you guys counting the top-8 ODI teams for the T20 WC? Plain logic says it has to be top-8 T20 teams.. right?

Well I really don't care whether we play in T20 tournament or not. That's one cricket tournament I don't support. ODIs are my main concern.

[Lord AK]

Originally Posted by cricket_king
Well I really don't care whether we play in T20 tournament or not. That's one cricket tournament I don't support. ODIs are my main concern.

You might not be concerned but other people are.

[Foozy]

Originally Posted by israr
I don't know why this topic wasn't brought up earlier. Its seriously shocking. In the beginning, I was diffident to accept this, but after some thorough surfing on the net, my worst fears came true. In the upcoming Champions Trophy in 2008, only the top eight ranked teams shall be participating, with no preliminary qualifying rounds as staged in 2006. The format will be the same for 2009 World T20, and only the 'elite eight' nations will be included.
Check these out if you are still hesitant to believe:
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/west...ry/245875.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/4834568.stm

Its time to protest, to raise our voice before its too late. We should not let these double standards take place if cricket really wants to portary itself as the 'game of love and unity'.

We will rise one day, no one can stop us from reaching our summit.
We're on our way INSHA'ALLAH!!!

Thanks for that post bro, I for one have replied to the cricinfo link. There is a feedback link below it, and I just wrote them a comment. I think all of us should do that. It will really feel bad to not see Bangladesh in any of the major events. That will surely suck! So comeon bangalis!! Lets take 30 seconds and just send in a note. There should be some sort of a reaction!

[Aritro]

Can't complain too much about being left out of the Champion's Trophy, although I think it's a slight slap in the face given that we're a Test team.

But if they go through with this decision to restrict the T20 circus to the top 8 teams, it'll be yet another act of monumental stupidity from the ICC. T20 is exactly the platform cricket needs to promote the game in non-traditional regions. If anything, the format for the next one should be expanded not only to include all the 14 teams who were involved in the One Day world cup, but also to involve countries like Nepal, Afghanistan and Uganda.

They've missed a real trick here.