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Old December 12, 2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Muslim helps Jews on New York subway

And surprise surprise. The Muslim is a student from BANGLADESH.

Thought you guys would like the news.

The News is also in CNN and scrolling in the bottom right now...

NEW YORK (CNN) -- A Muslim man jumped to the aid of three Jewish subway riders after they were attacked by a group of young people who objected to one of the Jews saying "Happy Hanukkah," a spokeswoman for the three said Wednesday.
The New York Police Department's Hate Crimes Task Force is investigating Friday's incident on the Q train.





Friday's altercation on the Q train began when somebody yelled out "Merry Christmas," to which rider Walter Adler responded, "Happy Hanukkah," said Toba Hellerstein.


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Another passenger, Hassan Askari -- a Muslim student from Bangladesh -- came to Adler's aid, and the group began physically and verbally assaulting him, Hellerstein said.




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Old December 12, 2007, 11:18 PM
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The fact that the guy is Muslim has nothing to do with this, because it is unlikely that the Jews knew about his religious beliefs. Besides, I doubt the Bangladeshi guy knew that the Jews were Jews, or that the attack was over religion - when you're crammed into limited space on the noisy subway, dialogs often go unheard. This was an example of a man coming to the aid of some other men - something that many people would do instinctively. The media has no business bringing up the religious backgrounds of the parties concerned here, except maybe for the first part of the story leading to the cause of the attacks.
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Old December 12, 2007, 11:31 PM
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Interesting point Asif. Anyway, what with the BD cabbie returning a bag ful of diamonds (wasn't that also to a Hasidic jewish owner?), this has been a good year for brand Bangladesh in NYC!
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Old December 12, 2007, 11:34 PM
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Asif, Hassan knew they were jews. He heard them saying Happy Hannukah in reply to Merry Christmas. But I do agree that Hassan's attempt was to help a fellow human being which was portrayed by media using religious background, it was indeed a very courageous act. If you watch Adler and Hasan talking about it in the video then you will get the whole picture.
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Old December 12, 2007, 11:37 PM
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I agree with what ATMR said... I'm sure the press love the sound of "a Muslim helping a Jew", but it really is a case of a good human being coming to the aid of someone in distress.
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Old December 12, 2007, 11:37 PM
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if you watch the video the guy clearly says The bangladeshi guy knew we were jews but still he jumped in. Also they interview Hasasn were he says "the guy said happy hann.... nothing else...".

SO i guess all your assumption on not knowing what was going on or they r jews r not right...

And i think this is good that news like this come up. cause all we see is muslim blasting and killing by bomb or dad killed his daughter for not wearing head scurf.
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Old December 12, 2007, 11:39 PM
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I agree with what ATMR said... I'm sure the press love the sound of "a Muslim helping a Jew", but it really is a case of a good human being coming to the aid of someone in distress.

Well there were other jews, chirstans in the train but the only muslim came to aid. now you do the match.
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Old December 12, 2007, 11:42 PM
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Well there were other jews, chirstans in the train but the only muslim came to aid. now you do the match.
Are you trying to make a generalized statement that "only muslims are good people and come to the aid of others?"
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Old December 12, 2007, 11:45 PM
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The point here is that him being Muslim doesn't have anything to do with him helping a bunch of guys getting the crap beaten out of them at a public place. Same goes for the receivers being Jews.
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Old December 12, 2007, 11:46 PM
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Are you trying to make a generalized statement that "only muslims are good people and come to the aid of others?"
Oh please refrain from this...I don't think he mean that. It was a brave and humanitarian act. Adler says "when muslims gets portrayed as enemies of Isreal and Jews...a bangladeshi muslim comes to the aid...". In summary, muslims are not "BAD" as portrayed by the media, thats what I believe akabir and also Adler means.
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The point here is that him being Muslim doesn't have anything to do with him helping a bunch of guys getting the crap beaten out of them at a public place. Same goes for the receivers being Jews.
Agreed, but media will do their job.
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Title was bit misleading, changed it a bit.
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Old December 12, 2007, 11:54 PM
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Well, i guess the media is just trying to give a good potrait here.
Amidst all the negative, a little positive story, whichever way u see it, doesnt hurt.
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Old December 13, 2007, 12:04 AM
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Agreed, but media will do their job.
The Adler guy is probably playing it up for the media more than anyone else. I didn't hear Hassan portray it as "helping jews against christians."

And going by the other posts in this thread, it's working.
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Old December 13, 2007, 12:12 AM
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Hassan did not have any reason for saying that, his help was not based on the religious background. Adler did because his attack was based on the religion, and he was touched that someone who is portrayed as the enemey of jews came to help them.

As Sydney said, this is just a rare positive remark about Muslims in American media, so I would not mind.
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Old December 13, 2007, 12:23 AM
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Well, it's not like Adler's supposed to be aware of the average Bangladeshi muslim's apathy towards Jewish people. Who knows, Hassan might even just be as much a "muslim" as Zidane is...

Now if this was a devout muslim Arab from the middle-east, then you might have something there...
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oh wow.. that dude got some balls! If it's one guy picking on one guy, it makes sense to join the victim to outnumber the attacker but against 20 or so people. Gotta handed it to this guy....
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Old December 13, 2007, 12:27 AM
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oh wow.. that dude got some balls! If it's one guy picking on one guy, it makes sense to join the victim to outnumber him but against 20 or so people. Gotta handed it to this guy....
I'd like the media to portray it as "Bangladeshis have more balls than others"
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The fact that the guy is Muslim has nothing to do with this, because it is unlikely that the Jews knew about his religious beliefs. Besides, I doubt the Bangladeshi guy knew that the Jews were Jews, or that the attack was over religion - when you're crammed into limited space on the noisy subway, dialogs often go unheard. This was an example of a man coming to the aid of some other men - something that many people would do instinctively. The media has no business bringing up the religious backgrounds of the parties concerned here, except maybe for the first part of the story leading to the cause of the attacks.
arey bhai, your statement is correct, given the premise that the media is not biased against any one religion. that we all know is NOT the case.

this story will not come out on glenn beck or oreilly factor or anything. anderson cooper might mention it in passing.

so if the media wants to report 1 good story out of the tens of thousands of bad ones, who are we to complain?
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Old December 13, 2007, 12:32 AM
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I'd like the media to portray it as "Bangladeshis have more balls than others"
haven't seen a bangladeshi kid stand up to 50 ton tank...nothing against bangladeshi kids, but unless your talking about kids in 1971 or a sidr victim, bangladeshi kids haven't seen the worst the world or humanity has to offer.
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But we shouldn't be looking to earn a pat on the back for something that someone has done on purely humanitarian grounds rather than religious ones, just as we shouldn't be stereotyped against by people of other religions in the first place. Taking advantage of situations and shaping them to one's liking isn't healthy.
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haven't seen a bangladeshi kid stand up to 50 ton tank...nothing against bangladeshi kids, but unless your talking about kids in 1971 or a sidr victim, bangladeshi kids haven't seen the worst the world or humanity has to offer.
Okay, how about "Bangladeshi kid had more balls than other passengers on the subway" ... ?
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Taking advantage of situations and shaping them to one's liking isn't healthy.
Unfortunately, that's what the media is all about.
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Orphy, orphy, orphy... * shakes head *




(well, okay... that was funny... )
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Okay, how about "Bangladeshi kid had more balls than other passengers on the subway" ... ?
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