Hashim Amla Asks for Halal Food at Kurmitola

One World · #1 February 15, 2008, 12:47 AM

The reporter seems to be very sympathetic to the lone muslim member of the visiting South Africa team.

Link

To me its a bit disturbing and insulting. If I am so concerned about my faith I should be aware of the country I am visiting. The ignorance of not knowing Bangladesh, one of the test elite as a muslim nation by a visiting cricketer is not acceptable. I mean is not it a bit nosy.

sandpiper · #2 February 15, 2008, 12:53 AM

He should ask for Halal things in his native country, not here.

We eat all Halal foods in Dhaka.

beta chagol

Surfer · #3 February 15, 2008, 03:55 AM

Cant read that site....what has happened?

Alien · #4 February 15, 2008, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Surfer
Cant read that site....what has happened?

It was mostly about the SA team arriving, lodging into hotel, playing some BCB President 11 or sth and that dude wanting Halal food. Almost the news as this.

Rabz · #5 February 15, 2008, 05:05 AM

Ignorance or lack of respect?

I say a bit of both.

Surfer · #6 February 15, 2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Alien
It was mostly about the SA team arriving, lodging into hotel, playing some BCB President 11 or sth and that dude wanting Halal food. Almost the news as this.

Oh, thats innocuous, isnt that? Isnt halal food eaten by all Muslims and should be available in BD easily?

Alien · #7 February 15, 2008, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Surfer
Oh, thats innocuous, isnt that? Isnt halal food eaten by all Muslims and should be available in BD easily?

Yes. In fact it's the only meat available in BD. They used to have a pork item in the menu of one of the cafe in the airport(long time ago) beyond the immigration, dunno if they still do today. That's the only non-halal item in the whole of BD (if it still exists).

Anyway, the guy has a tendency to check for halal outlets wherever he goes to play. He did the same in Kolkata in one of the articles I read about him some time back. I guess that instinct just kicked in then before realising where he is.

akabir77 · #8 February 15, 2008, 10:31 AM

Comon guys take it easy. this is his first visit to bangladesh and probably it has became a second nature to him to ask about halal food every where he goes.

For example even if i am in a arab store (people who looks like arab) i always make sure that its the halal food(if i am there for the first time) cause some christans from palastin or lebanon can have the same kind of store with no halal food. on the other hand we have a indian store (he is from tamil or some where close) but serves halal food.

Anyway give him some slack and see he does that next time he visits bangladesh.

Tigers_eye · #9 February 15, 2008, 10:56 AM

lol people. Come on!!

The reporter mentions he didn't know anything about BD and its people. This is his first trip. So asking for Halal food is only natural. Those who think that Amla's lack of knowledge can be held against him think again. he didn't see inzi, Yusuf, fridi like bearded BD players in the team.

All he heard is Bd was part of India before.

Don't get mad get 'glad'.

al Furqaan · #10 February 15, 2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
lol people. Come on!!

The reporter mentions he didn't know anything about BD and its people. This is his first trip. So asking for Halal food is only natural. Those who think that Amla's lack of knowledge can be held against him think again. he didn't see inzi, Yusuf, fridi like bearded BD players in the team.

All he heard is Bd was part of India before.

Don't get mad get 'glad'.

true, but it still kind of insultiing. but i guess amla is just a muslim version of a "dumb jock".

but bangladeshis, as all others, could also be a bit more grateful for being muslim rather than taking it for granted.

Dawah · #11 February 15, 2008, 11:38 AM

It might be breaking news for you folks. But, not all meat that you eat in BD are halal especially, the meat they serve in restaurants, fast food stores in the form of curry or meat burgers.

Most meat suppliers do not say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" when they slaughter the animal. Even the regular meat stores, most of the time do not say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" when they slaughter the animal.

This happens due to ignorance. Animal slaughterer thinks just saying "Bismillah" & "Takbir" on the 1st animal in the batch is enough for rest of them on the line and many meat slaughterers do not even know or care about "Bismillah" & "Takbir" during slaughter. I have been in Tabligh many times in rural areas. I have seen first hand, the Deeni understanding and desire to practice Islam among the meat store stuff is very poor. Right in front of meat store is the Masjid. But, even for Jummah, they won't close their stores to go pray Jummah. If these so call "Muslim" meat stores stuff does not even care about saying their Jummah salat right in front of their store, how do we expect them to take the time to say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" before slaughtering the animal?

Finally, Bangladesh is not an Islamic country. It is a country where majority are Muslims or so called "Muslims by birth". It is fair that Hashim Amla would ask for halal food, and not hope every food is halal, MashaAllah!

Tigers_eye · #12 February 15, 2008, 11:43 AM

To tell you the truth, when I visit home, I tend to avoid restaurants because of this halal (Zabiha) issue. If I a Bangladeshi have doubts, Amla's doubt is more so should be acceptable.

(Posh) Chinese restaurant'a mora morgi (obviously cheap but can not be halal) khawai.

Miraz · #13 February 15, 2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawah

Most meat suppliers do not say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" when they slaughter the animal. Even the regular meat stores, most of the time do not say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" when they slaughter the animal.

This happens due to ignorance. Animal slaughterer thinks just saying "Bismillah" & "Takbir" on the 1st animal in the batch is enough for rest of them on the line and many meat slaughterers do not even know or care about "Bismillah" & "Takbir" during slaughter.

Your description does not match with my experience. As a student of DU we worked in a related project and always found the butchers are saying "Bismillah Allah Akbar" before every slaughter.

Your account on this issue is an assumption which has no valid proof or reference.

akabir77 · #14 February 15, 2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawah
It might be breaking news for you folks. But, not all meat that you eat in BD are halal especially, the meat they serve in restaurants, fast food stores in the form of curry or meat burgers.

Most meat suppliers do not say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" when they slaughter the animal. Even the regular meat stores, most of the time do not say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" when they slaughter the animal.

This happens due to ignorance. Animal slaughterer thinks just saying "Bismillah" & "Takbir" on the 1st animal in the batch is enough for rest of them on the line and many meat slaughterers do not even know or care about "Bismillah" & "Takbir" during slaughter. I have been in Tabligh many times in rural areas. I have seen first hand, the Deeni understanding and desire to practice Islam among the meat store stuff is very poor. Right in front of meat store is the Masjid. But, even for Jummah, they won't close their stores to go pray Jummah. If these so call "Muslim" meat stores stuff does not even care about saying their Jummah salat right in front of their store, how do we expect them to take the time to say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" before slaughtering the animal?

Finally, Bangladesh is not an Islamic country. It is a country where majority are Muslims or so called "Muslims by birth". It is fair that Hashim Amla would ask for halal food, and not hope every food is halal, MashaAllah!

Where do you get your information from? from your cousins? may be they r like that... don't judge the whole country by your cousins or relatives...

Beamer · #15 February 15, 2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Miraz
Your description does not match with my experience. As a student of DU we worked in a related project and always found the butchers are saying "Bismillah Allah Akbar" before every slaughter.

Your account on this issue is an assumption which has no valid proof or reference.

I agree with that. Not every meat store in the country are in front of masjid's either. What bogus assumption ! In any case, assuming the meat stores are perched in front of masjid's, which they are not, why must they have to close before jummah prayer? Isn't it up to that individual owner of the shop to decide that? If he/she wants to keep the store open for business during holiday ( Friday is one and people do shop ) or during any particular hour to help earn legit income for his/her and their family, who are we or anyone to tell them otherwise?

Surfer · #16 February 15, 2008, 12:22 PM

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Finally, Bangladesh is not an Islamic country. It is a country where majority are Muslims or so called "Muslims by birth".

I am afraid my knowledge of either Islam or Bangladeshi politics is not very strong, but can someone explain that a little more? I am sorry if its the wrong place, but I am curious after reading that.

Kabir · #17 February 15, 2008, 12:46 PM

A few days ago, there was a question about Bangladesh being an Islami ccountry or not. I thought it's a secular one. However, the government apparently made amendments to include Islam as the state religion.

However, there seems to be distinction between a religion being declared a state religion, and a country being considered as having a religious belief (I believe, that's constitutionally?). That is, what will differentiate BD from Saudi Arabia? Is it the Islamic law vs secular law? Then may be I was right?

I will appreciate if someone can explain the difference to me.

mshakir56 · #18 February 15, 2008, 01:02 PM

Just plain lack of knowledge from Hashim Amla, thats about it I guess !

Rabz · #19 February 15, 2008, 01:35 PM

This is why i love BC so much!
Amla lands in Dhaka, asks for Halal food and suddenly Bangladesh is not a muslim country!!

I might not be as wise as Socrates, and might not have travelled the world like some of you guys, but one think i can say with my eyes closed,

IF BANGLADESH IS NOT A MUSLIM COUNTRY, I DONT KNOW WHICH COUNTRY IS!!

Now how many restuarants in BD have halal food(by defination) is a whole new topic, but to call a country of 150 million where 83% is muslim a non-muslim country....wow!!

You dont need a law to state a fact thats widely out there.

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Originally Posted by Dawah
Finally, Bangladesh is not an Islamic country. It is a country where majority are Muslims or so called "Muslims by birth". !

What next? the girls should stay at home?

reyme · #20 February 15, 2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabz
What next? the girls should stay at home?

Where else? In the street? I mean guys stay at home too!

Kabir · #21 February 15, 2008, 03:03 PM

Reyme: off topic. But what is it in your avatar? Looks superb. Tell me the name of the place if you know it.

Nafi · #22 February 15, 2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawah
It might be breaking news for you folks. But, not all meat that you eat in BD are halal especially, the meat they serve in restaurants, fast food stores in the form of curry or meat burgers.

Most meat suppliers do not say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" when they slaughter the animal. Even the regular meat stores, most of the time do not say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" when they slaughter the animal.

This happens due to ignorance. Animal slaughterer thinks just saying "Bismillah" & "Takbir" on the 1st animal in the batch is enough for rest of them on the line and many meat slaughterers do not even know or care about "Bismillah" & "Takbir" during slaughter. I have been in Tabligh many times in rural areas. I have seen first hand, the Deeni understanding and desire to practice Islam among the meat store stuff is very poor. Right in front of meat store is the Masjid. But, even for Jummah, they won't close their stores to go pray Jummah. If these so call "Muslim" meat stores stuff does not even care about saying their Jummah salat right in front of their store, how do we expect them to take the time to say "Bismillah" & "Takbir" before slaughtering the animal?

Finally, Bangladesh is not an Islamic country. It is a country where majority are Muslims or so called "Muslims by birth". It is fair that Hashim Amla would ask for halal food, and not hope every food is halal, MashaAllah!

You annoy me

Alien · #23 February 16, 2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Surfer
I am afraid my knowledge of either Islam or Bangladeshi politics is not very strong, but can someone explain that a little more? I am sorry if its the wrong place, but I am curious after reading that.

According to him, most Muslims in Bangladesh are not practising Muslims hence they are just "Muslim by birth". In other words they don't follow the rites properly and have spend little time on their religion.

When u slaughter a cow or chicken, you say "Bismillah and Allahu Akbar". Part of the requirement for Halal slaughter of the animal. Rule is they should say it for every animal they slaughter but according to him, some of these butchers are negliegent do so for once for every batch.

Alien · #24 February 16, 2008, 08:50 AM

To Dawah:

There is no way for me to check whether the guy said "Bismillah" for that specific animal I am eating. After slaughtering the animals, the pieces are mixed up usually and it's impossible to say which one he said "Bismillah" and for which ones he didn't.

More importantly butchers won't admit that they didn't say it if they did slaughter without saying "Bismillah".

Now, I don't like watching animals getting slaughtered, and If I do I feel sorry for the cow/chicken/lamb when I eat the meat. Thats why I avoided "Korbanir Gosh" before. But that's beside the point.

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Finally, Bangladesh is not an Islamic country. It is a country where majority are Muslims or so called "Muslims by birth".

If you are such a good believer than I am sure you believe in the Day of Judgement. Why not let Him judge? I have been to Saudi Arabia for Hajj & Umrah. And I have seen first hand how low and corrupt some of these Saudis can get. If you want full account (and I got plenty of them) feel free to PM me.

And these are supposed to be your ideal Muslims who follow Sharia undiluted.

This is 21st century and entire Muslim world is in disarray. Get used to it.

Anher · #25 February 16, 2008, 11:16 AM

Amla arrived with a bunch of Southafrican players and officials who doesnt care about halal or haram food. Isn't it safe to ask? or let the restaurent know he is only SA player who care and eat halal food or does evereyone in bangladesh know Amla is a very careful muslim who even refused to wear shirts emblazoned with Castle Lager logos on his Test debut in 2004.