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View Poll Results: Who is the real deal?
Sabbir Rahman 6 21.43%
Soumya Sarkar 16 57.14%
None 6 21.43%
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Old April 11, 2017, 03:15 PM
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Default Sabbir Vs. Soumya: Who is the real Deal?

The player that genuinely will take Bangladesh forward?

Every team has 1-2 genuine quality (World Class) players that they often rely on. Do you think one of them can take this role in the future? if so who is the likeliest?

Also, what is your take on how many runs each will score in ODI/T20/Test?

My personal favourite is Soumya Sarkar.

I think he will average 40+ in ODI, T20 and test end of his career.

10,000 runs in ODI and Test? its possible, I think he can achieve it.

Not to sure about Sabbir? what do you guys think?
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I'll take Soumya's medium pace over Sabbir's leg-spinners any day.
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Old April 11, 2017, 04:19 PM
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Why can't both?
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Why can't both?
That's what we fans want. But opinion differs format by format.

Batsman quality? hunger for runs? desire to improve? so many things...

Does both of them have this? etc... other factors also..

The poll wants to know who is the likeliest to succeed, taking all those factors into account.
That's why both option avoided.
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Old April 11, 2017, 04:29 PM
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Overall Sarkar is better

Sabbir in t20
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Old April 11, 2017, 06:09 PM
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Ah, both are so good for the Bangladeshi cricket team it is crazy.
On one hand you have the elegance and the timing of Sarkar, mind you he can hit if he wants to, he hits the biggest sixes of Bangladesh when he charges the bowlers. But what stands out for Sarkar is how effortless he is.

On the other you have the grit and steel from Sabbir, he is the calmest batsman from the Bangladeshi team if you ask me but the way he attacks every ball surely sets the opposition in panic mode. Most of the opposition fans like Sabbir as the best batsman from bangladesh for this very reason. He is also one of our main weapon in LOIs, for offspinners he is a god. He can attack them at will.

If I had to choose one, I will go with Sabbir over Sarkar because Sabbir on his day can defeat any opposition by his own, Sarkar can do that too and we have seen it too but Sabbir is a different level. One level up from Sarkar basically.

Fielding wise both are on the same level, bowling wise I will say both are again on the same level. Batting wise is where there is a slight difference.
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Sabbir has yet to crack an ODI ton.
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Sabbir- hardest hitter of the cricket ball

Soumya- sweetest/cleanest Hitter of the cricket ball. Imrul Kayes comes second in this list.
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Old April 11, 2017, 09:23 PM
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Funny-both have the same issue. They get good starts, then dont place value on their wickets. If these guys get going, Tigers will be able to compete with any team in the world.
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As of now, Soumya has more feats than Sabbir
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Fans going gaga over sabbir who is yet to score a ton in any format. He bats at 3 in LOI, still to get a 100. In t20 Sabbir is better suited and should be better than Soumya. But, Sarkar is defo ahead in ODI and TEST ATM!
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Old April 12, 2017, 04:17 AM
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Ah, both are so good for the Bangladeshi cricket team it is crazy.
On one hand you have the elegance and the timing of Sarkar, mind you he can hit if he wants to, he hits the biggest sixes of Bangladesh when he charges the bowlers. But what stands out for Sarkar is how effortless he is.

On the other you have the grit and steel from Sabbir, he is the calmest batsman from the Bangladeshi team if you ask me but the way he attacks every ball surely sets the opposition in panic mode. Most of the opposition fans like Sabbir as the best batsman from bangladesh for this very reason. He is also one of our main weapon in LOIs, for offspinners he is a god. He can attack them at will.

If I had to choose one, I will go with Sabbir over Sarkar because Sabbir on his day can defeat any opposition by his own, Sarkar can do that too and we have seen it too but Sabbir is a different level. One level up from Sarkar basically.

Fielding wise both are on the same level, bowling wise I will say both are again on the same level. Batting wise is where there is a slight difference.
Got no issue with you picking sabbir overall but

Sabbir on his day can defeat any opposition by his own, Sarkar can do that too and we have seen it too but Sabbir is a different level.

Only person who's shown this ability is Sarkar, apart from that one innings vs Sri Lanka in T20s he's never shown the ability to do it, Sarkar has few times.
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Yeah I am yet to see Sabbir take the game away from the opposition in ODIs. Needs to put value on his wicket considering the position he comes to bat in.

So for me it's Sarkar. Still remember how he demolished Pakistan single-handedly.
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Old April 12, 2017, 08:33 AM
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BDFlag Sabbir & Soumya

If you're looking for a Kohli or Smith in these two, I don't think either of them has it. Let alone the legends (Sachin, Sanga, Ponting, Kalis, Lara etc.).

Sabbir:
One word: he is flamboyant. Although he shows good technique in defense, his shot selections aren't that great. He is perhaps the hardest hitter of BD team and can cross-bat any bowler for a six. Thus he suits shorter formats. But his test performance will depend on how he manages himself in future. Once he starts getting test/ODI centuries, he may change and become more hungry for runs.

Soumya:
He is a free-flowing batsman with sweet timing. His biggest drawback is lack of footwork which often causes problems playing spin. However, he is comparatively apt in playing longer innings and somewhat consistent maintaining a healthy average and an outstanding S/R in all formats.

At present, we expect Sabbir to get a 50 and Soumya to score 70+ runs. That tells you a story of what they have done so far. While the latter proved to be little more reliable with little chance of improving his technique; I believe Sabbir has more potential to be a terrific batsman. But it's mostly up to him.

All in all, Soumya, Sabbir, Mosa, Mehedi, Taskin and Fizz are our future. I hope that they take this opportunity with good sense of responsibility, work hard on improving themselves, mature quickly, stay fit and don't get carried away.

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shumaiya sharkar (শুমাইয়া সরকার) as per the accent of Nannu.
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Sabbir needs to step up in DPL! show us he can score big and be consistent.

I hope his team play him at no.3 or at least the top order.
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shumaiya sharkar (শুমাইয়া সরকার) as per the accent of Nannu.
Add Athar Ali Khan to that club. Not only his English is poor but his Bangla, too.

On topic: In terms of sheer potential and shots around the park Sabbir just edges Soumya in my view. But, so far Soumya has been the performer and Sabbir the under-performer. Lets hope both of their careers really take off. It will be a sight to hold watching them bat together -when they get going.
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At this point of their career, both are real deal.
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I hope you are right. If both become real deal.. man we will be strong..

Along with Fizz and Mehedi in bowling... if they truly become world class... we have good future.
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Soumya is way more proven than Sabbir at this point. I would however leave Sabbir at 3 atm to not change the team dynamics too much ahead of Champions Trophy.
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Soumya actually brought me to tears when he made that 127 vs Pakistan....



Sabbir almost brought me to tears when he was left stranded in the 1st test against England...

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IMO still early days before one can really say. I think if both act professionally and work on their game they could both be the real deal in their own right.
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sabbir`s room of potential is enormous, were as Souyma`s looks large
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Sabbir's range is like 40-60
Soumya's range is like 50-80s

Both needs to learn to convert specially Sabbir
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Sabbir's range is like 40-60
Soumya's range is like 50-80s

Both needs to learn to convert specially Sabbir
... and they will....just be patient.


There was a time when most of our batsman used to struggle against quality bowling, they looked over matched or under prepared.

But with young players like Sabbir, SS, Mosaddek... they play so comfortably ... they rarely looked over matched. That is a big difference between new players of fews years back and new players of today. They have all the physical talent that they need, its a matter of time for them to mentally mature over time.
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