**** The Mohammed Ashraful Thread **** - Page 126

playmaker · #**3126** March 28, 2012, 05:24 AM

ash got chance for CCC Blackshire according to FB

Is it true? if it is, at least our players are getting some matches. And Ash is usefeul, as a good domestic performer for a no name team

Rabz · #**3127** March 28, 2012, 09:24 AM

^^ I've seen the news on FB too.
Any source to varify ??

Habib · #**3128** March 28, 2012, 10:36 AM

^Is this another club like Rainhill?

playmaker · #**3129** March 28, 2012, 10:45 AM

the name is called blackshire, ive seen no other news :p

*AsifTheManRahman* · #**3130** March 28, 2012, 10:49 AM

At least Rainhill has a website, couldn't find anything on Blackshire.

lamisa · #**3131** March 28, 2012, 11:47 AM

as long as he is still playing...

Rifat · #**3132** March 28, 2012, 11:47 AM

Welcome back, Sir Ashraful to forum discussion

Murad · #**3133** March 28, 2012, 01:09 PM

After the NCL final there is no domestic cricket untill August/September. So it's good for him and his future to keep playing and stay fit.

Our players need to find good agents from West.

TIKBoss · #**3134** March 28, 2012, 01:49 PM

hope they keep him, he can play for papua new guinea

Rifat · #**3135** March 28, 2012, 01:52 PM

If i am not mistaken, He had a decent BPL outing...was valuable to Dhaka Gladiators...I think he should be considered for World Cup T20 championship.

*AsifTheManRahman* · #**3136** March 28, 2012, 02:01 PM

I would definitely pick him in my T20 XI for the WC. One-down might be the ideal position for him.

Ajfar · #**3137** March 28, 2012, 03:12 PM

^ That's a good idea, but the only problem is, If he has one good innings in T20, it might lead to his sudden return in ODI and Test because our selectors will fall in love with him all over again. I hope I'm wrong.

TIKBoss · #**3138** March 28, 2012, 04:39 PM

ok, pick him for t20 wc. Even though it's almost guaranteed he will fail. But don't let him near odi or test team if he scores one fluke 50 in t20.. treat each format separately.

Ajfar · #**3139** March 28, 2012, 05:41 PM

http://seudolab.com/2012/03/29/ashra...d-bangladeshi/

I came across this link in google, but is this even a real website? I feel like some random dude wrote this up.

TIKBoss · #**3140** March 28, 2012, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajfar
http://seudolab.com/2012/03/29/ashra...d-bangladeshi/

I came across this link in google, but is this even a real website? I feel like some random dude wrote this up.

it looks like amateur work.. nothing reliable

Gowza · #**3141** March 28, 2012, 08:03 PM

it might seem harsh but i wouldn't pick ash for any squads not even t20. the reason being is his influence. the team has had a much better attitude and has been performing much better with him out of the team and even moreso when he's completely out of the squad. obviously he had a very big impact/influence on a lot of players which now they're moving on from and going forward positively.

TIKBoss · #**3142** March 28, 2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gowza
it might seem harsh but i wouldn't pick ash for any squads not even t20. the reason being is his influence. the team has had a much better attitude and has been performing much better with him out of the team and even moreso when he's completely out of the squad. obviously he had a very big impact/influence on a lot of players which now they're moving on from and going forward positively.

lol, u r now ash "hater" for making these comments.

Fazal · #**3143** March 28, 2012, 08:58 PM

[quot]it might seem harsh but i wouldn't pick ash for any squads not even t20. the reason being is his influence. the team has had a much better attitude and has been performing much better with him out of the team and even moreso when he's completely out of the squad. obviously he had a very big impact/influence on a lot of players which now they're moving on from and going forward positively.[/quote]

Its nice to see that some people are now joining what I was saying last few years... that the negative effect of Ashraful in team chemistry. We don't know whats goes on inside the locker room, but the ICL saga and his role with his team mates (i.e. back stabbing) was an eye opener. Plus relationship (or lack of it) with regular performers like Sakib and Tamim was another warning sign.

Can we trust our future players like Amanul and Nasir mingle too much with Ashraful? If so, what will be the impact on them (positive or negative) that is something to think about.

But I am enjoying it...because from now on, I don't have to raise those issues again and again all by myself.

*AsifTheManRahman* · #**3144** March 29, 2012, 07:16 AM

I agree, he should be left out of the ODI and Test teams until he demonstrates consistency in those two formats in domestic cricket.

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zsayeed · #**3145** March 29, 2012, 11:12 AM

What if he shows consistency as a good number 6 or 7 performance wise? And take wickets as well.
I think he should play down in DPL.

*AsifTheManRahman* · #**3146** March 29, 2012, 11:24 AM

We'll have to see who we can replace at #6/#7 to accommodate him then. At any given time, these spots are taken by two of Mushfiq, Riyad and Nasir. Riyad, for all his deficiencies, has still performed much better than Ash in recent times. Riyad's stats in the last twelve months:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

Only a couple of 50's, but he's managed to remain n/o and bulk up that average with a decent SR. I personally think we'll gain more if the coach works with Riyad to tweak his ability to hit big instead of going with Ashraful, who has failed miserably in international cricket recently and has done nothing of note in the DPL.

And he won't replace either Mushfiq or Nasir, so no point going there.

For now, we should use him for what he seems to do best - give us some quick 30-50 runs batting in the top/middle order in T20's. If he indeed isn't a good team man/bad for team morale as some are claiming here (I don't know, I'm not an insider), then he shouldn't be picked, but strictly based on his BPL and T20I performances, I think he deserves a chance in the shortest format and the shortest format only.

*AsifTheManRahman* · #**3147** March 29, 2012, 11:26 AM

And yes, guys like Anamul would probably be better off listening to Tamim/Shakib. I face-palmed when Anamul said he was trying to learn from Ashraful.

Night_wolf · #**3148** March 29, 2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
And yes, guys like Anamul would probably be better off listening to Tamim/Shakib. I face-palmed when Anamul said he was trying to learn from Ashraful.

nothing wrong if he can get the positives out of ash...the guy played 200+ matches for BD, thats experience

Ajfar · #**3149** March 29, 2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by zsayeed
What if he shows consistency as a good number 6 or 7 performance wise? And take wickets as well.
I think he should play down in DPL.

Why would we want him in 6/7? Did Nasir or Mushy did a bad job lower down the order recently? We always have a tendency to make the entire team adjust to player, shouldn't it be the other way around? The player should come in and adjust in whatever position the teams needs him at?

*AsifTheManRahman* · #**3150** March 29, 2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Night_wolf
nothing wrong if he can get the positives out of ash...the guy played 200+ matches for BD, thats experience

It's experience that doesn't count much because it hasn't amounted to much in terms of results. Besides, Ashraful doesn't seem to have much of a winner's mentality, which isn't ideal for a mentor.

Last time someone credited Ashraful for his input, he ended up giving away 17 runs in the last over of an Asia Cup final, costing us the game.