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Old August 31, 2012, 06:41 AM
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Old August 31, 2012, 09:06 AM
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Sorry, if I overstated. I just wanted people to read it. Did you like it?
Welcome to BC bhai. I actually liked your article. I thought it was well written and had a lot of truth in it. As I've said before, due to the lack of quality top order batsmen we have to live with Ash for a bit longer until we find better top order batsmen. Right now we only have Anamul out of the top order youngsters thats ready. Sarkar and Asif seem to have a long ways to before they're ready for the international level. Liton Das has a good chance but has a long ways go before he's ready. So for now we have to deal with the likes of Ash, Junaid, and Imrul and in the mean time slowly work Anamul in and give him time.
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Old August 31, 2012, 02:46 PM
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A superb article about Ash

http://banglacric.com/why-must-stop-...ning-ashraful/
delusional article, Ashraful averages less than some tailenders in both formats. That should tell us all we need to know, before he used to play one "eid innings" a year, now it's become a "leap year innings" once every 4 years.
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Old August 31, 2012, 03:18 PM
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And if you are judging some one by looking at the stats that tells me you never played cricket in your life.
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Old August 31, 2012, 03:45 PM
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Welcome to BC bhai. I actually liked your article. I thought it was well written and had a lot of truth in it. As I've said before, due to the lack of quality top order batsmen we have to live with Ash for a bit longer until we find better top order batsmen. Right now we only have Anamul out of the top order youngsters thats ready. Sarkar and Asif seem to have a long ways to before they're ready for the international level. Liton Das has a good chance but has a long ways go before he's ready. So for now we have to deal with the likes of Ash, Junaid, and Imrul and in the mean time slowly work Anamul in and give him time.
problem is ash isn't even what he use to be, he doesn't have that ability to play that swashbuckling match winning innings these days, never thought i'd say this (because i expected ash o improve and become mush more consistent) but i wish we could have the ash of old back. the old ash would be more useful than the current ash.
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Old August 31, 2012, 03:58 PM
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Welcome to BC bhai. I actually liked your article. I thought it was well written and had a lot of truth in it. As I've said before, due to the lack of quality top order batsmen we have to live with Ash for a bit longer until we find better top order batsmen. Right now we only have Anamul out of the top order youngsters thats ready. Sarkar and Asif seem to have a long ways to before they're ready for the international level. Liton Das has a good chance but has a long ways go before he's ready. So for now we have to deal with the likes of Ash, Junaid, and Imrul and in the mean time slowly work Anamul in and give him time.

Thanks for your comment. I beleive Mominul is also sort of ready to put his feet on the shoes as he did very well in Shafi Darashah Tournament and in the past few years. Litton is too slow like Javed Omar. Asif needs two more years and Soumya needs to achieve consistency.
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Old August 31, 2012, 04:11 PM
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problem is ash isn't even what he use to be, he doesn't have that ability to play that swashbuckling match winning innings these days, never thought i'd say this (because i expected ash o improve and become mush more consistent) but i wish we could have the ash of old back. the old ash would be more useful than the current ash.
It seems he's batting too cautiously which is what the problem is. He needs to just play his natural game which is to play his shots. Don't worry about being "responsible" because that's not his game.
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Old August 31, 2012, 04:19 PM
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Thanks for your comment. I beleive Mominul is also sort of ready to put his feet on the shoes as he did very well in Shafi Darashah Tournament and in the past few years. Litton is too slow like Javed Omar. Asif needs two more years and Soumya needs to achieve consistency.
Agree that Mominul seems ready. He should be brought in as the backup middle order batsman in case anyone gets injured.

True Liton's slow but I liked how he was consistent throughout the tournament. He's still very young as he's only 17. He does need to improve his rotation of the strike, and his shot making ability if he wants to ever become a prospect for the national team. I agree with you about Asif and Sarkar.
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Old August 31, 2012, 05:16 PM
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It seems he's batting too cautiously which is what the problem is. He needs to just play his natural game which is to play his shots. Don't worry about being "responsible" because that's not his game.
yes i think that's the only way he's going to be of any value to the national team at this point. it would be nice if he could be responsible and change gears being able to play an attacking aggressive innings or a slower gritty innings but i don't think he'll ever develop to that so best thing is for him to go back to how he was before and we'll get some occassional great performances from him while he gradually gets phased out as players like anamul, mominul and shuvagata develop.
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Old August 31, 2012, 06:38 PM
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we cant expect Ashraful to be consistent and cautious at one time and then play a smash buckling innings the next because face it, it wont work. He is too inconsistent when he plays smash buckling innings. And when he plays cautiously he bats too slow. So theres some things in life which wont come together. And for Ashraful its consistent and smash buckling.
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Old August 31, 2012, 07:49 PM
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Even when he bats slow he's not consistent and gets out to a bad shot, otherwise he'd be a good test match player but he isn't, that's why I've concluded he'll be most valuable trying to be swashbuckling all the time because that's how je's been most successful in his career.
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Old August 31, 2012, 08:46 PM
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that's why I've concluded he'll be most valuable trying to be swashbuckling all the time because that's how je's been most successful in his career.
LOL you crack me up
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Old August 31, 2012, 09:53 PM
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problem is ash isn't even what he use to be, he doesn't have that ability to play that swashbuckling match winning innings these days, never thought i'd say this (because i expected ash o improve and become mush more consistent) but i wish we could have the ash of old back. the old ash would be more useful than the current ash.
the old ash is gone..the new ash even sucks more than the old one
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^ here is a crazy idea, maybe there is no such thing as Old Ashraful & New Ashraful. Maybe it's always been just regular Ashraful being his regular self. You can use terms old and new when there is a drastic difference between going from old to new. I'm no stat expert but I think if we break down Ash's stat's per year/season wise we wouldn't find much of a difference, but I could be wrong too.
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Old August 31, 2012, 11:45 PM
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^ here is a crazy idea, maybe there is no such thing as Old Ashraful & New Ashraful. Maybe it's always been just regular Ashraful being his regular self. You can use terms old and new when there is a drastic difference between going from old to new. I'm no stat expert but I think if we break down Ash's stat's per year/season wise we wouldn't find much of a difference, but I could be wrong too.
well consistency wise like his average might be similar but i always thought earlier in his career he played with a much higher striker rate, whereas nowadays even if he does attack his strike rate is lower than it use to be....
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well consistency wise like his average might be similar but i always thought earlier in his career he played with a much higher striker rate, whereas nowadays even if he does attack his strike rate is lower than it use to be....
Yep, that's exactly what the difference is. His tentative approach of late is an expression of the fear, anxiety and doubt brought upon by his inability to deal with everyone's high expectations including those of his own. The remarkably consistent lack of intelligence suggested by the overwhelming majority of his dismissals over the past 12 years creates further dysfunction. Other than that, he has been the same old fool since debut.

I don't think our expectations are too high after all this time. Instead, I now think of them as false and nothing but a wistful projection of what we wish to be. That projection, at least when it comes to Mohammad Ashraful Motin, is simply too far removed from any probable reality. At least that should be obvious by now.

That being said, I want him to do well whenever in national colors because I want us to do well.
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Would like to see him play at least an eid innings because I want the tigers to win
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^^ What's so "facepalming" about that pic ??
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I think this thred should be merged with "Awakened" thred.
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I was alive when sir Mohammad ashraful failed to make the 22 man Preliminary Squad for a test match/series

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Old November 5, 2012, 09:00 AM
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Wait a minute. This thread.didn't have a single post since September 8th??? How is that even possible? What happened to your love for Ash guys? I am stunned
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Its really funny to see Ash still complains he didnt get enough chances....lol re lol
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