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Old April 8, 2008, 08:53 AM
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Default Siddons - is he smart enough to be a head coach?

What kind of moron is he to pick a team with only two specialist bowlers (Mashrafe & Razzak)? Siddons is probably a good batting coach, but so far he is proving himself too poor of a strategician when it comes to fielding. I don't think you can be the head coach of an international team with this kind of limited mindset.

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Old April 8, 2008, 09:02 AM
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actually in the field the captain is all.

and i think about the team selection the coach is not all.

anyway i hope next match the team managemenet which includes SIDDONS should comeout ewith the tam with the perfect balance
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Old April 8, 2008, 09:05 AM
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I continue to be perplexed with this new bowling strategy. I have to fault Siddons on this. I don't see how it will work out. We will be always chasing 300+. Team batting rules will have to go out the window then. He should have known that these part timers will be taken to task by Pakistanis.
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What kind of moron is he to pick a team with only two specialist bowlers (Mashrafe & Razzak)? Siddons is probably a good batting coach, but so far he is proving himself too poor of a strategician when it comes to fielding. I don't think you can be the head coach of an international team this kind of limited mindset.
man he's a bulls*it kind coach. we had this match under control upto 20 overs. He's who made us lost the control... we need rajib.
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Old April 8, 2008, 09:08 AM
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Rafiques retirement is costing us.... Farhad can be good asset as, but not as an opening bowler....
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Old April 8, 2008, 09:09 AM
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A captain can do very little when he is given such limited options like Ash was given today. It's the sole responsibility of the coach to make a strategy for the bowling side and pick bowlers according to it. Instead of that Siddons is staking the team with bit-n-piece allrounders, and making our bowling side even worse than what Zimbabwe has. Even our selectors were not moron enough to make this kind of blunder before Siddons came along.
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Siddons is a good batting coach but not sure he is good to be a head coach or not.
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Old April 8, 2008, 09:11 AM
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we just can't blame siddons. ash played a big part in team selection too.
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i blame the think tank, whether it be siddons, ash, cheif selector, or combo of all 3...

to leave out rasel is akin to leaving out tamim or aftab.
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Old April 8, 2008, 09:17 AM
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No I guess not. Some of the experts of this forum is much much more Smarter than Siddon I guess. No?

I already seen the symtom of that smartness reading so many expert opinions why Rasel should be in the team instead of Farhad (one of the few performer in recent games) and so forth. Not that I dislike Rasel....but I was thinking if it need to happen ... it should happen replacing mahmudullah or at the cost of another specialized batsman.
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we just can't blame siddons. ash played a big part in team selection too.
Assuming you are right, how is Siddons allowing this kind of moronic act ? Is he with Bangladesh team to just to sit in the dressing room, make some media appearances, and collect his fat checks ?
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It's not the right time to judge Siddons' capacity as Head Coach yet. If he can see options for the first year and then get his set 14 players for WC 2011 - that'd be good enough, I think.
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What a stupid Thread...For u "BANGLADESH FAN" No coach is good enough to be head coach...Perhaps Ur self should apply for the coach's position..He was good enough to be Austrailas batting coach and senior coach at famous centre of Excellence in Aus, but for BD no one is good! Excuses after excuses and I am sick of you half-cooked fans trying to show your "expartise" ..blame the standards of players in BD team, then look at management, then look at the structure...it wasn't long a go all of u praising Siddons but when BD struggles, then we look for a scape goat, in this case the coach .. For your info, Siddons has a head coach qualification a Level 3 one...and worked with the best...and frankly BD are good at ruining a respected coaches career!!
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Old April 8, 2008, 09:27 AM
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.. For your info, Siddons has a head coach qualification a Level 3 one...and worked with the best...and frankly BD are good at ruining a respected coaches career!!
Exactly !!!
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Old April 8, 2008, 09:34 AM
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No I guess not. Some of the experts of this forum is much much more Smarter than Siddon I guess. No?

I already seen the symtom of that smartness reading so many expert opinions why Rasel should be in the team instead of Farhad (one of the few performer in recent games) and so forth. Not that I dislike Rasel....but I was thinking if it need to happen ... it should happen replacing mahmudullah or at the cost of another specialized batsman.
Fazal,
I liked most of your opinions but in this you are completly wrong. nobody (bar a few) claimed that Rasel should be in the team in place of Farhad. All most all of us was shoutin for 3/4 pace attack thus accomodating Farhad. Posters are after Riyad and Raqib.
Regarding the issue; I think Siddons should be send to where he belong; that is support stuff. I am disgusted with Siddons quotes and decesions. Bring back Dave.
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Sayem, Siddons in his coaching career (before coming to BD) worked as a specialized batting coach - a role that is vastly different from being the head coach of a team.

Also, yes, our team sucks, we may have lost this match anyway, still there is no excuse for going in a match with such a weak bowling attack when you have better bowlers available to you.
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What a stupid Thread...For u "BANGLADESH FAN" No coach is good enough to be head coach...Perhaps Ur self should apply for the coach's position..He was good enough to be Austrailas batting coach and senior coach at famous centre of Excellence in Aus, but for BD no one is good! Excuses after excuses and I am sick of you half-cooked fans trying to show your "expartise" ..blame the standards of players in BD team, then look at management, then look at the structure...it wasn't long a go all of u praising Siddons but when BD struggles, then we look for a scape goat, in this case the coach .. For your info, Siddons has a head coach qualification a Level 3 one...and worked with the best...and frankly BD are good at ruining a respected coaches career!!
i repeat, exactly
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and frankly BD are good at ruining a respected coaches career!!

Such as?
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For your info, Siddons has a head coach qualification a Level 3 one...and worked with the best...and frankly BD are good at ruining a respected coaches career!!
for your info McClaren UEFA pro license; the highest one could archive in football managing and Fergusson does not hold one. Any day I would choose SAF over McLaren. Certificate does not buy you wisdom.
BD did not ruin Whatmore career BTW
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Sayem, Siddons in his coaching career (before coming to BD) worked as a specialized batting coach - a role that is vastly different from being the head coach of a team.

Also, yes, our team sucks, we may have lost this match anyway, still there is no excuse for going in a match with such a weak bowling attack when you have better bowlers available to you.
Ok, Give me one coaches name who started with being head coach all his career....So ...please use common sense and logic a bit more..
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Old April 8, 2008, 09:44 AM
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for your info McClaren UEFA pro license; the highest one could archive in football managing and Fergusson does not hold one. Any day I would choose SAF over McLaren. Certificate does not buy you wisdom.
BD did not ruin Whatmore career BTW
They couldn't cos he has proved him self with sri lanka so BD was very cautious, look at the history...even then whatmore had some torid times with bd fan and media...its our nature to look for scapegoats..and we will never change
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Old April 8, 2008, 09:45 AM
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Ok, Give me one coaches name who started with being head coach all his career....So ...please use common sense and logic a bit more..
I did not claim a specialized coach can't turn out to be a good head coach. But Siddons is apparently not the right kind.
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I liked most of your opinions but in this you are completly wrong. nobody (bar a few) claimed that Rasel should be in the team in place of Farhad.
Sorry, after I re-read your message (in other thread) I realized you are not asking Rasel instead if Farhad. But other are ( in other threads). Just recently there was a poll and Farhad was not in the team of 11. Thay are seeing Farhad is taking Rasel's spot, whic is not true. Farhad, Sakib and Mahmudulla are three all rounder slots. Out of three Mahmudulla's position is weak. They should be replaced by all rounders. Rasel can come instead of one of the batsman as they are occuping one the bowler slots. So if people wants Rasel it should be in place of Rakibul/Ashraful/Aftab/Mashrafe/Razzak not instead of Tamim/SN/Farhad/Sakib/mahmuduallh.
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Dear sayem
I could not remember we ever bashed DW for his management or team play. He was bashed for his greed; for his eagerness to join Indian team. DW was WC winner but his fame improved when a no hoper team Bd went to 2nd round of WC from 'Group of Death'. I have not yet lose hope with Siddons but my instinct is telling me that he would another Trevor Chappel - another aussi with level 3 certificate.
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Actually it is Riyad who cost us the match, I dare to say none on this forum were asking ( before the match ) to drop Riyad and bring another specialist bowler. Rather I say we were fooled by Riyad performance in previous game, it just didnt work against PAK.

Now we learnt the lesson ... we need another pure bowler in the team against TOP any team.
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