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April 11, 2008, 04:17 PM
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Great piece on Young Bangladesh team from - Osman Samiuddin
Reality bites
Osman Samiuddin at the Iqbal Stadium
April 11, 2008
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Bangladesh have had a tough tour to Pakistan so far, but their time will come, believes coach Jamie Siddons © AFP
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It probably helps if you are coaching Bangladesh to be both grimly realistic and cautiously optimistic. You must accept that defeat will, at present, mostly be inevitable, but you must also be able to draw from it some solace, something to hold on to. Luckily for Bangladesh, Jamie Siddons is able to do both.
Defeat by seven wickets in Faisalabad, where they were defending a defendable, rain-affected target could easily be put aside as yet another dispiriting loss. Shoaib Malik, the Pakistan captain, later argued it wasn't an easy win, but you suspect he said it to please himself more than anything else, for Pakistan were never really pushed at any stage of the game.
But for Siddons, there was something to take from Faisalabad. This was, as he pointed out, the second-highest score Bangladesh had ever made against Pakistan. And no, it wasn't difficult to lift his side's spirits after another loss. "I don't find it hard at all to keep them up," he said. "There were things out there that I saw which were very exciting. We got some positives out of today's game. Tamim Iqbal's batting was one and I thought Mahmudullah Riyad played a fantastic knock towards the end."
Both were indeed accomplished hands, particularly Tamim's. He has a pleasant, erect left-handedness about him, which was most evident in a couple of punches to deliveries on the up through extra cover early in his innings. On both occasions the bowler was Umar Gul, who may be rusty currently, but is never a slouch. Tamim's on-side game is similarly easy on the eye, the on-drive off Rao Iftikhar Anjum the one to note, and a steady clip through midwicket later not to be overlooked.
But then most of Bangladesh's batsmen have the shots. It is the nous that is absent, of knowing when to attack, when to settle, who to attack, who to see off. At just the wrong moment, to just the wrong shot, Tamim gave it up; he went for 60, but it should have been and Bangladesh will hope in years to come, will often be much more. At least a hint of that batting sense came in Mahmudullah's maiden fifty towards the end of the innings, a smart knock, built on angles, percentages and good running.
A couple more contributions from the top order would have been handy, as coach and captain both acknowledged. Mohammad Ashraful, who perished for 22, probably referred to himself as much as Tamim when he said the top-order batsmen got out at the wrong time.
But these reality checks help ensure that Siddons doesn't get carried away, which is just as well, because hard days will continue to come for now. "My job is to get guys to perform internationally and in Tamim and Riyad there are two guys who can do that, so that is exciting for me to see. If you didn't see anything exciting out there in Bangladesh's performance then your cricket sense isn't great."
Though it would add some spice to the series, Siddons has recognised all along that a win over Pakistan would mainly be the result of something going very wrong in the home camp. Results, he stressed before the series began, were not as important as progress. "Most sides find it tough to win out here[ in Pakistan]. Pakistan are fifth in the rankings and we're ninth and that is a big gap. But we have seen some positives out there today and are happy with that.
"We are a long way away from where we want to be. We have got to be patient. We're probably two-three years away from being the side we need to be. But this competition is great experience for our players."
In time it will show.
Osman Samiuddin is Pakistan editor of Cricinfo
Read the lines in bold for those who opens thread and suggests that Bangladesh should stop playing cricket...
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April 11, 2008, 04:28 PM
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Tamim Iqbal took charge after Bangladesh decided to bat first on a flat pitch
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1. Shahadat Hossain Bangladesh v Zimbabwe ( Harare,02/08/2006) [TV Mufambisi c K. Mashud; E Chigumbura lbw; P Utseya c K. Mashud] 2. Alok Kapali Bangladesh v Pakistan ( Peshawar, 27,28,29,30 August 2003) [S Ahmed c M Mortaza; D Kaneria lbw; U Gul lbw]
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April 11, 2008, 04:28 PM
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Aftab Ahmed didn't last very long as he was trapped lbw to Umar Gul, who picked up his 50th ODI wicket
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April 11, 2008, 04:29 PM
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Mohammad Ashraful scored a cameo 22 off 25 balls and became the highest run-getter in ODIs for Bangladesh
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April 11, 2008, 04:30 PM
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Yes, this Osman Samiuddin guys writes very nice. He somehow has some softness to Bangladesh.
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April 11, 2008, 04:32 PM
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Just when the going was good, Ashraful was sent back by Rao Iftikhar Anjum
Tamim meanwhile flourished and notched up a half-century
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April 11, 2008, 04:33 PM
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He failed to push on and his entertaining innings ended at 60
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April 11, 2008, 04:34 PM
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Mahmudullah led Bangladesh's lower-order revival with an unbeaten 58 and shared two 70-plus stands
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April 11, 2008, 04:34 PM
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Mashrafe Mortaza tried to push the scoring but was cleaned up by a Sohail Tanvir yorker
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April 11, 2008, 04:35 PM
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The fleet-footed Younis Khan was bowled by Farhad Reza for 13 but Pakistan were already well on track
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April 11, 2008, 11:07 PM
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Happy to hear that Siddons doesn't just talk about the negatives when he talks about our players and performances.
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April 11, 2008, 11:15 PM
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SIddons is a very realistic person and I think we as fans and the team should also be realistic and stop dreaming because the only way we would improve would be to work our rear off while being determined!!
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April 11, 2008, 11:26 PM
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thats a good article,siddons words were very true
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April 12, 2008, 07:52 AM
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i like some of the things siddons has said.. guess he doesn't just talk abt our negatives in front of the pres.. he talks abt the positives as well.... hopefully he'llchange bd cricket for the better..
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April 12, 2008, 06:09 PM
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I don't think coach said anything negetive, truth may be but ot negetive...
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April 12, 2008, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by akabir77
Tamim meanwhile flourished and notched up a half-century
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is gray nicolls endorsing him?
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April 12, 2008, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sovik
is gray nicolls endorsing him?
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why do u ask that? where do u see gray nicolls?
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April 12, 2008, 10:41 PM
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Well you can buy Gray Nicolls bats without getting endorsed - they pretty much grow in trees in Bangladesh as far as I remember.
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April 13, 2008, 12:04 AM
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Last time I checked B.A.S Vampires were pretty common and so was RNS Larsons and BDM.
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April 13, 2008, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by akabir77
why do u ask that? where do u see gray nicolls?
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He was holding GN powerbow bat
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April 14, 2008, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sovik
He was holding GN powerbow bat
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duhh i was looking at his shirt... 
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