Role of Mushfiq in the team!

[fiasnahk]

In tests mushfiq is fine at number 6, but in ODIs is he really? The biggest problem with our batting line up is that when we get to the batting powerplay we cant make the 50 runs we should be making. Mushfiq is good in a crisis, but with only mahmadullah to come, dont we need someone with the ability to hit the big sixes when needed at this position? Maybe im being too harsh because i have seen mushy hit some big ones before, but he often gets out just before the batting powerplay. He looks like a top order player to me but there is no room in there at the moment. I would have suggested swapping his and shakibs order, but with the bossmans form he needs as many overs as possible. What do you guys think?

[Rifat]

I thought he batted well given the circumstances...he just didn't carry on! he needs to get some fifties if he is to stay in the ODI team.

[Naimul_Hd]

Mushy is perfect for middle order. He plays spin better than any other. He has got good foot work. Moreover, he has got temperament to anchor his innings beside Shakib.

[al-Sagar]

he should play at no 4 .... .... thats the perfect for him. he is quite able to defende, push and nudge for singles, and play attacking shots to spinners over the top if needed

[Dilscoop]

I've been saying this for a long time, in ODI Mushy bats way too low. In tests it's fine, keepers bat at 7 or lower in tests any ways. But in ODI, he is just being wasted. Thanks a lot to our dumb coach, who can't compromise with the batting order.

He is a batsman with proper technic, someone who takes his time and can build an innings. He is best at 4, that's where he avg his highest. Like the thread starter said, he did hit some biggies, but that's just not his game. We need a slogger at 6, not Rahim.

Drop Roqibul's @$$, and let Rahim bat at 4. If 2 quick wickets fall, he is the right person to be there. Not someone negative like Roqi. He can rotate the strike, and rebuild the innings. Take Jahurul at 6, Mashrafe/old Naeem at 7. Jahurul can be the a slogger

In test, Rahim should go back down to 6, and Jahurul at 4. Jahurul was decent at 4 in UK, and as long as he is in the XI, he can even open if we need him to.

[Tigers_eye]

What is the job of real chatter box?

Annoy opposition while batting. Try to keep them from concentrating on their batting. Just making their time in the middle a little uncomfortable.

[wiseshah]

all of a sudden our ODI team is full of test player---mushy, riad, rokibul, imrul, junaid, shuvo

before ODI team was full of 20/20 player-----------ash, aftab, kapali, farhad reza,nazimuddin

we need combination of slow+ hard hitter--in ODI

[fiasnahk]

Originally Posted by wiseshah
all of a sudden our ODI team is full of test player---mushy, riad, rokibul, imrul, junaid, shuvo

Its pretty harsh to say that riad, junaid and shuvo are just test players. Junaid especially has done really well in keeping the momentum going after the openers leave, remember the asia cup a few months ago?

[M.H.Rubel]

Some of my fellows here want to play Mushy at #4 but my concern,is it wise to send an inconsistent player at #4?
Mushy is not a good WK thats for sure but probably we dont have any other better option.
I like Mushy as a batsman but he is very inconsistent in ODI its a major problem with him.In that case IMO Mushy shoulde bat at #7 after Riyad.As a batsman Riyad is better than Mushy in every format so why should he bat after Mushy?

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[Dilscoop]

^ Rahim is inconsistent because he is batting at the wrong spot. He batted at #4 before. If you check his record, all best scores came at top 4. Well he can't open, we already got too many openers. #3 is also taken by Siddique, and Siddique earned that spot for now. Siddique should bat at 3, that way, it's the same balance in ODI and test. Because Rahim won't bat at 3 (as I already said keepers dont bat high on tests). Also, Rahim failed at 3 many times, like many of our other batsmen. So #4 is the best option for him.

[Jadukor]

Originally Posted by fiasnahk
In tests mushfiq is fine at number 6, but in ODIs is he really? The biggest problem with our batting line up is that when we get to the batting powerplay we cant make the 50 runs we should be making. Mushfiq is good in a crisis, but with only mahmadullah to come, dont we need someone with the ability to hit the big sixes when needed at this position? Maybe im being too harsh because i have seen mushy hit some big ones before, but he often gets out just before the batting powerplay. He looks like a top order player to me but there is no room in there at the moment. I would have suggested swapping his and shakibs order, but with the bossmans form he needs as many overs as possible. What do you guys think?

completely agree with you... I think Mushfiq could bat in pos 3 or 4. He has good technique and temperament and batting up the order would allow him some time to settle and get a big one as well... At the death we need people with a bit more striking ability... people like Oram, Morkel, Yousuf Pathan, Pollard bat in those late order positions... our current lineup needs a player who can make those quick cameos... We have tried Naeem, Mahmudullah and Mushfiq to no effect... for attacking play we rely too much on Tamim and Shakib...and in T-20 our weakness was exposed in Worldcup

[Razi]

Mushy at no.4 and Jahu at no.6 would be perfect for us, but we need a good no.7, who can hit the ball really hard unlike Riad & Naeem, those morons don't even have the intent to hit. Maybe we can try out someone new like Shuvagoto or Nasir against Zim and see how it goes, and mind you both are matured enough player to play international cricket.

[Jadukor]

its unfortunate that Mashrafi's batting has really worsened in recent times... He could have been a valuable late order hitter for us... We are missing somebody like Md Rafique.. he was a great fighter..with not even an ounce of negativity in his mindset... he was someone who always had the balls to take the bowlers on regardless of his limited ability...

[Dilscoop]

^ No. 7 solution is in your avatar. Mashrafe Mortaza. If Rubel and Shafiul keeps this up and keeps improving, Mashrafe will have tough time returning into the playing XI as a opening bowler. And his bowling career is letting him down, making him injured and all. We all know how well he can hit. He saved us with his bat many times before. He certainly can work on it, and become a Med. Fast All Rouner. He could be our Lance Klusener, Jacob Oram, D Bravo, K Pollard.

He could be the power hitter, the slogger we are badly missing. I saw his pictures recently, working n his batting. Hope he takes it more seriously.

[BANFAN]

I saw some improvement in keeping this time. Less misses than before. But his batting really hasn't improved at all. Don't have any solution in mind, since I don't like the idea of teaching Zahurul learning wk and replacing him. If Zahurul takes wk seriously himself and can do a decent job, i don't mind. Dhiman, may be good in wk but his batting is worse than Mushy. Who else?

How can Mash be a replacement of Mushy? Besides batting we need wk skills to replace Mushy.

[Dilscoop]

I D K where you got the idea of Mash REPLACING Mushy, or Jahurul REPLACING Mushy. I don't think anyone in here said anything about REPLACING Mushy. Most of us are talking about pushing him up the order, PROMOTING him. How can a bowler replace a keeper?

My advice would be that you at least read one or two posts, as you seem lost

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by Dilscoop
I D K where you got the idea of Mash REPLACING Mushy, or Jahurul REPLACING Mushy. I don't think anyone in here said anything about REPLACING Mushy. Most of us are talking about pushing him up the order, PROMOTING him. How can a bowler replace a keeper?

My advice would be that you at least read one or two posts, as you seem lost

Thanks ... I read your one and that was like ... that.

That's way off topic ... Discussing batting order of the team or role of Mushy?

[Dilscoop]

No where does my post say that "Mashrafe should replace Rahim (as a keeper or as how ever you thought)

And off topic? No not really. He bats at 6, and his role becomes sort of a finisher, and sometimes he is having to slog and gets out cheaply, when he could be more useful at the top with a role of a proper batsman, a middle order. If he bats high up, his role will change.

Really, it shouldn't be that hard for you to understand this simple thing. Idk how you find it off topic

[Dilscoop]

You could even look at the 1st post, he is initially talking about his bating position.

[tanziraz]

promoting mushfiq in batting order is a good idea. But whats the solution of big hitting? can anyone tell me? Who could be the replacement? May be we can try ash at 7. He is capable of big hitting. Also, Pressure will be minimum at him as he will come to bat with 6or 7 overs left. So, he can go and thrash blindly without any hesitation.

[shakibrulz]

Can Dhiman slog? How is his batting?

Play Jahurul for mushy, there is no one else he can possibly replace in the lineup.

[firstlane]

Originally Posted by Razi
Mushy at no.4 and Jahu at no.6 would be perfect for us, but we need a good no.7, who can hit the ball really hard unlike Riad & Naeem, those morons don't even have the intent to hit. Maybe we can try out someone new like Shuvagoto or Nasir against Zim and see how it goes, and mind you both are matured enough player to play international cricket.

I always thought ashraful would be good for no.7 position. But Bangladeshi management think of him as Bradman -if he is in the team, he has to bat in the top order. They could learn from afridi's example. When he was failing continuously as an opener, he was moved down the order as a specialist slogger. He didn't do bad. He actually improved his bowling since then.

[shakibrulz]

Originally Posted by firstlane
I always thought ashraful would be good for no.7 position. But Bangladeshi management think of him as Bradman -if he is in the team, he has to bat in the top order. They could learn from afridi's example. When he was failing continuously as an opener, he was moved down the order as a specialist slogger. He didn't do bad. He actually improved his bowling since then.

Afridi is supposed to be their allrounder actually. And afridi is the last one you want to make a role model of - averaging an earth shattering 23 from almost 300 matches. I don't think any team will play such a mediocre player for 300 matches except Pakistan.

Afridi = Glorified Ashrafool.

[Jadukor]

I think we have plenty of Options at no. 7... we can try aftab,ashrafool,nazimuddin,kapali, Johurul islam... or anyone who has had success in the t-20 leagues

[firstlane]

Originally Posted by shakibrulz
Afridi is supposed to be their allrounder actually. And afridi is the last one you want to make a role model of - averaging an earth shattering 23 from almost 300 matches. I don't think any team will play such a mediocre player for 300 matches except Pakistan.

Afridi = Glorified Ashrafool.

23 avg is not that bad for a no.7 or 8 batsman. At this position not many batsmen has a 35 avg. But you can't play a batsmen at the top order with 23 avg. But again if avg is everything whats wrong with m'ullah then? All I am saying if you will bring him in the team (we all know selectors will to this at some point) let him bat in lower-middle order where he can play the way he wants. And i dont think his bowling is so much worse than naeem or m'ullah. Afridi may not be the most consistant batsman and so not ash but on their day they can be destuctive. Its not about making afridi role model or anything, its about making the right use of your resources. And on another note, we have shakib to fill the allrounder's shoe.