New ODI Team

Imtiaz · #1 June 29, 2008, 05:17 AM

I feel a lot better after yesterday - notwithstanding our loss. We played an ODI as it should be played. Hence, no feeling of a humiliation - we competed.

Here is the nucleus of my team. Certainly for ODI's but I see no reason why not for tests:

Tamim
Ashraful
Raquib
Sakib
Alok
Aftab
Mushfiq
Mashrafe
Razzak
Shahadat
Rasel

or,

Tamim
Ashraful
Mushfiq
Raquib
Sakib
Alok
Aftab
Mashrafe
Razzak
Shahadat
Rasel

Point # 1. No bits and pieces player. Each player commands a place at least in one discipline.

Point # 2. Ashraful has become the "virtual" opener. Let him be one. Under JS , the "innings building" has paid dividends. Yesterday, he flirted with the demons again with fatal consequences.

Point # 3. Unless JS can also "tame" Aftab similarly, use him to what he likes to do. To me this is a shame as I feel Aftab could be a top class batsman. Both he and Ash are stubborn as a mule, but Ash seems to be softening.

Point # 4. Raquib and Sakib - no discussions. I took Sakib also as a bits and pieces player. Either he has improved or I was wrong, I don't know. A bit of both , maybe. Raquib has been solid from the first time I saw him. A very un-Bangladeshi player. He is almost reliable.

Point # 5. Alok comes in as a batsman. His bowling is a bonus. He alongwith Sakib and Aftab will be the 5th or 6th bowler. Together they will bowl 10+ overs.

Point # 6. Here I have changed my mind. Go in with Shahadat but tame him. Explain to him that he is not as quick as he thinks but if he does bowl in the right channels he should command a place. Now that there is no replacement for Rafiq - Mahmudullah is a joke - 3 pacers effectively becomes the norm.

Point # 7. Rasel. of course, comes back. Otherwise I will organise an insurgency !!

bdchamp20 · #2 June 29, 2008, 06:12 AM

ODI XI:
Tamim
Mushfiq
Ashraful*
Raqibul
Shakib
Kapali
Dhiman+
Mashrafe
Razzak
Shahadat
Rasel

Junayed
Riyad
Mosharaf
Tapash/Talha

Miraz · #3 June 29, 2008, 06:30 AM

I don't think one century has cemented Kapali's position in the team as a batsman. He is still a " bits and pieces player" (according to your denition) who can bat a bit and bowl a bit. Let him perform consistently and earn his place in the team. I would be very happy if he can do that and become a permanent fixture for the next few years. Good for Kapali and good for Bangladesh.

If Kapali can't maintain his consistency, which he failed to do over the years, he will be easily replaced by Mahmudullah Riayd who is more assuring in both batting and bowling.

BagherBacha · #4 June 29, 2008, 06:32 AM

Team should be like this-

Tamim
Aftab
Ash
raqib
Sakib
Mushfique
Kapali/Riad
Razzak
Mash
Shahadat
Rasel

Junayed
Nazmul Hossain
SN-for middle order for facing spin incase someone failed

mahbubH · #5 June 29, 2008, 06:38 AM

I like the team, Imtiaz. I like Mushfiq in the top of order more than the other options. Bowling would be pretty solid. Hope batsmen get some runs, we will have more matches like the last one.

taklima_naj · #6 June 29, 2008, 06:44 AM

Tamim
Mushfiq or tommorow we can try with mehrab
ash
raqib
saqib
kapali
aftab
mash
razzak
shahadat have to be more effective otherwise need to think other way
rasel offcourse

in reserve
forhad
riyad
mehrab jr
mossharaf not sure of him but as rafiq recommends and selectors prefer deserve more chance in 15 squad

simon · #7 June 29, 2008, 07:04 AM

my opinion is to keep both RYAD & ALOK,bring Sakib in by dropping Nazim.
Forget AFTAB & keep Raqibl,we may also let Raqbl open with Tamim.
Drop Farhad & bring back Rasel.

BanCricFan · #8 June 29, 2008, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miraz
If Kapali can't maintain his consistency, which he failed to do over the years, he will be easily replaced by Mahmudullah Riayd who is more assuring in both batting and bowling.

Absurdity at its best!

Sohel · #9 June 29, 2008, 07:20 AM

I'll post my team after this tournament.

BANFAN · #10 June 29, 2008, 07:41 AM

That's what is the team with following:

1 # Riyad is still a better option than Aftab and ahead of Alok in consistency
2 # There is nothing to Jump with Alex now, we did it before after his test hattrick, he needs to be more consistent to have a permanent place.
3 # I am not so sure about Rasel, I think he isn't going to be back under JS. We may have to look for a third pacer, Farhad/Dollar is no good either.
4 # Any two of Tamim, Mushi, raquibul should be opening and they should be 1,2,3 in batting order
5 # Ash should be at 4, Sakib 5, Alex 6

Miraz · #11 June 29, 2008, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BanCricFan
Absurdity at its best!

You failed to see the most important part of my quote my friend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miraz
If Kapali can't maintain his consistency, which he failed to do over the years, he will be easily replaced by Mahmudullah Riayd who is more assuring in both batting and bowling.

If Kapali can maintain consistency and occasionally produces masterful innings like the one against India, he will be way ahead of Riyad.

The_Yorker · #12 June 29, 2008, 08:11 AM

Everyone wants Rasel back and so do I. But he is not getting wicket with A team in Ireland. Is he ready? Any thought?

BANFAN · #13 June 29, 2008, 08:25 AM

This Rasel hype is just because our third pacer is not performing. If we can find another genuine pacer, that will solve the prob.

More over, JS probably is also not favouring him.

taklima_naj · #14 June 29, 2008, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Yorker
Everyone wants Rasel back and so do I. But he is not getting wicket with A team in Ireland. Is he ready? Any thought?

well in ODI wickets is not everything, accuracy is very important where batsman feels pressure and makes mistake and on the other end bowlers get wicket. rasel, rafique did it most of the time. thats why we always said our bowling was stronger and now what can we see?................................

pappiok · #15 June 29, 2008, 11:00 AM

there is a lack of opener. ash,raqibul,saqibul, and aftab r not good at open. so we need to developed s.nafis or junaid siddiki.........

sonarbangla · #16 June 29, 2008, 01:03 PM

Tamim
Mushfiq
riad
Rakibul
Sakib
Ashraful
Aftab / Nazim
Alok [I still consider him as a leggi]
Mashrafee
Razzak
Russel

Farhad (sub)

then we have bowling options:

Mashrafee
Russel
Razzak
Sakib
Alok + Riad + Aftab = 10 over

Logic is: Give it a stable start, and then send our hitters at the very end. Keep taking singles till the 30th over.

Shobha · #17 June 29, 2008, 01:31 PM

my dream team:

Tamim
Aftab (i'm telling you opening with him will work!)
Raqib
Sakib
ashraful
rahim
Kapali
riyad (highly in doubt)
mortaza
razzak
rasel (pray that he comes back in form)

Eshen · #18 June 29, 2008, 02:58 PM

I also like to see Aftab opening. We need a pinch hitter to go along with Tamim (who has now become an orthodox opener), and Aftab, I believe, is the best option we have in Bangladesh. If he fails to adapt to this role, we can bring back Zunaed.

I am also willing to stick with Shahadat, at least for the next ODI series in Australia. If he can be trained to bowl more consistently in right areas, he can be a better opening bowler (along with Rasel) than Mashrafe is. In that case, Mashrafe can be in the team as the third seamer.

One from Mahmudullah and Alok has to be left out to make place for Sakib. Unless Mahamudullah produce a magnificent century in next two ODIs, I think it will be him.

I also like the see the best performer from the A-team that currently touring England (someone besides the ones already in the national team) is included in the squad for next ODI series.

So, my team would be -

Tamim Iqbal
Aftab Ahmed
Mohammad Ashraful
Rokibul Hasan
Sakib Al Hasan
Alok Kapali
Mushfiqur Rahim
Abdur Razzak
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossain
Syed Rasel

12th Man: Farhad Reza

Reserves: Mahmudullah, Mosharraf Hossain, The best performer from the A-team

BANFAN · #19 June 29, 2008, 03:09 PM

Pinch hitting strategy could only work in dead flat pitches, where there is no chance of movement. Somewhat like yesterdays (Vs Ind) pitch.

We probably need a stable opener to steady the innings and get the stage ready for the later guys to come and play with some agression. Aftab, I am in serious doubt about his future in the team, unless he brings in a little more orthodoxy in his batting.

jayasurja is not a pinch hitter, Aftab could be one close to that, if he had some sense in his batting. He has really turned into a pinch hitter.

nycpro96 · #20 June 29, 2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imtiaz
I feel a lot better after yesterday - notwithstanding our loss. We played an ODI as it should be played. Hence, no feeling of a humiliation - we competed.

Here is the nucleus of my team. Certainly for ODI's but I see no reason why not for tests:

Tamim
Ashraful
Raquib
Sakib
Alok
Aftab
Mushfiq
Mashrafe
Razzak
Shahadat
Rasel

or,

Tamim
Ashraful
Mushfiq
Raquib
Sakib
Alok
Aftab
Mashrafe
Razzak
Shahadat
Rasel

Point # 1. No bits and pieces player. Each player commands a place at least in one discipline.

Point # 2. Ashraful has become the "virtual" opener. Let him be one. Under JS , the "innings building" has paid dividends. Yesterday, he flirted with the demons again with fatal consequences.

Point # 3. Unless JS can also "tame" Aftab similarly, use him to what he likes to do. To me this is a shame as I feel Aftab could be a top class batsman. Both he and Ash are stubborn as a mule, but Ash seems to be softening.

Point # 4. Raquib and Sakib - no discussions. I took Sakib also as a bits and pieces player. Either he has improved or I was wrong, I don't know. A bit of both , maybe. Raquib has been solid from the first time I saw him. A very un-Bangladeshi player. He is almost reliable.

Point # 5. Alok comes in as a batsman. His bowling is a bonus. He alongwith Sakib and Aftab will be the 5th or 6th bowler. Together they will bowl 10+ overs.

Point # 6. Here I have changed my mind. Go in with Shahadat but tame him. Explain to him that he is not as quick as he thinks but if he does bowl in the right channels he should command a place. Now that there is no replacement for Rafiq - Mahmudullah is a joke - 3 pacers effectively becomes the norm.

Point # 7. Rasel. of course, comes back. Otherwise I will organise an insurgency !!

I personally like your team and strategy but isnt sakib one of our main spin bowlers and doesnt he bowl full 10 overs all the time?

Eshen · #21 June 29, 2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BANFAN
Pinch hitting strategy could only work in dead flat pitches, where there is no chance of movement. Somewhat like yesterdays (Vs Ind) pitch.

We probably need a stable opener to steady the innings and get the stage ready for the later guys to come and play with some agression. Aftab, I am in serious doubt about his future in the team, unless he brings in a little more orthodoxy in his batting.

jayasurja is not a pinch hitter, Aftab could be one close to that, if he had some sense in his batting. He has really turned into a pinch hitter.

Nowadays, pitches used in ODIs are flat most of the time, may be not as dead as pitches used in Kitply Cup or Asia Cup, but still flat (remember the pitches in NZ for the ODI series ?).

I will be very glad if we can find someone more stable and consistent than Aftab to partner Tamim, but at this point we have none.

sbsash · #22 June 29, 2008, 03:40 PM

My team for ODI's.......

1.Tamim
2.Mushfiq
3.Ashraful
4.Rokibul
5.Aftab
6.Sakib
7.Alok
8.Mahmadulla
9.Mashrafe
10.Razzak
11.Shahadat or Rasel

This is why I think my batting order will be good....
1.I think Mushfiq will do a good job as opener.
2.There are 6 bowlers.
3.9 of the players can bat well.
4.4 of the bowlers are spinners.
5.2 of the bowlers are pace bowlers and you can count Aftab as a pace bowler if you want to.

Bangladesh team should try that order.

GO BANGLADESH!!!

djnaved · #23 June 29, 2008, 05:08 PM

putting down aftab as a opener or putting down aftab in 6th or 7th down is not a good solution at all........like his earlier days he could hit sixes and fours easily, but the from 2007, when he tries to play shots from the crease he gets caught to the slip/midwicket............he have played more than 50 odis, still doesn't get a century, lack of patience causes it......

here is my best 11:

Tamim
SN/Nazim/Junayed( we need another good opener like tamim, but we have only 3 openers)
Ashraful
Rakibul
Sakib
Alok
Mushfique
Riyad/Forhad(depends upon the pitch)
Razzak
Mashrafee
Rasel

Eshen · #24 June 29, 2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djnaved
putting down aftab as a opener or putting down aftab in 6th or 7th down is not a good solution at all........like his earlier days he could hit sixes and fours easily, but the from 2007, when he tries to play shots from the crease he gets caught to the slip/midwicket............he have played more than 50 odis, still doesn't get a century, lack of patience causes it......

I admit it's frustrating to see how inconsistent Aftab is, but he is still better than Shahriar, Nazim, or Zunaed.

Shahriar has been averaging around 10 (not counting minnow matches) for last two and half years, I think I have seen enough of him.

Aftab and Nazim have been playing side by side since their U/19 days. Both are similar kind of batsmen, but so far indications say Aftab is a much better option.

Zunaed has potential to be a better batsman, but at this point his form is much worse than that of Aftab.

Once again, I will be very happy if we can find a more consistent partner for Tamim, but at this point we have none better than Aftab.

Eshen · #25 June 29, 2008, 06:05 PM

BTW, I am not expecting any Jayasuriya out of Aftab, but it will be still an achievement if we can make a Kaluwitharana out of him.