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Old July 10, 2008, 12:57 AM
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Default Asia Cup Bd Vs Pakistan : Match Analysis( Nation’s Hopes In Tatters Stopping Future Disasters)

ASIA CUP BD VS PAKISTAN : MATCH ANALYSIS( NATION’S HOPES IN TATTERS STOPPING FUTURE DISASTERS)

July 4, 2008 is a sad day for BD cricket as our Tigers created an Asian record of lowest score by a team in the just concluded Asia Cup by making a mockery of International level batting quality that cricketers playing club cricket will also be ashamed. It won’t be an exaggeration that on that day Bangladesh Tigers proved to be Bangladesh Donkeys.

By virtue of their infamous batting display they have put their Coach’s position at stake.

Is this a protest to Siddons’ Team Rule or Coaching' as the way they played the much talked about team rules became farcical as all one saw was team lawlessness ?

The nation as a whole is indeed baffled adn puzzled as what could lead them to such self made disaster

How can one explain Nazimuddin going for pull shot so early when he hasn’t had a feel of the bowler or pitch and Raqibul the safest and best batsman on current form going for a wild pull at the first ball he faced.?


What is surprising is this very team has done reasonably well against better opposition in the earlier matches as records shows ?

Batting performance

Against Sri lanka : 226 for 7 in 50 overs

Opposition Bowlers :
Vaas, Kulasekara, Fernando,Mendis, Muralitharan Jayasuriya, Silva

Against India : 283 for 6 in 50 overs

Opposition Bowlers :
Gony, Sharma, Ojha, Pathan,Yuvraj Singh

Against Sri lanka : 174 in 38.3 overs

Opposition Bowlers
Vaas, Kulasekara, Mirando, Mendis, Muralitharan ,Kapugedera .

Pakistan fielded a second string bowling – No Omar Gul ,.No Asif, No Shoaib Akhter. Not even Shahid Afridi who is capable of causing serious damage.

Pak Bowling Team :
Sohail Tanvir, Abdur Rauf, Iftikhar Anjum, Saeed Ajmal, Shoaib Malik.

The pitch offered sideways movement and extra bounce . But none of the bowlers were demons.

Our players had negotiated better bowlers in the previous matches like Vaas, Kulasekara, Sharma Mendis, Muralitharan. At this level you are expected to handle this kind of sideways movement and extra bounce.

They just threw their wickets in a most shameful manner and panicked . It appeared they had no plan whatsoever and all we a saw was a spineless display of batting from a bunch of donkeys meekly surrendering . It was so painful to see the circus.

All we managed was a shocking score of 115 runs lasting 38.2 overs 179 minutes at RR of 3.00.

How did we individually do ? There you go.

Tamim Iqbal : 26
:Nazimuddin : 3
Mohammad Ashraful : 14
Raqibul Hasan : 0
Mushfiqur Rahim :15
Alok Kapali :17
Mahmudullah :11
Farhad Reza :3
Mashrafe Mortaza :1
Abdur Razzak :9
Shahadat Hossain :0
Extras :16

Only 5 BD members managed double figures with Tamim top scoring with 26 and 6 members failing to even reach double figures .That sums up everything.

After the aftermath of this nightmare one wonders if we are ever going to make any progress no matter how much Siddons teaches. The coach can teach the players to a certain extent . It is for the players to pick up, plan, adapt apply as per needs of the situation and show commitment and dedication that they are serious about it and care for the team, nation.

It is indeed encouraging to see Lipu - BCB Boss coming up with a scathing criticism of players and for the majority part he was spot on.

Of Course Lipu did not provide the solution that is ailing the team.

As Lipu has rightly pointed out in an article by Bishwajit Roy titled ‘Ashraf skins the Tigers’ that appeared recently in the Daily Star:

“Considering the top level facilities we provide them, we hardly get the return. They have to understand that they are doing a service for which they get money”.

The saddest part is that both Coach and captain and now it rubbed on to the players that irrespective of their performance they get away scott-free as none of them it seems feels that they are accountable to anybody . So who cares. So the disgraceful performance continues. No feelings whatsoever that they have put the nation down.

This is one of the reasons that complacency has grown amongst players to the extent that irrespective of their performance - good,bad or worse they are taking for granted their place in the team and making very little effort to contribute to the team.

Had they been in India or even Pakistan where people are very emotional and violent they would have been subjugated to burning of their effiigies and other extreme acts.

This never happens in Bangladesh. Our Crowd and fans especially in cricket are lenient and forgiving.

I have some humble suggestions on some possible means to stem the rot of our downslide performance.

Our BD cricket Team members, Coach should be accountable to BCB for their performance good or bad.

It should be made mandatory for the Captain, Coach to give reports at the end of every series whether at home or abroad.

The Captain, Coach has to have a one on one session with the BCB board at the end of every series whether at home or abroad.

The Captain Coach has to meet and answer to Press and TV to be selected by BCB after every series whether at home or abroad.

The above measures will ensure that neither Coach, Captain gets Scot free for under performance which has been the case for the last 6 months.

To ensure that the team does not underperform and at the same time improve
their should be both penalties and bonuses.

Nothing works better than monetary incentives for performance enhancement.
On the otherhand strict penalties will ensure that they do not underperform.

Here we go.

Batsman

Penalties
Openers failing to score a minimum of 30 plus in a one day match will lose 25 % match fee.

If they score 21 – 30 penalty of 35 % match fee.

If one of them or any other recognized batsman scores duck penalty of 35 % match fee .

Bonuses

If an opener or any batsman, all rounder or tailender scores 50 or plus but less than 100 he should be eligible for a regular bonus.

If an opener or any batsman, all rounder scores 100 a double bonus.

If an opener or batsman within the first 5 stays till the 50th he will be eligible for a regular bonus.

Bowlers

Penalties

Any Specialist bowlers not getting wickets will be fined 25% match fee.

Bowlers conceding 50 – 60 runs will be fined 25% .

Bowlers conceding 70 or more runs should be fined 40%.

Bonuses

Bowlers getting 3 or more wickets a will be eligible for a regular bonus.

Bowlers getting 4 or more wickets a will be eligible for a double bonus.

Bowlers getting 5 or more wickets a will be eligible for a Super bonus.

Bowlers with economy rate of 3 or less will eligible for a regular bonus.

Fielders
Penalties

If a fielder misses 2 or more regular catches will be fined 20% mach fee.

Bonuses

Any Fielder with 5 or more saves of shots that would have resulted in a boundary will will be eligible for a regular bonus.

If team achieves 3 brilliant run outs will eligible for a regular bonus.


Wicketkeeper

Penalties

If wicketkeeper misses 2 stumpings or 2 catches will be fined 20% mach fee.

If wicketkeeper misses 3 stumpings or 3 catches will be fined 40% mach fee.

Bonuses

If wicketkeeper makes 4 dismissals(catches + stumpings) will be will eligible for a regular bonus.

If wicketkeeper makes 5 dismissals(catches + stumpings) will be will eligible for a double bonus.

Team Performance
Penalties

If BD team loses all matches to any team in a one day series penalty to both team and the Coach fined 50% mach fee.

If BD team loses by 10 wickets or 100 runs will be fined 40% mach fee.

If BD team loses by ( 8-9) wickets or 50 runs will be fined 20% mach fee.

Bonuses

If BD team loses by ( 11 - 20 ) runs or 2 wickets will be eligible for a regular bonus.

If BD team loses by ( 5 – 10) runs or 1 wicket will be eligible for a double bonus.

IF the BD team wins against

Any South Asian Cricket team or England or Newzealand or West Indies will be eligible for a regular bonus.

Against Australia, South Africa will be eligible for a double bonus.

If the BD team draws against Any South Asian Cricket team or England or Newzealand or West Indies will be eligible for a regular bonus.

If the BD team draws against Against Australia, South Africa will be eligible for a double bonus.

The fines does not necessarily has to be on match fee. BCB has to formulate a system
of penalties and bonuses that best serves their interest. The objective is to stem the rot .

The idea is to instill in the team that their existence in the team is purely performance based and they will be subject to penalties and bonuses depending on under or good performance and also be aware that they are paid to do a job and should try to perform to their potential .

Their is no room for complacency.

Hope this helps.

Allah Hafez.

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Old July 10, 2008, 01:33 AM
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Well, BCB, Selectors and Coach should do their duty first, only then they could blame the players for under-performance, period
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Well ehtashamul, I have to say well-though post and for me to admit something so much takes a real go. But your idea of bonuses and fines may be harsh but it is certainly something which has worked for many teams in football and cricket.

See what the IPL is doing? Its making money but also lifting performances and while people after me will disagree with your views I for one strongly agree although the percentage of the fines and bonuses should lower a bit, lol. For e.g can BCB afford o give regular bonuses but also the fine of 1/4 of their salary is a bit too much maybe 1/5 or 1/6. But still good idea and i hope BCB consider this(if they ever read this!) and it would be good for the country too because the money from fines could go to infrastructure and good causes.
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ehteshamsul,
ektu gorom hoiye gasen. Calm down. Pull'er ball tho pull korbei. Especially in the beginning of the innings when almost everyone is in the circle. Tai boley out hobey kano? Sanath, Shewag, Jamshed ki chairey kotha koi?

"eit ka jabab patthar" jodi na hoi ta holey shomman jonok porajoi niye amader thaktey hobey.

Pull'er ball obhiously pull korbey kintu placing thik kortey hobey ar out howa cholbey na.

You have missed a trick also.

How about the comment on "we were not ready for the bouncers so early in the innings"? I thought that was classic. I just like to know which bolod said that. Looking at the outs, Tamim, Nazimuddin, Ash, Raqibul all fits the bill. Knowing those boys Raqibul would not have the audicity of speak like that. Must have been Ash or Tamim. My money is on Ash.
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And then there's always the possibility that the Lankans, at this particular time and place, were simply too good. Witness India's batting performance against them in the final -- not really that very different from ours.
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Well ehtashamul, I have to say well-though post and for me to admit something so much takes a real go. But your idea of bonuses and fines may be harsh but it is certainly something which has worked for many teams in football and cricket.

See what the IPL is doing? Its making money but also lifting performances and while people after me will disagree with your views I for one strongly agree although the percentage of the fines and bonuses should lower a bit, lol. For e.g can BCB afford o give regular bonuses but also the fine of 1/4 of their salary is a bit too much maybe 1/5 or 1/6. But still good idea and i hope BCB consider this(if they ever read this!) and it would be good for the country too because the money from fines could go to infrastructure and good causes.
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THANKS!

Hello Sadz Bhaiyya ,

Thanks for the Feedback and appreciation.

The extent of fine and bonus I have envisioned in my thread is a rough estimate .

It is for BCB to decide what extent of penalty or bonus plan they would like to formulate to discipline and reward the cricketers if and when they consider.

The source of fund for bonus obviously has to come from sponsors and BCB is smart enough to find a few like Grameen Bank.

Hope this helps.

Allah Hafez.

Cheers!

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ehteshamsul,
ektu gorom hoiye gasen. Calm down. Pull'er ball tho pull korbei. Especially in the beginning of the innings when almost everyone is in the circle. Tai boley out hobey kano? Sanath, Shewag, Jamshed ki chairey kotha koi?

"eit ka jabab patthar" jodi na hoi ta holey shomman jonok porajoi niye amader thaktey hobey.

Pull'er ball obhiously pull korbey kintu placing thik kortey hobey ar out howa cholbey na.

You have missed a trick also.

How about the comment on "we were not ready for the bouncers so early in the innings"? I thought that was classic. I just like to know which bolod said that. Looking at the outs, Tamim, Nazimuddin, Ash, Raqibul all fits the bill. Knowing those boys Raqibul would not have the audicity of speak like that. Must have been Ash or Tamim. My money is on Ash.


THANKS!

Hello Tigers_eye Bhaiyya ,

Thanks for your insights.

I appreciate your participation.


Allah Hafez.

Cheers!

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Hello SS Bhaiyya ,

Well said.

I appreciate your participation.

Allah Hafez.

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I suggest "Vladmamu reborn"
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Please take no offense. But, are you vertically challenged? Just a quirky assumption.
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Please take no offense. But, are you vertically challenged? Just a quirky assumption.
TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION

Hello Beamer.

No Offense . How about yourself ?

By the Grace of Almighty I am fortunate to be okay in every respect.

Doing right things at the right time benefits yourself and benefits others too.

When you try to do new things you will be challenged by others for ignorance or being satisfied with what they have . This is human nature. But if you have Self Belief and Self confidence most likely you can make it happen.

Because of that and Absolute belief in God I was able to get opportunities to work at Lever Brothers and Microsoft USA.

I do not know how far you have been able to fathom the thread in question.

In a nutshell the message is : The players have to have accountability and should be compensated to the extent they perform .

If they perform well off course they have to be rewarded in the form of bonus or any monetary incentive as appropriate.

If they underfperform they should be penalised. This will help to get them disciplined and create a sense of awareness that they are paid to do a job.

I hope this helps you a bit.

Allah Hafez.

Cheers!

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They should try that and see if the team plays better.

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WELCOME SBASH BHAIYYA!

Hello sbash Bhaiyya,

Thanks for your feedback and appreciation.

I am amazed at your dynamism.

Welcome aboard!

Don’t worry what others say.

Keep opening threads and post as much as you can as you think appropriate.

You will make mistakes as you go along. Everybody does.

Their will be people who will appreciate your efforts and their will be people who will try to pull you down.

But I think from what I have seen from you so far you have Self Belief and Self Confidence and slowly and surely you will win the heart of most people.

You will have my full backing ,cooperation and support.

So Keep going.

My prediction is soon you will be a force to reckon with.

Wish you the very best !

Keep going!

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I suggest "Vladmamu reborn"

Hello Spitfire_x86,

I may dare say that the style I have developed may be lengthy but the contents has always zillion points to prove and highly analytical which Vladmamu or for that matter any mamus will not be able to match from what I have seen and read so far .Plus the spontaneous accolades and acknowledgement I received so far inclusive of my earlier staunch critics bears testimony that the posts and threads I open are not crap but of great value.

So I want to remain with my own identity which is unique and inimitable and do not want to be compared with any other identity ( No offence to Vladmamu or any Virtual or Real Mamus)

Best wishes!

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Hello cricket_dorshok

If you are a smart thinker, have a good command in writing ,possess a good knowledge of International and BD cricket,passion for BD cricket and know how to budget your time Boro post should not matter at all.

If you had implied in your reply how I manage to write such long posts and have time to manage office work .

The Answer is very simple .
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I do my thinking on thread / post outlines and contents typically in the evening between ( 8 – 9 ) p.m ( I get back from office at 6:00 p.m)
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This particular one I started at 10.00 pm. and finished at almost 2.00 a.m. all at one stretch.

In between I had 2 cups of coffee and mangoes which I love.

I hr for editing and then launched .or opened the thread.

I do not know how far you have been able to fathom the thread in question.

In a nutshell the message is : The players have to have accountability and should be compensated to the extent they perform.

If they perform well off course they have to be rewarded in the form of bonus or any monetary incentive as appropriate.

If they underperform they should be penalised. This will help to get them disciplined and create a sense of awareness that they are paid to do a job.

I hope this helps.

Allah Hafez.

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TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION

Hello Beamer.

No Offense . How about yourself ?

By the Grace of Almighty I am fortunate to be okay in every respect.

Doing right things at the right time benefits yourself and benefits others too.

When you try to do new things you will be challenged by others for ignorance or being satisfied with what they have . This is human nature. But if you have Self Belief and Self confidence most likely you can make it happen.

Because of that and Absolute belief in God I was able to get opportunities to work at Lever Brothers and Microsoft USA.

I do not know how far you have been able to fathom the thread in question.

In a nutshell the message is : The players have to have accountability and should be compensated to the extent they perform .

If they perform well off course they have to be rewarded in the form of bonus or any monetary incentive as appropriate.

If they underfperform they should be penalised. This will help to get them disciplined and create a sense of awareness that they are paid to do a job.

I hope this helps you a bit.

Allah Hafez.

Cheers!

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I guess 'Strange' is stranger than fiction in this case.

Just okay? specially for someone who anticipates the 'right time' to do the 'right thing'. No one can boast of the fact they have taken every right decision, in the nick of time, in their lifespan, unless you are from Delphi, and we already have an Oracle here!

What new things? reading a long column when it can be easily fit in four-five lines can indeed be challenging. Actually, people are quite open to welcome new ideas in BC, contrary to your assumptions,and often with well thought out criticisms. Only the ignorant screams ignorance more often than others.

You are also missing humor. I wasn't questioning your posts, as you have a right to say what you want, but, the strange style of billboard type lengthy bold write-ups are actually devoid of any substance when you examine it closely. Hence the vertically challenged remark ,and sorry to say that you offer nothing new. Your ideas of penalties for players are nothing new and has been discussed many times over.

Pretty hard to fathom what you are saying really. Maybe, you ought to climb down the ladder and write like everyone else does, from a ground level, and maybe, you will start to make sense, though I doubt it highly. Microsoft should have taught you that. and who says Microsoft USA? Its fine if you have worked for Microsoft Sudan. No one cares..
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well.. i think that the penalties are a bit too harsh.. not all.. but some of them..
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I guess 'Strange' is stranger than fiction in this case.

Just okay? specially for someone who anticipates the 'right time' to do the 'right thing'. No one can boast of the fact they have taken every right decision, in the nick of time, in their lifespan, unless you are from Delphi, and we already have an Oracle here!

What new things? reading a long column when it can be easily fit in four-five lines can indeed be challenging. Actually, people are quite open to welcome new ideas in BC, contrary to your assumptions,and often with well thought out criticisms. Only the ignorant screams ignorance more often than others.

You are also missing humor. I wasn't questioning your posts, as you have a right to say what you want, but, the strange style of billboard type lengthy bold write-ups are actually devoid of any substance when you examine it closely. Hence the vertically challenged remark ,and sorry to say that you offer nothing new. Your ideas of penalties for players are nothing new and has been discussed many times over.

Pretty hard to fathom what you are saying really. Maybe, you ought to climb down the ladder and write like everyone else does, from a ground level, and maybe, you will start to make sense, though I doubt it highly. Microsoft should have taught you that. and who says Microsoft USA? Its fine if you have worked for Microsoft Sudan. No one cares..
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I am afraid your reply content is for the most part baseless and gives the impression of a poor quality reader.

As a piece of advice read the replies of other Readers and see the big gulf of difference between yours ands others.

Even a eleven year old sbsash displayed great a maturity in his reply .

He wrote :

They should try that and see if the team plays better.

This was possibly the best reply

Sadz was the second best

He wrote :

Well ehtashamul, I have to say well-though post and for me to admit something so much takes a real go. But your idea of bonuses and fines may be harsh but it is certainly something which has worked for many teams in football and cricket.

See what the IPL is doing? Its making money but also lifting performances and while people after me will disagree with your views I for one strongly agree although the percentage of the fines and bonuses should lower a bit, lol. For e.g can BCB afford o give regular bonuses but also the fine of 1/4 of their salary is a bit too much maybe 1/5 or 1/6. But still good idea and i hope BCB consider this(if they ever read this!) and it would be good for the country too because the money from fines could go to infrastructure and good causes.
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well.. i think that the penalties are a bit too harsh.. not all.. but some of them..

I am afraid in terms of quality and insights you are nowhere near any of them.

I guess you ought to work hard to get a Driver’s license of a Quality Reader.

Until you attain that it is a NO NO with me

Wishing you the best.

Allah Hafez.

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Old July 12, 2008, 11:16 PM
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well.. i think that the penalties are a bit too harsh.. not all.. but some of them..
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Hello crikfreak Bhaiyya,

Welcome back.

Thanks for the Feedback and appreciation.

The extent of fine and bonus I have envisioned in my thread is a rough estimate .

It is for BCB to decide what extent of penalty or bonus plan they would like to formulate to discipline and reward the cricketers if and when they consider.

The source of fund for bonus has to come from sponsors and BCB can go for the big guns like Grameen Bank.

Hope this helps.

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In a nutshell the message is : The players have to have accountability and should be compensated to the extent they perform .
Agree to the concept.

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Is this a protest to Siddons’ Team Rule or Coaching' as the way they played the much talked about team rules became farcical as all one saw was team lawlessness ?
Do we have an answer yet?
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Agree to the concept.



Do we have an answer yet?
THANKS!

Hello Banfan Bhaiyya ,

Thanks for the Feedback and appreciation.

It is a great pleasure to have participation of a reader of your class and quality.

I am a fan of yours as I have found you to be one of the top 10 readers in BC cricket forum whose threads , postings has a touch of class and quality. So for comparatively new BC members like myself it is indeed a great opportunity to get enlightened.

In my perception Some of the great attributes that I have observed in your threads and postings are :

It reflects that you are on top of things as far as cricket and BD Cricket is concerned.

Word Flow and choice of words shows you come with a good educational background.

You are fearless- You stand by what you say and convey.

Appreciate where appreciation is due and criticize as appropriate.

Last but not the least - You love to share your views with other BC Forum with great postings which bears stamp of class and quality.

The above attributes are hallmark of a good reader.

In essence you are an asset to BC Forum in general and readers in particular.

So I would appreciate your opinion on my future threads and postings and your feedbacks will help me to get better.

Now I would like to clarify the answer you were seeking :

If you notice very closely the match witnessed some horrendous acts of our batsman which is so contrary to Siddons Team Rule and all these appears to me very fishy.

Scenario 1
How can one explain Nazimuddin going for pull shot so early when he hasn’t had a feel of the bowler or pitch ?. Did he follow the team rule ? No. What does that mean ? Team lawlessness.

Scenario 2
Why would Raqibul the safest and best batsman on current form going for a wild pull at the first ball he faced.? Did he follow the team rule ? No. What does that mean ? Team lawlessness.

Scenario 3
The rest panicked and meekly threw their wickets . It was abject surrender in a most shameful manner. Did the rest follow team rule ? No .What does that mean ? Team lawlessness.

All we managed was a shocking score of 115 runs lasting 38.2 overs 179 minutes at RR of 3.00.

How did we individually do ? There you go.

Tamim Iqbal : 26
:Nazimuddin : 3
Mohammad Ashraful : 14
Raqibul Hasan : 0
Mushfiqur Rahim :15
Alok Kapali :17
Mahmudullah :11
Farhad Reza :3
Mashrafe Mortaza :1
Abdur Razzak :9
Shahadat Hossain :0
Extras :16

Only 5 BD members managed double figures with Tamim top scoring with 26 and 6 members failing to even reach double figures .That sums up everything.

Pakistan fielded a second string bowling – No Omar Gul ,.No Asif, No Shoaib Akhter. Not even Shahid Afridi who is capable of causing serious damage.

Pak Bowling Team :
Sohail Tanvir, Abdur Rauf, Iftikhar Anjum, Saeed Ajmal, Shoaib Malik.

The pitch offered sideways movement and extra bounce . But none of the bowlers were demons.

Our players had negotiated better bowlers in the previous matches like Vaas, Kulasekara, Sharma Mendis, Muralitharan. At this level you are expected to handle this kind of sideways movement and extra bounce.

Right or wrong one can easily smell a rat that all was not well on BD cricket camp.

The above acts leads one to believe that it might be an outburst of Players message to Siddons that they are not happy with his style of coaching .

Hope this has helped a bit to the answer you are seeking.

Allah Hafez.

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