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Old January 22, 2009, 08:30 PM
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Stop playing cricket and try baseball. Its much easier.
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Oh I have one more question. Does anyone know anyway to practice playing a shot down to 3rd man? Whenever I try it, I either get an edge or miss the ball completely. Also how do you play the "Ash" shot. Its so hard!!!
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Old January 22, 2009, 08:51 PM
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Stop playing cricket and try baseball. Its much easier.
Thank you sir for answering my question completely.

Btw, I play both Baseball and cricket.
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Old January 22, 2009, 08:54 PM
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Thank you sir for answering my question completely.

Btw, I play both Baseball and cricket.
Well, then stop playing Baseball and cricket, and start studying.

(Landscape designer's salary > Cricketer's salary) < (Plumber's salary)
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Old January 22, 2009, 09:36 PM
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Well, then stop playing Baseball and cricket, and start studying.

(Landscape designer's salary > Cricketer's salary) < (Plumber's salary)
lol I plan on being one of those inhouse lawyers that work for a corporation. They have flexible hours and an entry level(straight out of college) salary starts at $70,000 a year!
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Old January 22, 2009, 10:44 PM
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Oh I have one more question. Does anyone know anyway to practice playing a shot down to 3rd man? Whenever I try it, I either get an edge or miss the ball completely.
Just wait for it. Keep your eyes on it ALL the time and play it when it's passing the crease; also, make sure to angle your bat so that you can carve it behind the wicket. Oh and KEEP IT DOWN!

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Also how do you play the "Ash" shot. Its so hard!!!
Don't play the Ash shot. If you need an idol, look at how Duminy plays his cricket.
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Old March 16, 2009, 07:06 PM
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Okay, I played cricket yesterday and bowled fast and now my back is hurting really bad, I think it has to do something with my action. I think its a mixed action rather than a side-on or the front-on action. I am not really very clear about side-ons and front-ons, can someone please explan how exactly side-on bowlers bowl ?
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Old March 16, 2009, 07:06 PM
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Every spinner is giving RPMs in a certain direction right? If you are a RHB the offie is spinning towards you - so if you were to play a sweep shot, you are playing "with the spin". This implies your chances of a top edge are reduced. Now if you tried to play a reverse sweep shot instead, you would be playing "against the spin", i.e. against the direction the ball was heading anyways because of the spin.
Ohh, thanks RazzabQ bhaiya.
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Old March 16, 2009, 07:14 PM
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Okay, I played cricket yesterday and bowled fast and now my back is hurting really bad.

that used to happen to me when I did fast balls.Usually I don't do many fast balls now.I do medium pace.
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Old March 16, 2009, 07:18 PM
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that used to happen to me when I did fast balls.Usually I don't do many fast balls now.I do medium pace.
Yes, but the problem didnt happen before . It happened soon after I changed by bowling action slightly (my older one was alot more accurate but slower, but I prefer faster and more movement than deadly accuracy)

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Old March 16, 2009, 07:32 PM
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Yes, but the problem didnt happen before . It happened soon after I changed by bowling action slightly (my older one was alot more accurate but slower, but I prefer faster and more movement than deadly accuracy as accuracy most of the times )
Which player's fast bowliing does your's look like?
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Old March 16, 2009, 07:55 PM
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Which player's fast bowliing does your's look like?
It kinda looks like Bret lee's.
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Old March 16, 2009, 07:58 PM
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mine looks like Shahdat Hossain's.Same way of running,same way of swinging the arm,same face before releasing the ball.
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Old March 16, 2009, 07:59 PM
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mine looks like Shahdat Hossain's.Same way of running,same way of swinging the arm,same face before releasing the ball.
Lol, dont tell me you bowl the same bouncers too....
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Old March 16, 2009, 08:02 PM
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Lol, dont tell me you bowl the same bouncers too....
noI don't do bouncers.I bowl at full mostly but sometimes middle.And thats only for fast bowling.
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Old March 16, 2009, 08:15 PM
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noI don't do bouncers.I bowl at full mostly but sometimes middle.And thats only for fast bowling.
I see, I generally bowl at the Good Length and use Bouncers and yorkers as surprises with a touch of swing. Anyways back to the real problem, can anyone please explain side-on bowling to me ?
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Old March 16, 2009, 11:35 PM
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Dhrubo, youtube Imran Khan and Flintoff bowling. Imran had the classical side on action. So did Kapil. Flintoff, Aqib Javed, Mako have chest on action. Try and see which one yours is most similar to.
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Old March 17, 2009, 05:09 AM
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Oh I have one more question. Does anyone know anyway to practice playing a shot down to 3rd man? Whenever I try it, I either get an edge or miss the ball completely. Also how do you play the "Ash" shot. Its so hard!!!
there are two points, if the ball is pitched up you should NEVER play the steer shot(that's its name) unless the ball is pitched up AND wide (as a steer off an uppish delivery is very difficult to control.)

even then there is a considerable element of risk involved.

play the steer ONLY if the ball is pitched at the three quarter length or shorter.
the way to control the shot is to lean on your backfoot so that your weight is effectively on your backfoot and connect with the ball as it crosses your backfoot.
that should give you a reasonable amount of control.

cheers !
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Old March 17, 2009, 07:44 AM
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Does strength really matter that much in batting...ofcourse it helps to be more powerful...but is it a necessary skill to be a good batsman...or can skill and technique compensate for the lack of power?

In other words, is being scrawny a handicap or it really doesnt matter?

Im leaning towards the latter since most asian batsmen dont have much muscle definition to start with, but when u see the likes of australian muscle men, it really begs the question///
physique is good but not necessary, there are ways to generate powerful shots even if you aren't strong as a bull !
I remember the SA vs BD match in the T20 WC, the itsy bitsy BD players were literally exploding in the middle although not for long !
there is one part of the body that absolutely has to be strong to be a batsman, and those are the wrists. if the wrists aren't strong there's little that can be done for a player.
to check your wrtist strength, try holding the bat you use with your bottomhand at the extreme end of the handle, are you comfortable moving it around ?
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Old March 17, 2009, 02:30 PM
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Neel Here - welcome. Good posts!
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Old March 17, 2009, 03:24 PM
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I see, I generally bowl at the Good Length and use Bouncers and yorkers as surprises with a touch of swing. Anyways back to the real problem, can anyone please explain side-on bowling to me ?
In addition to what Razab bhai has said:

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Another thing to note is his relatively open chested action, something that negates the amount of pace and away swing that he is able to generate. It could help him generate a fair bit of in-swing, but since that doesn't seem to be one of his goals, he is losing out on the added pace and kick off the pitch that a more side on, high release action would have to offer.
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Old March 18, 2009, 08:00 AM
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Old March 18, 2009, 09:46 AM
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If the fielder X had already crossed the boundary, meaning if any part of his body was 'in contact' with outside the boundary when the ball was still in his hand (or in contact), then it is already a 6 before the 2nd fielder gets any chance.

Now, if the first fielder was inside the boundary when he contacted the ball and got outside only after throwing the ball, then it will be a catch attributed to the second fielder.

There is a difference here between the laws of football and cricket. In football, it is considered a goal if the ball crossed the goal line even in the air; but in cricket it is based on contact. So, if a fielder stays inside the boundary and catches a ball that flew in the air just outside the boundary, it will still be considered a catch.
Dear Atels,
This needs more explanation. The Fielder X can easily jump from inside the ground (without toucing the ropes) in the air (now he is floating in the air, his momentum has taken him outside the ground) and knocks the ball back inside in to another fielder Y's hand. While knocking the ball back, the ball clearly outside the ropes but in the air. Now would that be a catch? I say "yes", why not?

Like how a basketball player jumps in the air close to sidelines and knocks the ball back in to play and that is a live ball. His momentum would take him to the scorers table or in the laps of the cheerleaders ( I put the last sentence to make some atel visualize the scenario and smile).
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Dear Atels,
This needs more explanation. The Fielder X can easily jump from inside the ground (without toucing the ropes) in the air (now he is floating in the air, his momentum has taken him outside the ground) and knocks the ball back inside in to another fielder Y's hand. While knocking the ball back, the ball clearly outside the ropes but in the air. Now would that be a catch? I say "yes", why not?
TE bhai, it's all the 'contact' theory. Here is a video example ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWO5MO8z4ks
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Old March 18, 2009, 12:02 PM
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TE bhai, it's all the 'contact' theory. Here is a video example ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWO5MO8z4ks
Awesome video; Thank you. Yup while throwing the ball in the air his hands clearly went out side the ropes but he was not in contact with the ropes or out of bound ground. Great job Adam. Thinking in his feet.
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Old March 18, 2009, 01:18 PM
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TE bhai, it's all the 'contact' theory. Here is a video example ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWO5MO8z4ks
Haha check out the umbrella field under the related category. :=)
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