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Old February 3, 2009, 11:56 AM
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i personally dont think that there is alot of difference between ICL and IPL. does any of you think that the players should be banned because there playing for ICL. banning players doesnt help bangladesh progress in cricket and i dont see how ICL can cause problems to bangladesh the only country that i think ICL effects badly is india.

Do you think theres a difference between ICL and IPL furthermore do you thing ICL effects bangladesh in a bad way. i think ICL helps the players play more aggresivley so i think it helps the players in the shorter versions of the game.
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Old February 3, 2009, 12:28 PM
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i don't think ICL affected BD at all..since those player gone in ICL we player better cricket in both test and ODI......
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Old February 3, 2009, 12:31 PM
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well ICL didn't effect drastically or visibly in Bd team but it would have been very nice to have some of those guys back who really performed in ICLvery well.
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Old February 3, 2009, 12:33 PM
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If anyone can create tournaments that will take such revenue like ICL does, any board will have problem to find sponsors. IPL may have been a success, but India is 70% market for cricket revenues. Other boards will have much harder time. Also, the national board maintains calender so there is no conflict, but a 3rd party tournament will create conflict of interest who is paid much more playing tournaments like ICL. So ICC implied, as long as that country board allows it, its okey, but if it does not allow, its illegal to play in those tournaments.

Pakistan board banned its players based on that, and now awaiting clarification from ICC on this. If ICC has no problem, then PCB will lift the ban and many other countries, including Bangladesh may follow. But untill its clear, boards can not risk breaking ICC policy.

If you feel, even if the policy stays such and BCB should still let them play in domestic leagues, that also creates problem, as more players may go to ICL, as they will only give up right to play for the national team, but can still use BCB facilities and play local cricket and make money. And we will end up with weaker and weaker national team.

So at this point, we should keep banning them untill ICC changes its stand.
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Old February 3, 2009, 12:39 PM
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In the long term and the broader picture this is obviously hurting Bangladeshi cricket. Domestic cricket is much much weaker. Most of the players in the current team don't have any back-ups. If someone gets injured or has a horrific slump in form we will have to call a new player who most likely isn't ready for International cricket. ''A'' team will be much weaker and so will the Academy. Plus if we have them back no one will take their places for granted and will always be under pressure to perform. Two of the players can be potential captaincy options. Bashar and Rafique can perform mentoring roles. All in all Bangladesh cricket is basically cutting itself by continuing this idiotic ban to please someone else. It has no benefits for us.
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Old February 3, 2009, 04:04 PM
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i don't think ICL affected BD at all..since those player gone in ICL we player better cricket in both test and ODI......
exactly my point. they left by free will for money and left their country. thats their choice and they dont deserve another chance.
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Old February 3, 2009, 05:42 PM
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exactly my point. they left by free will for money and left their country. thats their choice and they dont deserve another chance.
Thats true
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... i think ICL helps the players play more aggresivley so i think it helps the players in the shorter versions of the game.
And that is why I dislike ICL and IPL. How much more aggressive players you guys want in BD national team? Now we are crossing 120. Soon with all boom boom type players that will be 50 all out team or one session team in test.

By the way, IMO, this thread needs to be redirected to another Sub-forum.
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No it doesn't Tiger's Eye. It has every right to be in the BD section. We are not talking of some foreign players here, we are talking about players that has represented BD and will represent BD in the future. It has everything to do with Bangladesh cricket.
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Old February 3, 2009, 05:55 PM
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is this poll going to BCB?
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Old February 3, 2009, 07:36 PM
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c'mooon! it's so easy just to point at them saying 'rajakar'; did anyone see what the reasons were? We guys, eating in dad's hotel 7 times a day, having a life of princes, do most of us who're talking think of anything else; but those people? they've got loads of things to think about, financial stuff, their future and things....just the emotion of playing for BD isn't going to be enough for them to survive, ....you might say wat abt the rest of the players? well, they didn't; maybe bcoz their situations wer different...c'mon letz not think one dimensionally
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If you feel, even if the policy stays such and BCB should still let them play in domestic leagues, that also creates problem, as more players may go to ICL, as they will only give up right to play for the national team, but can still use BCB facilities and play local cricket and make money. And we will end up with weaker and weaker national team.

So at this point, we should keep banning them untill ICC changes its stand.
Naked truth very well put by Mahmood bhai...we could face huge deficiency in pipeline players
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Old February 3, 2009, 08:44 PM
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No it doesn't Tiger's Eye. It has every right to be in the BD section. We are not talking of some foreign players here, we are talking about players that has represented BD and will represent BD in the future. It has everything to do with Bangladesh cricket.
That is your opinion.

After all we are talking about ICL players, correct? We have ICL Sub-forum. Then what is the use of having that? Instead of trying to get more hits, simply answer the question and you will know if the thread belongs here or not.
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Old February 3, 2009, 08:52 PM
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Although we don't feel the difference
i would still say we lost players like AFTAB...NAZIMUDDIN...ALOK...MOSHARRAF and in Some extent SHAHREER NAFIS and DHIMAN.
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Old February 3, 2009, 08:56 PM
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If you feel, even if the policy stays such and BCB should still let them play in domestic leagues, that also creates problem, as more players may go to ICL, as they will only give up right to play for the national team, but can still use BCB facilities and play local cricket and make money. And we will end up with weaker and weaker national team.
i agree with this but the BD people in the ICL should be given a chance to come back like Alok Kapli and Nafees. but the BCB should still ban the ICL. it might attract more of BD's players to go and play there.
by the way, how long are the contract of the BD players in the ICL. i bet the ICL isnt going to renew their contract once its ends
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Old February 3, 2009, 09:02 PM
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the ICL is the same as the IPL but if BD lifts the ban more of the domestic players are going to go there. the IPL is more competitive. there is more money involved in the IPL. THe BD players in the ICL also get paid less the IPL players so the ICL is likely to pick even the stupid players of BD like HAbibul Bashar
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Old February 3, 2009, 09:05 PM
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money talks here.. if BCB can't make any money from ICL why would they bother? those players had damn good reason to leave their country and again it was about money.. you tell me why we're so poor? when you have big family to support and you're out of form... that could be real disaster...
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Old February 3, 2009, 10:08 PM
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No,ICL players should not be banned.We can't afford to lose any players at this stage.My reasons... Sakib(don't ban him because he's world's best all rounder).Tamim(only good opener BD has).Ashraful(Can afford to lose him but who will take over captaincy?).Mashrafe(Best pacer and we need him badly in the team).Get my point?
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I know if the players go to IPL,they can't play for BD for a while but if you ban them,they can't play for years and whats going to happen in those years?Who will be the captain?Everyone else in the team is too young to be captain.We can replace Mashrafe with Rubel and Mahbubul but Who will replace Sakib?You can replace Tamim with Junaid and Imrul,but they probably won't do as well as if Tamim was there.
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If anyone can create tournaments that will take such revenue like ICL does, any board will have problem to find sponsors. IPL may have been a success, but India is 70% market for cricket revenues. Other boards will have much harder time. Also, the national board maintains calender so there is no conflict, but a 3rd party tournament will create conflict of interest who is paid much more playing tournaments like ICL. So ICC implied, as long as that country board allows it, its okey, but if it does not allow, its illegal to play in those tournaments.

Pakistan board banned its players based on that, and now awaiting clarification from ICC on this. If ICC has no problem, then PCB will lift the ban and many other countries, including Bangladesh may follow. But untill its clear, boards can not risk breaking ICC policy.

If you feel, even if the policy stays such and BCB should still let them play in domestic leagues, that also creates problem, as more players may go to ICL, as they will only give up right to play for the national team, but can still use BCB facilities and play local cricket and make money. And we will end up with weaker and weaker national team.

So at this point, we should keep banning them untill ICC changes its stand.
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exactly my point. they left by free will for money and left their country. thats their choice and they dont deserve another chance.
wth? u r thinking in one side way.......if a bd player gets offer from a english county team with high salaries( khawa thaka free, gari bari free)..and that guy left the country to play county cricket...what u gonna say that? county legal? icl illegal?

if u think in another way, ICL is just the hindi version of 20-20 county cricket..icl got problems with bcci, not icc.....ei simple beparta na bhuje apnara jodi bolen icl nishiddho league...tatea bhoja jachhe amader desh koto unnotomaner......
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Yesterday on ZeeSports they had a quite a long interview with Shahreer Nafees and his wife; in English produced by ZeeSports. It was kind of get to know Nafees and his wife. Nafees' wife talked about lot of things about how they met each other as well as life as a cricketer's wife. She speaks quite good english, better than Nafees I would say.

The thing that pissed me off is when Nafees said: "ICL is the best the thing that has ever happened to me!"

Playing for BD should be the best thing that has ever happened to you.
I wanted to see Nafees back in the national team and open the innings in all version with Tamim but I have changed my mind after reading this post by Nasif bhai (in the ICL sub forum).

He shouldn't be anywhere near the national team again. We don't need players who sell their souls for money.
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wth? u r thinking in one side way.......if a bd player gets offer from a english county team with high salaries( khawa thaka free, gari bari free)..and that guy left the country to play county cricket...what u gonna say that? county legal? icl illegal?

if u think in another way, ICL is just the hindi version of 20-20 county cricket..icl got problems with bcci, not icc.....ei simple beparta na bhuje apnara jodi bolen icl nishiddho league...tatea bhoja jachhe amader desh koto unnotomaner......
Naved read Mahmood bhai's post few posts above yours. He explained it nicely.
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If you feel, even if the policy stays such and BCB should still let them play in domestic leagues, that also creates problem, as more players may go to ICL, as they will only give up right to play for the national team, but can still use BCB facilities and play local cricket and make money. And we will end up with weaker and weaker national team.

So at this point, we should keep banning them untill ICC changes its stand.
beofre icl/ipl..what was it? county cricket! right? players from different countries go to england, and play county their....they still use their board's facilities...but now, only few percent of in'tl players are interested about county....players now look for icl/ipl.......if ecb had problems with county league...so u gonna ban the county? i don't think so....the only decision maker is icc...if they say yes, then it's yes, if they say no, then it's no..if ecb did that, then other players from other could play county, but the players from england couldn't play county.....so bcci banned icl, that means only indians players can't play icl, if they play, they will be banned....players from other countries will not be banned, because they are not the part of bcci....icc is the main controller of all the cricket boards...it's like u can ban ur own country players, but u can't ban other foreign players....u don't have rights to do that...icc does
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I think that it is shameful that BCB bowed down to India to ban these players for 10 years. It should have been 5 yrs. What is india doing in return to help BD cricket? So far I have not heard of anything. Look at the cheap price they have placed on the IPL auction of Sakib, Ash, Mash and Tamim. Players who are not that good from SL, WI, SA, England and Australia are going at a higher price. This is a real mockery.
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