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Old May 28, 2017, 06:50 AM
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Bangladeshis are just ungrateful people.
Someone already shared stats that Mash hs been one of our top wicket taker still people question his plce based on a warm up match.
Emotional fools.
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Old May 28, 2017, 10:19 AM
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Bangladeshis are just ungrateful people.
Someone already shared stats that Mash hs been one of our top wicket taker still people question his plce based on a warm up match.
Emotional fools.
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Old May 28, 2017, 10:23 AM
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^^I think you're sounding emotional in mash's defence. Making general judgments about Bangladeshis of 160-170 mill being ungrateful and emotional fools. Yes, some are emotionals, as with any nations. Ungrateful? Really, Only proper greatfulness you truely show, in life is to Allah (swt). And, to any human good work, favours given to you or in this case BD cricket? - Yes, we credit them, appreciate them, respect them but not dwell on their good works in awe for life!!!.

If you look back at the complaints properly, no one is talking about regarding his bowling early on, the issue is when he keeps bowling after 40th, at the death, he lost BD many games. Yet, he learns not. The issue is his ego, he can't make no excuses that it didn't happen in the past with him. As a bowler and captain, he is fine, but his best bowling comes when he bowls in at his first spell and all spells prior 40th over but at the death he figures go dramatically ultra poor. So, why the man has not understood the need of him to stop being over egotistic and keep bowl himself at the death where he literally s.cks??
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Old May 28, 2017, 11:04 AM
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Okay lets forget the complaints for the moment and back our captain and our team. Hope they somehow save our face by competing
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Old May 28, 2017, 11:07 AM
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Yeah, we do owe Mash all the support in this tournament. Tough challenges ahead. Better to get behind him and the team.
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Old May 28, 2017, 11:32 AM
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If you look back at the complaints properly, no one is talking about regarding his bowling early on, the issue is when he keeps bowling after 40th, at the death, he lost BD many games. Yet, he learns not. The issue is his ego, he can't make no excuses that it didn't happen in the past with him. As a bowler and captain, he is fine, but his best bowling comes when he bowls in at his first spell and all spells prior 40th over but at the death he figures go dramatically ultra poor. So, why the man has not understood the need of him to stop being over egotistic and keep bowl himself at the death where he literally s.cks??
If you look back at the complaints people are asking him to retire for his performance in a practice match

In this game taskin was getting battered and there was shafiul, so he had to bowl himself at the death, maybe you are forgetting our past, sure he got battered at the death all the time, but he was still arguably the best we had because we were so poor, and when Rubel mustafizur is playing and taskin isn't on his first game of the series mash doesn't bowl at the death

Here he did, because they were not there, maybe he also did because he is practicing just incase he has to in a real match

He hasn't bowled much at the death when there were other options available

Bashing him over a practice match is beyond sense, forget bashing, asking him to retire over a practice match? With this much emotion the lot asking for his head sound like Pakistan fans when they get over emotional
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Old May 28, 2017, 12:54 PM
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people with short term memories need to look not so far back but just 1 game before against New Zealand... just go and look how many runs he gave in 3 overs he bowled during the last 10 overs. He was bowling against the like of Neesham, Taylor, Munro...

Just stop guys... some of u guys need to shut up and watch the game... you guys are like those annoying ones in the crowd who talks the talk and pisses everyone off with their needless commentaries
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Old May 28, 2017, 01:01 PM
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People are overblowing the cynics, so far all I'm seeing is call for retirement after Champions Trophy and he shouldnt bowl beyond the 45th overs.

These arent terrible comments.
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Old May 28, 2017, 01:58 PM
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In that sense, all our fast bowlers should retire after CT except Musta. Mash comes in and does his job despite his limitations. He has been our best bowler in the last 12 months with a healthy average and econ rate. Sure his batting is nowhere near consistent but he was never supposed to be an allrounder for us. If our specialist batsman can't do their job then how can we except him to save our ***?

Not to mention that all these reactions are after a mere practice match.
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Old June 5, 2017, 12:42 PM
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Time to move on. Whatever inspiration factor Mash had, it's not working on the team anymore. BCB should arrange a farewell match for him in the next home series, and move on to start building up the team for WC'19 under a new captain.
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Old June 5, 2017, 12:48 PM
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Yep. It's not his fault, not blaming him. But can't carry a half fit player around for long. He served his nation superbly, fought like a tiger despite 7-10 career ending injuries, now he has to think about his young family and move on.

Brilliant servant to Bangladesh cricket. A Proud Bangladeshi. Played with his heart out.

In life like every good things comes to an end, at some point. Now, it's time for someone else to, take it from here on, build towards 2019 WC and 2020 World T20. Need new fresh leadership, newer more eager plans to keep getting better, and develop more the brand of cricket which Mash started off.


Thanks Mash. Good luck for the future, in advance. Salam! Mr Bangladesh 🇧🇩

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Old June 5, 2017, 01:07 PM
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still the best bowler today....nuff said
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Old June 5, 2017, 01:13 PM
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.... its not only him.....he is responsible for keeping too many senior players regardless of their current form.... He is currency a one legged fighter no doubt with very colorful past record, but I am early waiting for his retirement at this point. Only then will will see few more young players in the team.
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Old June 5, 2017, 01:20 PM
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here we go.. the senior vs junior talk again...

Is Soumya performing better then Tamim?
Is Shabbir performing better then Riyad?
Is Mosaddek performing better then Shakib?

The big fat answer is NO! There is a reasn why Mash defends his senior players. Last time I checked, its one or more of the Tamim-Mush-Riyad-Shak combo that wins us games,,, then come talk about bringing young players into the side.
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Old June 5, 2017, 01:25 PM
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Any other half decent team would've forced him to retire right after 15 world Cup.

Subcontinental players never retires on their own. Papon needs to act here. This CT should be his last tournament as a player.
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Old June 5, 2017, 03:11 PM
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people with short term memories need to look not so far back but just 1 game before against New Zealand... just go and look how many runs he gave in 3 overs he bowled during the last 10 overs. He was bowling against the like of Neesham, Taylor, Munro...

Just stop guys... some of u guys need to shut up and watch the game... you guys are like those annoying ones in the crowd who talks the talk and pisses everyone off with their needless commentaries
I want Mashrafee to retire... not because of his stats or what he is doing, but simply because there are better more attacking bowlers that we have in Bangladesh.

Taskin might give away 80 runs in 10 overs in the same game as Mash gives 45 runs... but for me I would always pick Taskin because he is more attacking, he has more penetration and he can be lethal .. with Mash , he can at best do some containment at the best of situation and may pick up odd wickets.

There was a similar discussion when Razzaq was around... he was played for years passed his prime and for no reason. We missed the best years of Arafat sunny because our selectors wont drop razzaq.
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Old June 5, 2017, 03:19 PM
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Mashrafee is at a point where if he try to extend his career in the national team, he is going hurt not only his legacy, but also the team.

I think its better for both (team and him) to consider retiring this year.
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Old June 5, 2017, 03:31 PM
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Not only his bowling, his batting these days is so poor. He was a bowler who can bat, but these days even specialist tail-enders like Rubel and Fizz are more reliable than him.
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Old June 6, 2017, 12:31 PM
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Mash is looking absolutely clueless this tourney from warm up matches till now. Anyone else feel the same?

Btw, this is besides my other points about him, that your captain should be one of the best players in your team, you cannot be held together by tape and still ball, especially in the end etc etc

This, this is something else, more abstract than grounded in reason. His head just seems somewhere else. Thinking about retirement I hope.
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Old June 6, 2017, 12:35 PM
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Mash is looking absolutely clueless this tourney from warm up matches till now. Anyone else feel the same?

Btw, this is besides my other points about him, that your captain should be one of the best players in your team, you cannot be held together by tape and still ball, especially in the end etc etc

This, this is something else, more abstract than grounded in reason. His head just seems somewhere else. Thinking about retirement I hope.
He's not the fittest this tournament, even by his standard
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Old June 6, 2017, 01:08 PM
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Btw, this is besides my other points about him, that your captain should be one of the best players in your team, you cannot be held together by tape and still ball, especially in the end etc etc
Only if that person has leadership quality. If he can inspire others to perform better. Perform with the team goals in mind. Best player not always makes the best captain. Tons of examples.
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This, this is something else, more abstract than grounded in reason. His head just seems somewhere else. Thinking about retirement I hope.
His head could be somewhere else (family was in hospital recently).

However, he did rotate his bowlers extremely well in the last game. There wasn't much bite in bowling unit to purchase a wicket on this track where Warner and Smith looked to consolidate rather than impose will.
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Old June 6, 2017, 03:44 PM
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I really don't understand the fuss about his fitness. He is fit to play and perform regularly.

Agree it or not he is still the best consistent bowler we have after Fizz, both in terms of economy and wickets.

He still has 2/3 years left in his career as a top performer. No point in shouting without any proper justification.
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Old June 7, 2017, 12:40 AM
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Experience Counts.He needs to say atleast for another 5 to 6 months.
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Old June 7, 2017, 12:53 AM
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Agree with Warwolf, rinathq. behind Mash 100% despite his recent selection/captaincy blunders. Mashrafee not too long ago took a 4 wicket haul against England and scored valuable runs with the bat. Let Mash retire when he wants to.
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Old June 7, 2017, 02:56 AM
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And Mash has never looked this fit tbh and has not gone this long without an injury. He has played in Lanka then played DPL, then played the Irish tour and in fact has been the busiest seamer of the lot and still bowling full quotas and i have seen him bowl mid 130s delivery as recent as yesterday.... So fitness issue thats being raised is BS.

On performance, well he is picked up 1 less wicket then Fizz having played 1 less games. He has more maiden overs under his belt compared to Fizz. So safe to say, he has been performing on par with Fizz.. rest are history.. so if he should retire based on performance, well I guess we only have 1 seamer in the side because rest stand no chance
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