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Old March 11, 2009, 06:42 PM
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Default To tour or not to tour Pakistan in near future?

This dilemma will remain as a question in the minds of all international cricket-playing nations for some time.

But the reality is that the recent terror attack on the Lankan cricket team in Pakistan was intelligently and productively premeditated for the purpose of anhilating international cricket from Pakistan for indefinitely and thus isolate them from playing international cricket at home and of course to defame and stigmatize the Zardari government. Consequently, the terrorists have escaped with comprehensive success by whitewashing the international cricket series in Pakistan by leaving the international cricket shot dead at it doorsteps. Result: Pakistan lose playing international cricket from home, terrorists win.

In contrary to the terror attacks on the Lankan team in Pakistan, when Mumbai was under siege, simultaneously, England were touring India but cut short their trip as a result of the attacks. But back in England, the ECB issued a statement "At this unfortunate time, we stand shoulder to shoulder by India and as a result of the terror attacks in Mumbai, if we don't return and complete the series, then the terrorists win and we lose." England went back after a short while and completed the series amid tight security.

Hence, I believe there were serious lapses and loopholes in the security provided by Pakistan to Sri Lankan team and consequently the terrorists exploited that. But in the future if Pakistan reviews all the security thoroughly and gives an international cricket team presidential-style security then I don't see a reason why other nations should not tour Pkistan. Although it is paramount that one should pay careful attention to its welfare, security and life, however one should also keep in mind that death is inevitably imminent and can happen anywhere, anytime at its appointed time.

As a Muslim, one should never say I will not come here or go there fearing death, but rather one should be coming here and going there with precautionary measures and if Allah willing, death comes, it comes. For example, I might not go to Pakistan and watch cricket there in case of I get attacked by terrorist and get killed. In contrary, I might be watching cricket from the comfort of my own safety and security in Sher-e- Bangla Stadium. A player may be going for a six and the ball hits me and thus I could die from that hit.

Therefore, as a Muslim cricket nation, I believe in near future, if Pakistan can assure us the precautionary security measures then we should tour Pakistan. If we do then the terrorists lose but our faith, belief and of course the cricket wins.
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Old March 11, 2009, 09:41 PM
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mashallah brother! you are right absolutly! today afghanistan team come to pakistan to play and practice. they say same thing - we muslims dont fear death! only fear Allah! Bangaldesh team should come too - in fect Pakistan should arrange three way muslim tournamant.
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Old March 11, 2009, 09:43 PM
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Therefore, as a Muslim cricket nation, I believe in near future, if Pakistan can assure us the precautionary security measures then we should tour Pakistan. If we do then the terrorists lose but our faith, belief and of course the cricket wins.
Hmmm....out of the closet....I always suspected that our team was kind of a a non-vegetarian cricket nation....
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Old March 11, 2009, 10:12 PM
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I think being sentimental and sympathetic is necessary, but I would not want our national players to lose their lives over some terrorists' twisted agendas.
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Old March 11, 2009, 11:51 PM
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Therefore, as a Muslim cricket nation, I believe in near future, if Pakistan can assure us the precautionary security measures then we should tour Pakistan. If we do then the terrorists lose but our faith, belief and of course the cricket wins.
I always thought cricket has no religion!
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Old March 12, 2009, 12:38 AM
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Not to tour. No-brainer.
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Old March 12, 2009, 01:00 AM
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in fect Pakistan should arrange three way
Now, thats just wrong in so many levels.....
i'd hate to be the middle one..

btw...khamba koi, khamba??
this is definitely a khamba question.

my answer is dead right NO.
I wont even send a Bangladesh Fokir team to World Begging Championship in Karachi.
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Old March 12, 2009, 01:47 AM
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Old March 12, 2009, 01:48 AM
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no team probably won't even consider sending their players to pakistan specially after that incident with the srilankan team..the sooner pcb works everything out with the neutral venue the better it is for pakistan cricket..
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Old March 12, 2009, 02:07 AM
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I'm sympathetic to Pak cricket but matters of life and death do not deserve to be judged by heart. Being a muslim doesn't mean one is bulletproof. We must use reason and caution. We don't want to see our cricketers (stupid as they are) to get hurt or worse die. There are other ways of showing sympathy to Paki's in their moment of need. If the terrorists got the upperhands in Pak dynamics, let's send an Army deployment. But not my boys.

Or we can introduce the idea of "Crossfire" to them.

Lastly, please don't cite England's tour of India as a reference. In india, terrorists massacared for more than 2 days in the very hotel the team was staying and yet not one cricketer was hurt. It's not the same as Pakistan shootout. Clearly cricketers are targeted in Pakistan. No amount of security is enough in their anymore, because evidently the terrorists are better trained and better equiped.

Nobody will willingly put their heads in the noose and it's foolish to even expect it.
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Old March 12, 2009, 04:04 AM
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Even Pak players and management knows and believes that playing in Pak is very very risky...so I think that our choice should be clear....BTW, I would have loved to see a poll with this thread......it would be like this-
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Old March 12, 2009, 06:23 AM
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Not to tour. Being muslim has nothing to do with it. In fact, Id say more muslims died of terror attacks than others. I mean the police who died to save the SL team were muslim. Did the terrorists spare them... no!
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Old March 12, 2009, 06:41 AM
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noooooooo....
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Old March 12, 2009, 09:23 AM
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Going to Pakistan?
Still too unstable condition to risk our players' lives

Playing at Home againt Pakistan?
After Pilkhana incident, if JMB/Jamat connection is found and in top of it if Saka/ISI link is indentified, then it will be too volatile situation for PAK team to visit bangladesh.

Neutral Place

Its a possibility

I say wait and see and let things cool down in both ends.
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Old March 12, 2009, 09:30 AM
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Well put...Fazal mamu.

I don't think even Pakistan will host any nation at this time. It's a no-brainer.
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Old March 12, 2009, 11:13 AM
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mashallah brother! you are right absolutly! today afghanistan team come to pakistan to play and practice. they say same thing - we muslims dont fear death! only fear Allah! Bangaldesh team should come too - in fect Pakistan should arrange three way muslim tournamant.

are u part of horkatul jihad team or laskar e tayeba team?
who will be the winner--- if they play against each other?
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Old March 12, 2009, 11:18 AM
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dont even think about touring pakistan, its the main play ground for all the terrorists at this moment. How could u even think about going to pakistan and play there? may be after 3 years, if situation calm down, we can think about it but not sure.
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Old March 12, 2009, 11:50 AM
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Playing at Home againt Pakistan?
After Pilkhana incident, if JMB/Jamat connection is found and in top of it if Saka/ISI link is indentified, then it will be too volatile situation for PAK team to visit bangladesh.
Mamu, as you know, the govt is already claiming they have found JMB link to BDR incident.

What should we do now???
continue with the postpone????
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Old March 12, 2009, 03:10 PM
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God I hate it when members bring religion into sport.

There is no way our players should dare set foot in Pakistan.
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Old March 12, 2009, 03:12 PM
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playing in pakistan is like putting the boys' lives at risk
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Old March 12, 2009, 03:19 PM
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Mamu, as you know, the govt is already claiming they have found JMB link to BDR incident.

What should we do now???
continue with the postpone????
If they make the Saka/ISI connection, then I say definitely no. If PAK team gets Public petuni, that will be bad PR for Bangladesh Cricket.

Even now with the possible JMB connection, I say don't do it now as you may already know Government already canceled Army Parade in 26th March.

Things are very dicy now a days in BD. Ek dikey 'Coup' er chance onno dikey arekta attack-er (by the same culprits) bhoy.

If you ask me, its better to be safe than sorry.
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Old March 19, 2009, 01:15 PM
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Go play in a third country, if you have to, where law and order situation is better and security is tighter. We should not put our asses on the line for the good of the "muslim brothers". What happened to the brotherhood in 71, during the language movement? I am sure you heard the story about Jinnah saying "Urdu and Urdu will be the only national language of Pakistan" at the steps of Dhaka University. We should only act in a manner that is prudent for us.
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Old March 19, 2009, 01:31 PM
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I seriously don't get where religion comes into cricket. Why do we have to complicate every single thing in life like this. We have to have politics, religion and all these stuff which are not even related to them. Since when did sports have anything to do with religion or people's race or anything like that.
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Old March 19, 2009, 04:52 PM
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no way... not in the near future atleast... i dont want to risk our players lives...

in a neutral venue... maybe... if security is good enough....
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but where do we get these 'neutral venues'? dubai? that place got even worse security issues. if we find a neutral venue, we'll have to probably build all new stadiums
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