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Old March 10, 2009, 07:43 PM
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Default Twenty20 Draft Team Make up

Inspired by the Countdown to the Showdown vs. India on Forum Menu

You May not like it, you may love it but You have to Admit T20 is a very Unique Format, On Despite what some may think we suck at this format, we have a few players who can adapt to the fast nature of this format and then we have about 5 fliers who just make up the XI.

Our Ineptitude in this format was shown in choking away the gimmie win vs. South Africa, Where Failed to Win the Match only requiring 67 of 54 with 9 wickets in Hand.

I even have Trouble Selecting an XI that I would Trust not just to Win a Match or two but Have a real Run at the Trophy.

Tamim Iqbal
??????
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammed Ashraful
??????
??????
??????
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Syed Rasel

I got 6 players that I'd give 1st Class to Heathrow in June and I have a feeling who the other 4 is going to be and know Management is dumb enough put them in the squad, If those 4 players get on the squad I bet we Thumped by Ireland like this Ireland v Bangladesh A. There is only 1 player out of the 5 question marks that I think has some promise in this Format and that is Naeem but I'm on the fence.

Of the 6 players I would Trust, I don't think none of them need any questioning why they would make the squad. Of the 5 Question Marks this Is Who I think Management is going to select.

Naeem Islam: I wouldn't have a problem with him in the squad, His Bowling is a Plus and I think He has ability to take it the Opposition.

Imrul Kayes/Juniad Siddique
Mushiqur Rahim
Raqibul Hasan
Mahmudullah
Mehrab Hossian Jr

Twenty 20 isn't for everyone and It's not for the above mentioned. Besides Mithin Ali for Mushifiq I don't know anyone else who is going to replace the question marks. I kind of do but I wouldn't sit pretty with the Board of Directors of our Cricket Board and that of Indian one as well.

I'd rather ask people with knowledge of our Domestic League to pick put the Hard Hitters. Who would make your T20 XI?

Our Board Need to Bold and Experiment with players with High Hand Eye Coordination

Siddons Also Said that if the Pak Tour is Cancelled that they would fly to England Earlier and play a few matches. The Only advantage we have is that we will play all our Warm Ups and Group Matches in one Venue (Trent Bridge)

We have Warm up Matches vs Australia and Sri Lanka on the 1st and 4th.
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Old March 10, 2009, 08:09 PM
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My dream team for T20:

Tamim with carte blanche for total full-blooded cold calculated murder n onslaught with
Nazim
Kapali brutality continues
Sakib if we are down none for 3, he can level the wheel
Mashrafe if carnage continued further it's aggravated by his cameo
Ash like either wave/electron he can either calm nerves and play slow match or if need be stabbings
Mushfiq if things are still wary he can further consolidate
Rasel meh kept as bowling thrill
Razzak either slog, mainly kept as bowler
wildcard slot *
Naeem Islam
guilty of this team being too much batsman oriented
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Old March 10, 2009, 08:13 PM
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My dream team for T20:

Tamim with carte blanche for total full-blooded cold calculated murder n onslaught with
Nazim
Kapali brutality continues
Sakib if we are down none for 3, he can level the wheel
Mashrafe if carnage continued further it's aggravated by his cameo
Ash like either wave/electron he can either calm nerves and play slow match or if need be stabbings
Mushfiq if things are still wary he can further consolidate
Rasel meh kept as bowling thrill
Razzak either slog, mainly kept as bowler
wildcard slot *
Naeem Islam
guilty of this team being too much batsman oriented
this would be like dream fantasy draft team
just need one more bowler maybe shuvo or rubel
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Old March 10, 2009, 08:14 PM
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oh naeem can drop out for aftab...totally forgot about him
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Old March 10, 2009, 08:17 PM
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Nazimuddin? Mushifiq?

Really?

Thats the whole point of Discussion ... If we were allowed to bring certain players who are under contract with Zee Tv than the line up looks like this

Tamim
Abir
Aftab
Ash
Shakib
Ollie
Dhiman
Rafique
Razzak
Mashrafe
Rasel
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Old March 10, 2009, 08:37 PM
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this might be a controversial post but this is who i see as potentials for the t20 squad (there are a lot):

- mithun ali: big hitter, keeper, fairly consistent
- rony talukder: fairly consistent, reasonable strike rates though not great strike rates
- naeem islam: good fielder, bowls, decent batsman who has the potential to hit the best bowlers
- nazmus sadat: hard hitter, fairly consistent in list A cricket, can chip in with the ball
- nazmul hossain milon: can score extremely quickly, bowls a bit as well
- riyad: has potential to be a reasonable hitter, bowls
- raqibul: he's the most consisten ODI batsman atm so hard to leave him out
- rubel hossain: has the pace no one else really has
- shuvo: best domestic spinner this season, can bat a bit
- nasir hossain: had a pretty good list A NCL season with both bat and ball
- marshall ayub: someone who can bat and bowl a bit, bowls leggies which is rare for BD
- shamsur rahman: not the quickest scorer but been one of the most consistent in the DPL this season
- imrul: same as shamsur rahman
- nadif chowdhury: at one stage was a big hitter, was ok in the NCL list A's this season
- imtiaz hossain: had a great NCL list A strike rate this season, though not consistent in the runs
- nabil samad: been one of the best spinners all season
- sajidul islam: has a bit of pace to him as well as swing, can hold a bat at times
- delwar hossain: bowled pretty well this season, bats a bit
- NI: did a decent job the NCL this season
- saqlain sajib: this guy is always in the wickets, didn't hear of him until this season and am surprised, good economy to

certainties (should be):

- tamim
- ash
- shakib
- mash
- rasel

unsure:

- rahim: on style it should be mithun, on experience it should be rahim, maybe both can go?
- razzak: depends on where he's at, i want to know he'll be effective with a remodelled aciton before he's back in the national team
- junaid
- robin, robiul, subashis, ziaur rahman

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Old March 10, 2009, 09:53 PM
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Best t20 team for BD would be:
1.tamim
2.SN
3.Aftab
4.Ash
5.Shakib
6.Dhiman
7.Naeem
8.Mash
9.Rasel (of WC07)
10.Rafique
11.Razzak
12th man: Mushfiq

Best team available:
1.Tamim
2.Zunaed
3.Ash
4.Mithun/Mushy
5.Shakib
6.Rakibul
7.Mash
8.Naeem
9.Shuvo
10.Rubel
11.Razzak if available, if not then Rasel
12th man: Imrul
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Old March 10, 2009, 11:01 PM
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My dream team for T20:

Tamim with carte blanche for total full-blooded cold calculated murder n onslaught with
Nazim
Kapali brutality continues
Sakib if we are down none for 3, he can level the wheel
Mashrafe if carnage continued further it's aggravated by his cameo
Ash like either wave/electron he can either calm nerves and play slow match or if need be stabbings
Mushfiq if things are still wary he can further consolidate
Rasel meh kept as bowling thrill
Razzak either slog, mainly kept as bowler
wildcard slot *
Naeem Islam
guilty of this team being too much batsman oriented
Lawl....some dream team - you don't even have Aftab in it.
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Old March 10, 2009, 11:16 PM
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Lawl....some dream team - you don't even have Aftab in it.
yup you got me.
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Nazimuddin? Mushifiq?

Really?

Thats the whole point of Discussion ... If we were allowed to bring certain players who are under contract with Zee Tv than the line up looks like this

Tamim
Abir
Aftab
Ash
Shakib
Ollie
Dhiman
Rafique
Razzak
Mashrafe
Rasel
Hey im the team, what a pleasant surprise
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Old March 11, 2009, 12:05 AM
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1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Mithun Ali (wk)
4. Mohammed Ashraful
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Mahmudullah/Nayeem Islam/someone new
7. Rony Talukdar
8. Mashrafe Mortaza
9. Abdur Razzak
10. Mahbubul Alam
11. Syed Rasel
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bangladesh U-19 should give them a run for their money..lets put them in...afterall the pak newbies had their lunch handed to them by the BD U-19s earlier
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Tamim
Zunaed
Mithun Ali
Raqibul
Ashraful
Shakib
Naeem
Abdur Razzak
Mashrafe
Rubel Hossain/Mahbubul Alam
Syed Rasel

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Old March 11, 2009, 05:41 PM
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i'd be tempted to make a t20 team like this:

1 tamim
2 nazmus sadat
3 mithun ali
4 shakib
5 ashraful
6 raqibul
7 naeem
8 mash
9 shuvo
10 rubel/delwar/sajidul
11 rasel

i'm a bit hesitant on robin since he didn't do so well in his ODIs, good for tests though.
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i'd be tempted to make a t20 team like this:

1 tamim
2 nazmus sadat
3 mithun ali
4 shakib
5 ashraful
7 naeem
8 mash
9 shuvo
10 rubel/delwar/sajidul
11 rasel
skipped 6 gowza bhai
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Old March 11, 2009, 05:46 PM
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skipped 6 gowza bhai
with that team BD don't need a #6, joking, edited.
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Old March 11, 2009, 06:02 PM
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this bk's current best eligible BD 20/20 team:

1. tamim
2. mithun ali
3. marshall ayub
4. ashraful
5. shakib al-hasan
6. shamsur rahman shuvo
7. suhwardy. shuvo
8. mashrafee
9. razzak (hope his form's ok)
10. rubel hossain
11. nasir hossain or sajedul islam or mahbubul alam robin
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1 tamim iqbal
2 rony talukdar
3 mithun ali
4 shakib al hasan
5 rakibul hasan
6 mohammed ashraful
7 naeem islam
8 mashrafee mortaza
9 showrawardi shuvo
10 rubel hossain/sajidul islam
11 syed rasel
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Old March 11, 2009, 08:04 PM
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i thought about rony, shamsur, marshall and nasir but i'm not sure they score quick enough to get in ahead of some of the others e.g. nazmus sadat is fairly consistent in 50 over cricket, is a hard hitter and scores at a quicker rate more often, plus he can chip in with the ball if needed. a strike rate of 70+ is fine for 50 over cricket but in t20 cricket you really want players striking at 100+ and i think someone like nazmus sadat is more likely to do that as he's been striking quicker than the others over his career but still been pretty consistent. imtiaz hossain is another i thought about since he has a pretty good strike rate in limited overs cricket (well this season anyway) but he isn't consisent enough to get in purely on batting and i don't think his bowling would be needed.

nasir and marhsall have more of a chance because of their allround ability. but since they're both spinners i don't think they're needed since we already have shakib and naeem and ash can bowl a bit and with nazmus and shuvo the spin department would be covered.
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just because its T20 doesn't mean we have to have all hard hitters as our batsman...even in T20 it is important to take singles and let the other batsman have a go from one end..and we all know how hard it is for our batsmans to pick up singles...rakib may not be a hard hitting batsman but he's go the ablility to find the gap and take singles and rotate the strike..having him in the team will give us some balance in our middle order...
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just because its T20 doesn't mean we have to have all hard hitters as our batsman...even in T20 it is important to take singles and let the other batsman have a go from one end..and we all know how hard it is for our batsmans to pick up singles...rakib may not be a hard hitting batsman but he's go the ablility to find the gap and take singles and rotate the strike..having him in the team will give us some balance in our middle order...
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just because its T20 doesn't mean we have to have all hard hitters as our batsman...even in T20 it is important to take singles and let the other batsman have a go from one end..and we all know how hard it is for our batsmans to pick up singles...rakib may not be a hard hitting batsman but he's go the ablility to find the gap and take singles and rotate the strike..having him in the team will give us some balance in our middle order...
The type of player you were describing is Shahriar Nafees (Abir)

BTW; Tamim and the Other Opener (Whoever it was) did that vs Australia and killed all the moment from the get go.

That Type of Strategy puts way to much pressure on the Batsmen (The Commentary of that innings)

Rakib and the others lack class/talent what ever you wanna call it at this stage of there career. They can't pick out singles, they get out to balls down legside that should be smashed for 6, they don't play with confidence or a positve mindset, I see look at the scorecards in Dhaka League and I see there Strike rates are less than 80% and they're coming in during the death overs.

I bet If we took Current National teamers and gave them 10 balls that could be run down 3rd man for a single the % rate would be close to 40%.

I'd Rather play with the Approach we did vs South Africa ... Still I don't Whats Wrong with Playing 17 overs @ 10 runs?

The 2 T20's vs SA we tried to consolidate and we threw away a winning opportunities. We tried the Same thing vs Pakistan and it Lead to a Massive Collapse. If you start out strong the opposition will give you 6 singles.

How about a more recent example remember we tried to consolidate from the very beginning vs Sri Lanka in the reduced ODI game? and Tamim almost ran out the entire top Order? We can't even run between the wickets properly, Shakib came out and did the smart thing dispatching width balls into the gaps. Instead of Shoulder Arming it or doing this try to defend a ball that won't even touch the stumps, Juniad and Tamim do this all the time. You can only get the so called singles when field is spread out, else every shot you play is gonna straight to a fielder.

The T20's that we've won it's been go out and Smash the day lights out of the ball, NZ, WI, Kenya.

I don't wanna see the next version of Farhad or Riad (Who's Suited for Tests, Same goes for Tushar) in the T20 Squad better yet the ODI squad.
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bhaijan lomba ekta reply disen thike kintu ashol point tow poren nai..1) i was talking about middle order..why are you brining up tamim trying to take singles and putting up extra pressure...and that too is a diff case..they were trying to take singles during powerplay and not using the advantage of the field set up 2) in my 10 years of following cricket not once did i hear that taking singles puts extra pressure on batsman..3) rakib has played only 23 ODI matches in his career so far..and here you are already labeling him as class/talent less...4) since you brought up recent win against Srilanka..remember how ashraful batted in that match..i was talking about something along those lines..
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well ideally you'd have batsmen who can play in different gears so that they can play to the situation, failing that you then try to get the most consistent hard hitters/quick scorers, once you run out of those then you go to batsmen who don't score quite as quickly but are consistent. personally i think raqibul should be there as the main stabilising player but i guess you could go for someone like shamsur rahman, if situation requires then shakib can play a stabilising role then naeem or tamim (i know he tends to score in boundaries but he has the ability to take singles).

i mean are you going to pick a dravid for a t20 team over say a pietersen or a gilchrist? you'd have to be mad to do that, go with consistent hard hitters first then work out your team from there. like i said above i thought about imtiaz hossain because he was scoring quickly this season but consistency is also key and he lacks that thus he doesn't make the cut, i'd definitely pick a player like raqibul or shamsur over imtiaz hossain at this point.
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my team will be

tamim
rony talukder/junaed siddiqui
Mithun ali
rokibul
ashraful
sakib
mashrafe
najmul Hossain Milon
shuvo
rajjaq
rasel

reserve: rubel hossain, mahbubul robin, marshall ayub
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