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The strangest thing is that in the UK there around 500,000 Sylhetis living here, so we have the advantage to create a big media attention through demonstration next to the Parliament buildings, however the communities are divided in this issue which has become a political issue between AL and BNP. What we need is unity between both and see it as a natural issue, which correction will effect 50m people, then further effecting the whole of the country econimically. There is a demonstration to be held on Saturday front of the Indian embassy in London from 5PM, this is however organised by RESPECT, politically dividing.
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Just a notification, those living in the UK can join the protest on 12 June 2009 (Friday) from 15-17.00 outside the Indian Embassy, India House, Aldwych in Westminster. Those living outside the UK can also fly in for one day over in London to join if you wish  Or organise a demo at your hometown if you have the courage and determination to do so, for the right of your country. 
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Just a notification, those living in the UK can join the protest on 12 June 2009 (Friday) from 15-17.00 outside the Indian Embassy, India House, Aldwych in Westminster. Those living outside the UK can also fly in for one day over in London to join if you wish  Or organise a demo at your hometown if you have the courage and determination to do so, for the right of your country.
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What is the update of the protest?
Some rally alarming signs for us.
We really have to stand up and fight.
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June 14, 2009, 02:28 PM
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What is the update of the protest?
Some rally alarming signs for us.
We really have to stand up and fight.
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well unfortunately a few hundreds turned up, although organised by the Greater Sylhet Council, it was led by RESPECT such as Abjol Miah and George Galloway, which might have been the reason for the short turnout, because many Bengalis are part of the Labour Party. This should have been organised by Justice 4 Bangladesh and be non-political.
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June 15, 2009, 03:57 AM
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well unfortunately a few hundreds turned up, although organised by the Greater Sylhet Council, it was led by RESPECT such as Abjol Miah and George Galloway, which might have been the reason for the short turnout, because many Bengalis are part of the Labour Party. This should have been organised by Justice 4 Bangladesh and be non-political.
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Hhmm....politics is everywhere. This politics somehow hold us to come under one Umbrella even in issues of National Interest.
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June 15, 2009, 05:54 AM
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We have to think something counter to save ourselve. Because if we were in a position of India, We would do the same. Example: Kaptai Project in Karnafuly River in Hill Tracks.
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Sylhet Hawor, a big source for fish in BD will soon be vanished. I don't need any environmental study to state that. Just from experience from Farakka is enough.
Did you guys not hear what Pronob Mukharji said? It is not a matter of if there will be a damn at Tipai mukh. That is a foregone conclusion. It will happen with or without BD's approval. The question is (there is no question actually) when will the people of BD accept the fact. he added this project was planned long time back.
So guys, get on with the reality.
Now add to the equation. Border guard problem happens for no reason? Our multiple ministers says to the media "Dekhina ki hoi. Agey Badh hok." What insight elected Govt with 92% vote casted have. Fensidil factory at the borders why?
We the poeple elect (or Moin U appoints) jono nentri and cabinets and MPs, who can not see the future. May be refuses to see the future. Always brings the past. Major dissaster ahead.
Two wrong can not be right Rabz. Just because the dog bites (Shanti bahini) we can't bite back the dog (Ulfa). Yes internal chaos can delay the project. But just like Republican or Democrats here when it comes to National concern (Israel) they have the same policy. Congress, BJP, XYZ they dont care about BD people or environment.
When our own is ready to give full access to the Indian trucks to our highways and make few bucks, when the foreign policy is made in Delhi, what more one can expect? Our loving big brother plans way ahead. Our leloved politicians can't even see past our elected terms.
India would love to see BD become a state like Nepal, Bhutan or even Sikim. That is where their interest lies. They want to sell their products here without taxation but not do the other way.
What lovely politicians and advisors we have. Where is HereWeGo? I was hoping see few comments from him on this issue.
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We have to think something counter to save ourselve. Because if we were in a position of India, We would do the same. Example: Kaptai Project in Karnafuly River in Hill Tracks.
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??? And Kornafuly river goes to bay of Bengal. Not in another country. There is a international law that you can't disturb the flow of the river at a certain distance when the river flows through another country. This example is not correct and can not be compared. More over this power project has not changed the rivers course. On the other hand Tipai mukh Dam will change the course of the Surma and the Meghna. Do you know the environmental impact our next generation is going to face?
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You are senior bhai here. If I had said what you have said, "lathi ektao matite porto na". The BD people are as blind as the party people they support.
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June 15, 2009, 11:37 AM
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Mijan bhai, who was talking about just mere internal disturbance?
I had (still have) something bigger ideas in mind.
You may call it sinister, i call it survival.
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June 15, 2009, 11:24 PM
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Did you guys not hear what Pronob Mukharji said? It is not a matter of if there will be a damn at Tipai mukh. That is a foregone conclusion. It will happen with or without BD's approval. The question is (there is no question actually) when will the people of BD accept the fact. he added this project was planned long time back.
So guys, get on with the reality.
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well said. When our foriegn minister said that it would not be a problem and then retract by saying Parliamentary Committe would visit and then deceide what we should do. I lost all hope. Some of Indian Cheif Ministers have more guts then our minisiters (see Kavery Water Dispute) . I firmly belive that this is a puppet government of India. Don't forgot Pronab Mukharji has personal relationship with our PM and Dipu Moni has that with Sonia Gandhi. They would surely utilize those personal relationship to gain national interset and our puppets would sacrificafe national interest for the sake of personal interest
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June 16, 2009, 12:12 AM
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I am a bit surprised with the Bangladesh Media's activity on this issue. Not much newspapers are highlighting this issue and not making enough reports on this to create awareness to general public. Some BNP supported newspapers are making news of it. Those newspapers don't have acceptability to general public and people take most of their news on political perspective.
Somehow not much attention is not given on this issue and Government's ignorance or silence is the main reason i think.
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June 16, 2009, 01:40 AM
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??? And Kornafuly river goes to bay of Bengal. Not in another country. There is a international law that you can't disturb the flow of the river at a certain distance when the river flows through another country. This example is not correct and can not be compared. More over this power project has not changed the rivers course. On the other hand Tipai mukh Dam will change the course of the Surma and the Meghna. Do you know the environmental impact our next generation is going to face?
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Yes I know the Environmental Impact (I am a graduate in Environmental Science, Major: Land & Water Resources Management). Thatâs why I said after considering everything We should think something counter for our country. We don't want Sylhet become another Rajshahi. The revenue we generate from Sylhet is 2nd highest earning source of our country (
Chittagong is 1st). The responsible persons (Parliament), who will basically negotiate with India regarding this will hardly think something for country. They will only do something to increase their vote bank. We are the only people who can think about country and can Invent/Discover something as counter of this Dam.
According to International law the amount of water will be based on the percentage of a particular river in the country. For example, If we get 40% of a river than we will get 40% of the total amount of water flow by that river (measuring unit "Cusec" [Cubic centimeter]).
When "Farakka" contract has been signed, India just did a diplomatic thing that they agreed to serve that amount of water (The percentage of Ganges we get as Padma). We are getting our amount. But that is not enough. Just like that if we have another contract like Farakka, We will definitely get that amount according to International law. But that is not enough for us.
When Kaptai project has been approved lots of tribal people was affected. After that we got the war with "Shanti Bahini". That's why I took the example. Everyone will think about their betterment. We should think for our betterment rather to blame someone else.
So, we need to have our process to protect ourselve.
N.B: The law consist some other article also. I talked about the main point only
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Bangladesh Zindabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you hate Tipaimukh dam, you are anti-Bangladeshi.
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Parliamentary team to visit Tipaimukh site
Dhaka, June 16 (bdnews24.com)âThe parliamentary panel on water resources ministry has decided to send a team to India to witness the construction of controversial Tipaimukh Dam in Bangladesh's upstream.
But the committee has yet to fix the date of the trip.
"A team of not more than 10 members, headed by the chairman of the parliamentary standing committee on water resources ministry, will go to India to witness the Tipaimukh project," Abdur Razzaq, the committee chairman, told reporters on Tuesday after the meeting at the parliament building.
"Two opposition MPs, Water Development Board officials and experts will be included in the team".
"We want to include some impartial experts," he said without defining who the "impartial" experts will be.
The chairman said they would send their recommendations to the prime minister's office for diplomatic contact. "Then the date will be fixed."
Razzaq, a former water resources minister, blamed the previous BNP-led government and its minister Hafiz Uddin Ahmed for "agreeing" with India on the Tipaimukh Dam.
"We have come to know that the hydro-electric project (Tipaimukh Dam) went ahead as per the discussion with the resolutions of joint river commission in New Delhi in 2003," Razzaq claimed.
"Then the water resources minister major Hafiz led the JRC talks," he said.
"They had said nothing then, (but) now he is very vocal.
"He could have informed the nation about the project at that time," said the chairman.
Razzaq said the Indian authorities were yet to start the implementation of the project.
"Any experts in the television channels say that they don't know about the project. But they talk against the project.
"I request all to not talk (on the issue) without studying about the same," he said.
The Indian government in 2003 initiated construction of the Tipaimukh Dam on Indian Borak river which has entered Bangladesh as the Surma, the sole source of bulk water going to hundreds of water bodies and rivers in the greater Sylhet region.
India is yet to provide Bangladesh information on the proposed dam on a common river despite Bangladesh's repeated request.
New Delhi says the project will not hamper Bangladesh water availability in the downstream.
Prime minister Sheikh Hasina last month announced that a parliamentary team would go to India to witness the controversial project.
The Indian authorities proposed Bangladesh sending a parliamentary team apparently to allay Dhaka's fear of environmental catastrophe in the Sylhet region.
Link: http://www.bdnews24.com/details.php?...d=87391&hb=top
Seems the team will be formed by people from various areas. That is good.
Hope the tour does not end up as a 5 star luxury government tour like a holiday. Hope we may see some results out of it.
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...and so the mud slinging continues.....
We all know what BNP did during their tenure...
what i'm interested to know is what this govt can do in the next 5.
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It is the we, the general people, who are liable for every thing. We already have been how dirty these politicians are. Yet we have elected the. Money talks in this country.
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They will go---->enjoy their tour---->Take lots of photograph---->Come Back---->Will tell, they solved the problem---->A contract will be signed between two government---->India will build their Dam---->Government will tell "We solved the problem, India will provide us proper water according to the contract (They did about Farakka)"---->This contract will be used as a success of this government during the election of 2014---->Our poor and illiterate people will believe that.
Real Fact: We will get another Rajshahhi in Future.
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Dhaka, Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 1:56am Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh yesterday assured Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina that New Delhi would not take any step regarding their planned Tipaimukh Dam that might affect the bilateral relations between Bangladesh and India.
Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina yesterday talks to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on the sidelines of the NAM summit in Egypt. Photo: PID
Hasina informed journalists accompanying her of the outcome of her meeting with Singh on the sidelines of the 15th Non-Aligned Movement Summit, reports UNB from Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt. Hasina said the friendly relations between the two countries would remain unaffected and the two countries would move forward maintaining their own dignities.
The prime minister had the meeting with her Indian counterpart at Jolie Ville Golf Resort meeting room on the sidelines of the NAM summit, mainly discussing issues of bilateral interest. The meeting took place at a time when there have been controversies in Bangladesh over the Tipaimukh dam planned by India on the common river Borak.
After the meeting with Manmohan, Hasina also had bilateral meetings with Chairman of Sate Council of Oman Yahya Mahood Al Moudhry and Filipino President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. Jordanian Prime Minister Nader AL Tahavi also had a bilateral meeting with Hasina when they discussed matters of mutual interest.
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Renewable thatâs what hydroelectric power does, thatâs the gift we receive from Kaptai, an environment friendly approach to generate energy. In terms of greenhouse effect and waste management it is much appreciable approach for an environmental scientist. Research has shown that there are drastic results caused by such dams likewise, flow rate changes, habitat conditions based on life cycles including human, and some long term effects if there are other projects nearby (which might be in another country, state up or downstream). The most common effects that are inevitable which is already experienced from Farakka are supersaturation, sedimentation, water level changes and increased erosion. Certain wildlife and fish species go down to extinction due to the adversity of such approach if not taken careful consideration to feed in and produce a check and balance which is very unlikely in an underdeveloped region. The possible man made post-conditions that may further ruin the fruition are worse irrigation may cause reduction in cultivation or change the cultivation cycle making the farmer more dependent on chemicals, loss of riparian zone (which we are most afraid of) causing traditional occupation of nearby habitat totally morphed into tropical opportunity based affecting the socio-economic condition causing new introduction of outsiders, and while it could be a blessing in a developed country can contribute to quite opposite which is most likely in the said region.
At NAM conference in Egypt the Prime Minister met the neighboring country chief to hear some satisfactory promises so she can sweeten her ears and let the reporters know to spread it allover the world that âyes, they decided not to do anything which will harm Bangladeshâ. How many times we have heard such nonsense? It has been proven fact that such hopeful words fly away into the reality of the life of the millions that get affected. The dam is a huge 1.35 billion USD project which is even criticized by the North Indian elite civilians,
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From India Namdingpou Kamei at E-Pao lists the losses and destruction this dam will bring to the local people.
# A total area of land 286.20 sq. km will be submerged forever.
# Barak waterfalls and Zeilad Lake, which are connected with the history of the Zeliangrong people, will be forever underwater and all folklores and legends will have no monuments' proof and it will become a make up story for the next generation.
# More than, 40,000 people will be rendered landless.
# Eight villages situated at the Barak Valley will be completely underwater.
# More than 90 villages mostly of Tamenglong district will be adversely affected.
# About 27,242 hectares of cultivable land will be lost. [..]
The Indian government has offered the Manipur state 10% free electricity (i.e. 40 MW) from the project in exchange of above.
The Hmar indigenous population of North East India fears that:
if the government plows ahead with its proposed dam âthousands of outsidersâ will come to settle in the area and as a result the Hmars will be exposed to changes like never before to new culture, economy and politics.
Dr. Soibam Ibotombi of Dept. of Earth Sciences, Manipur University says that the dam will be a geo-tectonic blunder of international dimensions:
The site selected for Tipaimukh project is one of the most active in the entire world, recording at least two major earthquakes of 8+ in the Reichter Scale during the past 50 years. The proposed Tipaimukh HEP is envisaged for construction in one of the most geologically unstable area as the proposed Tipaimukh dam axis falls on a âfault lineâ potentially active and possible epicenter for major earthquakes.
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Well with all my respect to the neighboring chief, I would say he is not the one who is going to analyse, supervise, decide or ask make shift whenever needed. The original designers, architects, engineers and local politicians are the main motivators who would be supervising this. Now it seems they are determined to build this and when they build this they would not do anything harmful to Bangladesh, then definitely somehow it will harm them. Who in the world does that?
The parliamentary committee is about to visit the site and as soon they agreed to it and after todayâs meeting I only see another Farakka is looming in the forehead of BD which would be coming in with effects in detriment in a geometrical ratio compared to current solemnity under the Hardinge bridge.
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Hillary may convey Dhaka's concern on Tipai to Indian PM
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Dhaka, Friday, July 17, 2009 - 1:36am US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton will discuss the Tipaimukh Dam issue with the Indian Prime Minister Dr Monmohan Singh during her ensuing India visit, reports ANA.
The decision was taken by the US Secretary State following her meeting with Congressman Joseph Crowley who requested the former first lady to raise the issue during her meeting with the Indian Prime Minister.
Crowley, who is also the chair of the Congressional Caucus on Bangladesh, apprised Mrs Clinton about the adverse affect the construction of the Dam will cause in Bangladesh.
Earlier several delegations from Bangladesh community, including one led by Dr Osman Faruk, met Crowley and urged him to request the Secretary of State to raise the Tipaimukh issue during her meeting with Singh.
The Bangladeshi delegations pointed out that a large part of Bangladesh would become a desert due to the adverse impact of the operation of the proposed dam, on river Barak at Tipaimukh area in the Monipur state of India near the north eastern Sylhet border.
An official of Crowley told ANA that though Mrs Clinton is not visiting Bangladesh this time she expressed her desire to visit Dhaka in near future. She also recalled her previous visit to Bangladesh along with her daughter.
-The Independent
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More intruders in Dhaka and the surroundings.
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I would happily sign up to go to war with india/blow up indian dams to defend my homeland, sylhet!
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We should fight for our right. We just can't ignore Tipaimukh dam project and let India built this. This is the time we all Bangladeshi should unite and force India to prevent this destructive project. No matter what religion, region and political groups we are belong .United we stand, divided we fall. Itâs better to die once than dyeing slowly with pain. As great hero Tipu Sultan said âIt is far better to live like a lion for a day then to live like a jackal for hundred years. â
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A nice article by Zafar Iqbal about Tipaimukh Dam.
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