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Old July 19, 2009, 03:04 PM
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Default News: Siddons set to stay on

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesig....php?nid=97697

The Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) is all set to extend the contract of Australian national team coach Jamie Siddons whose two-year tenure expires in November this year.

"We are looking forward to making a good team management with an eye on the next World Cup. And Jamie (Siddons) is very much a part of our plan. We want him to continue as the coach," said BCB's director and chairman of cricket operations committee Enayet Hossain Siraj after appearing in front of the parliamentary standing committee on Youth and Sports yesterday.

Bangladesh is a co-host of the 2011 ICC World Cup and Siraj said that they have no plans to change the national team coach ahead of the one-day championship despite questions being raised about the performance of the national team and its coaching staff in the ICC World Twenty20 in England where Bangladesh made exit from the first round after conceding an embarrassing defeat against lightweights Ireland.

Jamie, who worked as a specialist batting coach in the mighty Australia team, however failed to show any noticeable improvement in Bangladesh's go-happy batting during his two-year tenure and there has been no exception in the ongoing series in West Indies.

The shock exit forced the board to change its captain while a couple of board officials lambasted Jamie for failing to inspire the team. The performance in England was also discussed in the parliament and the board was asked to report the reason behind the failure.

In that context, a BCB delegation led by president Lt Gen Sina Ibn Jamali met the parliamentary standing committee to appraise Bangladesh's performance in the T20 championship.

"We met the committee to explain the reason behind the failure of the national team in the T20 World Cup. No doubt it was an upset. We also informed them about our future plan with the national team and other development programmes," Siraj informed over telephone.

"We don't think he is unsuccessful as a national coach rather he is doing well with the boys. And what we think is that it would be unwise to change him when the boys are started to acclimatise to him. And you all know he is a high profile coach," said Siraj.

"We are however looking for a foreign fielding coach as well as we are also searching for a foreign coach for the A team and a physio," he informed.

He said the standing committee reviewed the performance of national team in the ICC World Twenty20 and directed them to arrange rigorous practice for the cricketers and undertake an effective work plan for improving and upholding the image of country's cricket.
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Old July 19, 2009, 03:05 PM
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I knew that was coming. Thanks Eshen for sharing the news.
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Old July 19, 2009, 03:07 PM
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A related news -

JS committee slams indiscipline within nat'l cricket team

Dhaka, July 19 (bdnews24.com) – The parliamentary standing committee on the youth and sports ministry has advised the Bangladesh Cricket Board to impose strict discipline within the national team the night before an international match.

"We have seen how the team lacked discipline on the eve of their match against Ireland. Even, some players were out of the hotel until late evening without the permission of team management," said committee chairman Zahid Ahsan Russell after a meeting with the BCB delegation on Sunday.

The committee had summoned the BCB president Lt General Sina Ibn Jamali and other top officials to explain Bangladesh's failure to advance into the second round of the ICC Twenty20 World Cup in England last month.

"They promised us that they would be tough in future and they will be with the players whatever they do and even when they have their dinner," Russell said. "'Thankfully, the BCB did not try to defend the players."

Russell along with a few members of the standing committee had toured England at the invitation of the BCB.

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Old July 19, 2009, 03:09 PM
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Good to hear they are looking for fielding coach. And foreign coach for A team.
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Old July 19, 2009, 03:10 PM
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Old July 19, 2009, 03:12 PM
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Our over priced coach so far failed to help our batsmen get rid of glitches in their techniques. So, I personally find it frustrating that we are continuing with him.
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Old July 19, 2009, 03:12 PM
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Mother of mudslinging looming on the horizon @ BC...
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Old July 19, 2009, 03:15 PM
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We need a good bowling coach. Our pace dept is getting weaker under the supervision of Champaka.
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Old July 19, 2009, 03:16 PM
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We also informed them about our future plan with the national team and other development programmes
Love to know what development programmes they have for the future. Because last 2 years we did not produce that many good quality players. What I would like is "Pace Bowling Academy" .
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Old July 19, 2009, 03:20 PM
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if we are practical about finding new foreign coach and build up another set up before WC2011 is not real easy for "BCB" - so, I would say this decision was expected.
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Old July 19, 2009, 03:22 PM
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Mother of mudslinging looming on the horizon @ BC...
To prevent it, I suggest Orphy to open Siddons poll part ?
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Old July 19, 2009, 03:26 PM
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Love to know what development programmes they have for the future. Because last 2 years we did not produce that many good quality players. What I would like is "Pace Bowling Academy" .
Agreed. And players with actual pace would be nice.
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Just horrible news. Jamie should have walked.

More easy money and easy holidays...
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Old July 19, 2009, 04:51 PM
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Our over priced coach so far failed to help our batsmen get rid of glitches in their techniques. So, I personally find it frustrating that we are continuing with him.
Can you name 1 bd coach over its short international history who made significant improvement with the team in less than 2 years?
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Old July 19, 2009, 05:13 PM
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Stability is vital for continuous improvement. Chopping and changing will not do any good for BD cricket. It is evident that JS is courageous enough to take role for BD and playing a reasonably young side. The current crops of BD cricketers are much better equipped with skills and temperament than their predecessor. In the near future, this will pay dividend. JS is doing a good job in my opinion.
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Old July 19, 2009, 05:34 PM
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i wonder if gordon greenidge's offer of a short term contract is still possible, reckon he'd be handy as a batting coach even if only for a short time.
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Old July 19, 2009, 05:36 PM
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Can you name 1 bd coach over its short international history who made significant improvement with the team in less than 2 years?
Gordon Greenidge, Eddie Barlow, and Dav Whatmore (yes, the team showed plenty of progress during his first two years, prolly more than progress it showed during his last two years). All of them had to deal with players with poor fundamentals, yet the team showed progress under them. Siddons on the other hand was given players who had been taught their basics well, what we expected him was to fine tune them for international cricket. Expectation was particularly high to see him shape up our batting department since he earned good reputation as batting coach of South Australia, Australian Academy, and Australia team, but so far he failed to repeat his success stories with Bangladesh team.
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Siddons on the other hand was given players who had been taught their basics well, what we expected him was to fine tune them for international cricket.
Can't agree with that! The players (morons) did the same mistakes again and again. That story didn't change when JS took over. JS didn't get the players who were better than they were b4. It's not the DW or anyone who could be blamed - it's our players - no coach was able to do (basics right) with our players (overrrated by ourselves).
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I am with eshen on this one. Bad bad move by BCB. Just because we have won against a weak WI in WI does not mean Siddons was doing his job well. When he came in as a coach he had very good credentials which was why I was excited to see what he was going to do. After seeing his coaching and his work ethics from a fans perspective, i think it does not bode well for BD cricket to renew his contract unless he is working this new term for free. However if he does something different in this term and shows significant improvement I am ready to eat my words. However prior coaches like Whatmore had to work with players of lesser ability and ensured a much better progress chart as a whole for the team. I think australian coaches are not suited for coaching sub continent teams(whatmore being the lone exception).I think a sri lankan/ indian /pakistani coach would be better. Or even a bangladeshi coach for that matter.
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someone is trying to perform a miracle on asian logistics...

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Old July 19, 2009, 06:57 PM
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BTW, I am not blaming Siddons for idiocy or limitation of our batsmen. But, as a coach, if you can't help them improve, there is no point keeping you.

If we hand our current team to Sujon or Bulbul (or to both of them together), they prolly won't do any worse (if not better).
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But, as a coach, if you can't help them improve, there is no point keeping you.
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then ul just be firing coaches all ur life cos of the players inability to learn will never change n the coach will cop the blame always..not fair.
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Gordon Greenidge, Eddie Barlow, and Dav Whatmore (yes, the team showed plenty of progress during his first two years, prolly more than progress it showed during his last two years). All of them had to deal with players with poor fundamentals, yet the team showed progress under them. Siddons on the other hand was given players who had been taught their basics well, what we expected him was to fine tune them for international cricket. Expectation was particularly high to see him shape up our batting department since he earned good reputation as batting coach of South Australia, Australian Academy, and Australia team, but so far he failed to repeat his success stories with Bangladesh team.
Whatmore's first two year was horrible with BD.

- In 2003 we won 0 game and
- in 2004 we won 3 games.
- In 2005 we won 4 games.
- In 2006 we won 18 games (of which 17 games were won against zimbabwe - scotland - kenya. Against who we should win regardless of who the coach was - or if there was any coach at all).
- In 2007 (the year he left) we won 8 games (including 6 win against bermuda - canada - zimbabwe).

In contrast. Currently we don't have nearly the same team we had with whatmore (regardless of how you measure whatmore's "success"). Not to mention the horrible shawn williams was coach for a short period of time before JS took over and wrecked the team in the process. Here is the list of players from the last game/series under whatmore. Only 5 players are still in the national team, so you argument that whatmore handed a "polished team" for JS to take over don't fly at all, because there was no "polished" team to begin with. Not to mention, we don't have those players around anymore. Here is the BD player list under JS in his first game/series. not nearly the same team by any stretch of imagination.

In contrast, JS started at the very end of 2007 (NZ series).
- In 2008 we won 5 games (including ireland)
- In 2009 we won 3 games so far (including zimbabwe)

Gordon Greenidge did OK, considering the fact that we were already playing very competitively against ICC teams where most of his success as a coach was coming from. I remember in ICC tournament before GG took over we nearly won in the final.

Though Eddie Barlow is a fine coach he spent a very short time with the team (because of health issues) and had nothing to show or proof that we can compare as a success or failure.

The point being, its always very convenient to blame the coach and the players (some times they are very well justified) and ignore the bigger pictures. The big picture here is our Cricket board and administrators sucks big donkey balls and they should get the overwhelming majority of the blame for the teams performance. When the player comes from domestic cricket they should already be very good at what they do, not just OK. They shouldn't shake in their pants when they see muruli or bret lee balls against them. We should have an A team who has a tight schedule of playing round the year and gain experience and confidence.

When you are in the national team its not your coache's job to show you how to hold a bat. Its their job to refine the knowledge you already have.

Also, very annoying sometimes, that people have a wrong perception of whatmore's "achievements". IF the team under JS played as many games against zim - kenya - bermuda - ireland as team under whatmore did, then you will also get a very bias view of JS's achievements.

Whatmore took a mediocre srilanka team to WC champions - in contrast he was a failure with BD team after 4 years.

Every single coach (since GG) has pointed out how horrible our cricket infrastructure is, we can't keep blaming the coach for that and expect a better coach might fix things.

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Other then the t20 WC the last couple of months have been pretty good for Bangla cricket...so I do not mind JS too much!! Maybe the fruits of his labor will be enjoyed now!!
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