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Old January 3, 2015, 06:44 PM
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How Tigers will do in this WC 2015?

Frankly, I am very excited about our chances in this world cup. The squad the selectors are going to pick today might be the best possible squad in our cricket history to date.
We have a very talented pool of young players who are ready to offer their best and to rock the world!

The Kill Team of Three Spinners - Shak, Taijul and Arafat is undoubtedly the best spinning options among any team in the world currently IMO. We have dashing Tamim and Anamul at opening who might give us an exciting start if clicks and then Mominul, Soumya, Mushy, Shak, Nasir, Mullah, Shabbir could take the game ahead...and Mash, RBX and Co. are a decent pace attack if not the best.

I know, we might not see the cool Jubair in our team this time, but he could have been our tramp card to this world cup. I am with coach Hathurusinghe who wants/wanted Jubair in the WC squad badly.



I think these are the best players we have seen in Bangladesh cricket history. With Mash's leadership, these tigers could be transformed into a killing machine and could hunt down the "elite" force of the world cricket.

Seems exciting, eh? Yes, indeed. I am excited for a spectacular performance from the Tigers in this WC 2015.

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Old January 3, 2015, 09:30 PM
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There are other reasons too to be optimistic. Besides arguably being the best world cup squad in our history, the players have a decent exposure to encounters on big occasions. The experience has been very good in the sense most of our players part of 2015 campaign has faced severe pressure during 2011 world cup and 2014 world t20 at home. This time, they are definitely better prepared to handle the nerves. And I just want to add, the winning mentality has firmly been established History is good enough to prove that we are capable of winning consecutive matches.(Eg: Recent NZ whitewash, or beating Ind followed by SL and almost beating Pak in Asia cup 2012). The only thing against us is unfamiliarity with playing conditions down under. But for some reason, just get the feel Haturusinghe's experience of coaching NSW in Aus' first class domestic competition is gonna come in very handy when he uses his strategizing or coaching for our team.
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Old January 4, 2015, 01:01 AM
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How many world cup threads are there? the tournament hasn't even started
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Old January 4, 2015, 07:54 AM
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Surprised you've gone with so many spinners, would've thought 2 in the squad was enough
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Old January 4, 2015, 11:40 AM
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Surprised you've gone with so many spinners, would've thought 2 in the squad was enough
That's our strength, no?

To hunt down the likes of Australia, New Zealand or England, we need our spinners ...
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Old January 4, 2015, 11:45 AM
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That's our strength, no?

To hunt down the likes of Australia, New Zealand or England, we need our spinners ...
Spinners arent that good in Australia and especially in New Zealand as pitches dont support them at all really. Having so many just seems like a waste IMO. 1 spinner is all you need in a single match
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Old January 4, 2015, 11:52 AM
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Spinners arent that good in Australia and especially in New Zealand as pitches dont support them at all really. Having so many just seems like a waste IMO. 1 spinner is all you need in a single match
Well, ICC curators are going to make the pitches...so the pitch won't be as pacer friendly as Australia or New Zealand would have liked ...

Remember Dipak Patel? Or, Vettory? Or Shane Warne and their successful career?
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Surprised you've gone with so many spinners, would've thought 2 in the squad was enough
They did select just 2; Taijul and Sunny. Riyad/Nasir/Sabbir would play as a batsman/part-timer. But that's still one too many. Don't need both Tai AND Sunny. We have the best Spin-ALR of this gen. We shouldn't even need any other spinners, let alone play 3 in the same line-up like we usually do.
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Remember Dipak Patel? Or, Vettory? Or Shane Warne and their successful career?
IDK who the first guy is, but you just named couple of HOF spinners. Name one Warne/Vettori in our squad or in any other squads? We don't have any. They were successful because they were good, which doesn't mean spinners will be as effective as them over there.
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Old January 4, 2015, 11:54 AM
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Spinners arent that good in Australia and especially in New Zealand as pitches dont support them at all really. Having so many just seems like a waste IMO. 1 spinner is all you need in a single match
I think, selectors missed/failed to pick the only "wild card" Jubair who could have been our trump card for this world cup. If I were a selector, I would have picked one more spinner and that would be Jubair.
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Old January 4, 2015, 11:54 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P3mZnT5ZzZ4

Taskin, Soumya, Taijul's reaction On being selected
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Surprised you've gone with so many spinners, would've thought 2 in the squad was enough
Didn't you criticize AFG for not taking any specialist spinners?

IMO, AFG part timers like Nabi and Shenwari are more than handy spinners...their strength is seam bowling and rule #1 is to pick your strongest side regardless of conditions.

Our strength is suffocating spin. Now our seam attack is quite decent (easily the best we've ever assembled) but we will bowl 20-25 overs of suffocating spin.

My prediction is the tracks won't be very Aussie-like for 3 reasons:

1) its an ICC event so the tracks will be largely flat...bouncier and quicker than the last WC but I don't think it will be as hazardous as people think.

2) pitches are drop in and not truly natural wickets

3) BCCI will cut everyone's balls off if the pitches don't ensure India has the advantage to retain the cup.
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Old January 5, 2015, 12:08 AM
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IDK who the first guy is, but you just named couple of HOF spinners. Name one Warne/Vettori in our squad or in any other squads? We don't have any. They were successful because they were good, which doesn't mean spinners will be as effective as them over there.
Patel was a NZ spinner played in 92 WC.

Spinners played a vital role when the world cup was staged over there back in 92. Guys like Patel, Mushtaq, Illingworth, Amir helped their teams tremendously.

Hope Taijul, Sunny can also be successful this time. And it is not a bilateral series , it is world cup . ICC will intervene and will ensure to dish out pitches that will favor all the teams and not just the home teams. Might be little flat too. So the pitches might have something for the spinners
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I am also surprised not to see Jubair, our only leggie, in the squad. He could have been our dark horse like Mushtaq (Pakistan) in 92. Anyway, I am very excited and can't wait for the WC to start.
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In terms of spinners thats a fair enough point. We might not have needed that many spinners in our lineup. Subcontinental spinners do not normally perform well in Australia e.g. Ravi Ashwin however spinners such as Nathan Lyon are effective in Aussie conditions but plays poorly in subcontinent. I think its a case of being familiar with the conditions.

If spinners want to perform well in Aussie conditions they have to first learn how to utilise the bounce on the pitch. Spinners who are just accurate might struggle but if they adjust then it could work well. Someone like Arafat Sunny is in that category. Thats why leggies are so effective in Aussie conditions. Besides that i still think not taking Jubair was the right decision at the end on the basis of that he is still raw and we already have youngsters such as Taskin, Soumya and Shabbir that we did need a more older and experienced domestic player in the mould of Arafat Sunny in the lineup.

The trend is to only have one spinner in the team in Aussie conditions. We will potentially have 4 spinners (Riyad, Shakib, Arafat, Nasir). I think its not the ideal measure to rely solely on our spinners because Aussie conditions are pacers conditions. Rubel, Mashrafe and Al Amin/Taskin should be the focus. I saw some stats recently on the number of wickets a pacer takes in Aussie conditions in relation to spinners and the amount of wickets pacers take are SIGNIFICANTLY bigger than the amount of wickets a spinner takes.

But i think our pace attack is well balanced and can get the job done. Al-Amin death over bowler. Mashrafe bowling beautifully with the new ball. He will also generate bounce on the pitch. Rubel bowling aggressively. Taskin with his pace. These should be the focus. As selectors said the grounds are most likely going to be batting friendly. Spinners roles in Aussie conditions are usually to slow down the run rate in the middle overs. But i have faith Haturi will bring out a very well planned strategy to utilise our strength in spin but also make use of the wicket.
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Didn't you criticize AFG for not taking any specialist spinners?

IMO, AFG part timers like Nabi and Shenwari are more than handy spinners...their strength is seam bowling and rule #1 is to pick your strongest side regardless of conditions.

Our strength is suffocating spin. Now our seam attack is quite decent (easily the best we've ever assembled) but we will bowl 20-25 overs of suffocating spin.

My prediction is the tracks won't be very Aussie-like for 3 reasons:

1) its an ICC event so the tracks will be largely flat...bouncier and quicker than the last WC but I don't think it will be as hazardous as people think.

2) pitches are drop in and not truly natural wickets

3) BCCI will cut everyone's balls off if the pitches don't ensure India has the advantage to retain the cup.
Aye I did, but thats because bar Nabi their allrounder, they only have Shenwari who's more of a part timer in the squad. Spin isnt going to be too useful IMO but you'll still need someone to bowl 10 overs of it, maybe a couple more just for variety.

Bangladesh have done the opposite and selected like 3 spinners as well as a couple all rounders who can bowl spin.

I'm not stupid, I realise pitches wont be green mambas and they'll most likely be flat, but still I dont think they'll support spin that much, especially in NZ where domestically spinners get a hammering IIRC. It is important to pick your best side I agree, but in conditions where your best strength (suffocating spin) might not be that effective then maybe a decision has to be made by your coach
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Aye I did, but thats because bar Nabi their allrounder, they only have Shenwari who's more of a part timer in the squad. Spin isnt going to be too useful IMO but you'll still need someone to bowl 10 overs of it, maybe a couple more just for variety.

Bangladesh have done the opposite and selected like 3 spinners as well as a couple all rounders who can bowl spin.

I'm not stupid, I realise pitches wont be green mambas and they'll most likely be flat, but still I dont think they'll support spin that much, especially in NZ where domestically spinners get a hammering IIRC. It is important to pick your best side I agree, but in conditions where your best strength (suffocating spin) might not be that effective then maybe a decision has to be made by your coach
You make valid points, but teams that have been perennially weak against spin, you can always capitalize on them. Reference: BD v ENG WC 07 at Barbados where the pitch was seamer friendly but we made a game out of it just by spin, thanks to Rafique's magic.
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spinners need to use bounce to get wickets in aust pitches, not rely on square movements off the pitch. There is enough spin and bounce to beat the shoulder of the bat even when a batsmen play forward.
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Aye I did, but thats because bar Nabi their allrounder, they only have Shenwari who's more of a part timer in the squad. Spin isnt going to be too useful IMO but you'll still need someone to bowl 10 overs of it, maybe a couple more just for variety.

Bangladesh have done the opposite and selected like 3 spinners as well as a couple all rounders who can bowl spin.

I'm not stupid, I realise pitches wont be green mambas and they'll most likely be flat, but still I dont think they'll support spin that much, especially in NZ where domestically spinners get a hammering IIRC. It is important to pick your best side I agree, but in conditions where your best strength (suffocating spin) might not be that effective then maybe a decision has to be made by your coach
Well we've been hearing about the death of spin in limited overs for a number years. First there was the PP rules, then the two new balls. And yet spin has still been our strength (I think our pacers have improved loads since circa 2007 and that might be due to the 2 new balls now).

I'll will put any amount of money that our most economical and wicket taking bowlers for the 6 games in the WC will be dominated by our spinners (maybe throw a rampaging Taskin in there somewhere). Can't say anything for other teams with Ajmal, Hafeez, Narine being banned as chuckers. But for BD, our spinners will still beat our pacers, on a whole.

Trust me, these pitches will be docile.
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Still a good month and a half left bro, but there would surely be a new one no doubt. I guess we'll get to see it during our practice matches in Brisbane or they might unveil it in a press conference just before they leave for Australia on the 24th Jan.
Just saw a glimpse of the WC jersey and the training kit on Independent TV as they made a news on the making of the jersey. The jersey will be launched in an official press conference prior to their departure for Australia.

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Hope there will be no "baagh" on the jersey rather than BCB logo. Keep it simple and nice please
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Thanks Razi for the TV link!
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Jersey local market e ash be kobe?
After Jan 29th - per local TV
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