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Old October 23, 2014, 07:03 PM
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Default Shakib: We are better

http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/s...nfidence-47164

Says we're better at batting and bowling...on talent sure, but on performance we can only say we're better at batting and spin bowling. Their seamers have so far danced circles around ours.

Good to see our slump in form hasn't inhibited the cocky pre-series comments, lol.
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Old October 23, 2014, 09:44 PM
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shuru hoiche boro kotha..
i think Zimb spinners doing more better than ours and you will see in the test
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Old October 23, 2014, 10:03 PM
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Kotha kom bolia..kaje dekao. Kagojer baag hoe lav ki..
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Old October 23, 2014, 10:25 PM
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Needless comment.
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Old October 23, 2014, 11:03 PM
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LOL it shows these guys will never learn and grow up, whether it's on-field related or off it. 10 years they've been playing at the INT level and still can't figure out how to speak to the media. I hope Hathuri slaps them around after they blow this series.
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Old October 24, 2014, 12:15 AM
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^did you read the article. There is nothing wrong with what he said. He did mention "on paper"..

I am glad to see shakib talking about cricket again, can't wait to see him play and have a full strengh revjuvinated team take on a decent opponent...

mr al furqan does lot of sensation thread.... rpoll thread that has no option for bd loss to zimbabwe :p
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Old October 24, 2014, 12:18 AM
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ei, chil'a kan niye gasey. (ek jon)

Shotti? shotti? koi? koi? hmmm!! Oito monay hoi. ami dekhtey pacchi. (so far --- char jon)
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Old October 24, 2014, 01:56 AM
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normally i would echo the sentiments shared by you guys above but I sort of like his comeback. I know for sure that if not others but Shakib will comeback strong in this series. He is hungry for revenge, he would cease every opportunity to shut the critiques down. And knowing Shakib... he alone can win it...... just need the desire, the effort, the hunger
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Old October 24, 2014, 05:09 AM
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so what did you want him to say? "no, Zim are better on paper than us ! " ?
why would he lie?
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Old October 24, 2014, 05:55 AM
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He spoke the truth. Now he and the team will prove it on the pitch

Btw anyone info on broadcast in South Asia?
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Old October 24, 2014, 09:59 AM
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No doubt we are better than them . We will prove it in test series.
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Old October 24, 2014, 10:26 AM
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http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/s...nfidence-47164

Says we're better at batting and bowling...on talent sure, but on performance we can only say we're better at batting and spin bowling. Their seamers have so far danced circles around ours.

Good to see our slump in form hasn't inhibited the cocky pre-series comments, lol.
fans are cocky too. whitewash niye thread o open hoye gese.
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Old October 24, 2014, 11:24 AM
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fans are cocky too. whitewash niye thread o open hoye gese.
Correction: TigerWash!

That was my thread! As someone pointed out...was no option of ZIM winning the series. Yes, fans are just like the players. Kono din shikka hobe na.
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Old October 24, 2014, 12:32 PM
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Stupid comments IMO.

The goal of a press conference isnt to get the other team riled up.

This has happened a lot tbh, should be giving your players PR training

A lot of confidence here about this series, yes Zim are weak away but they've beaten Aus and Pak recently, Bangladesh havent even won a game against a full member this year. No reason for such confidence IMO and this just illustrates the general idea here that the players have a seriously inflated egos
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Old October 24, 2014, 01:11 PM
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Stupid comments IMO.

The goal of a press conference isnt to get the other team riled up.

This has happened a lot tbh, should be giving your players PR training

A lot of confidence here about this series, yes Zim are weak away but they've beaten Aus and Pak recently, Bangladesh havent even won a game against a full member this year. No reason for such confidence IMO and this just illustrates the general idea here that the players have a seriously inflated egos
That's why context and reading the full statement is important. Shakib said "On paper Bangladesh is a better team than visiting Zimbabwe" and then again "We will not face this kind of problem on home soil and I think on paper we are the better team. We are better in batting and both spin and fast bowling. But they may have an edge in the fielding department". He emphasized that in home conditions we are a better team and even acknowledged that Zim may be better in fielding.

Similar story in a different newspaper (Dhaka Tribune) -- Shakib believes they are “comparatively better than Zimbabwe in batting and bowling department”

So there was more than just "WE ARE BETTER" period.
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Old October 24, 2014, 01:55 PM
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That's why context and reading the full statement is important. Shakib said "On paper Bangladesh is a better team than visiting Zimbabwe" and then again "We will not face this kind of problem on home soil and I think on paper we are the better team. We are better in batting and both spin and fast bowling. But they may have an edge in the fielding department". He emphasized that in home conditions we are a better team and even acknowledged that Zim may be better in fielding.

Similar story in a different newspaper (Dhaka Tribune) -- Shakib believes they are “comparatively better than Zimbabwe in batting and bowling department”

So there was more than just "WE ARE BETTER" period.
I Added my own sensationalist flair to it. after all our buddy Donnie might have egg on his face after we sweep ZIM. Foreigners have to realize that while we haven't beaten anyone this year we've actually thrown away several victories and have played well enough to have a winning record. It would be remiss to forget that in all internationals, Ireland have been dominated 7-2 by our pompous tigers.
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Old October 24, 2014, 02:56 PM
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I Added my own sensationalist flair to it. after all our buddy Donnie might have egg on his face after we sweep ZIM. Foreigners have to realize that while we haven't beaten anyone this year we've actually thrown away several victories and have played well enough to have a winning record. It would be remiss to forget that in all internationals, Ireland have been dominated 7-2 by our pompous tigers.
Lol, I think Ban will win the series dont get me wrong, but I dont like seeing people getting cocky when there really isnt much reason to, from a neutral standpoint at least.

Zimbabwe have a pretty strong batting unit and a competent bowling one, so I cant understand why they're being written off so readily here. The pressure is all on you guys to get back to winning ways and show that you're not the worst test team. Zimbabwe dont have too much pressure IMO, as very few expect them to do much and even if they lose they still have some excellent home results to back them up. They have nothing to lose, Bangladesh could lose a lot if this series goes wrong.

The thing is, playing well and losing ultimately means very little, and while obviously Bangladesh arent as bad as the results would suggest, a loss is still a loss.

7-2. 3 of those were in 2008 when we were amateur, and another 3 in the t20 series that could have gone either way in fairness.

I look forward to the series, should be some exciting cricket on show.
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Well if thats the case theres no point us turning up tomorrow
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Well if thats the case theres no point us turning up tomorrow
there is. so you can improve playing better opposition. isnth that the whole premise on which weaker teams want tours?
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Old October 24, 2014, 03:18 PM
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bechara, gets in trouble regardless of if he speaks or not. He praised our batting/bolwing and praised their seam bowling. It is what it is. Truth to be told
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Old October 24, 2014, 03:33 PM
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there is. so you can improve playing better opposition. isnth that the whole premise on which weaker teams want tours?
Haha thats so patronising, the difference between the sides are minimal at best, the major difference is that Zim players are fighters whilst the Bangladesh's play to much to the crowd and there egos.

It will be close but the good news is that its a three test series so the better team across the three matches will come out on top.
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Old October 24, 2014, 03:42 PM
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Lol, I think Ban will win the series dont get me wrong, but I dont like seeing people getting cocky when there really isnt much reason to, from a neutral standpoint at least.

Zimbabwe have a pretty strong batting unit and a competent bowling one, so I cant understand why they're being written off so readily here. The pressure is all on you guys to get back to winning ways and show that you're not the worst test team. Zimbabwe dont have too much pressure IMO, as very few expect them to do much and even if they lose they still have some excellent home results to back them up. They have nothing to lose, Bangladesh could lose a lot if this series goes wrong.

The thing is, playing well and losing ultimately means very little, and while obviously Bangladesh arent as bad as the results would suggest, a loss is still a loss.

7-2. 3 of those were in 2008 when we were amateur, and another 3 in the t20 series that could have gone either way in fairness.

I look forward to the series, should be some exciting cricket on show.
Bottom line is this 2012-13 we had a 9-5 record against G8 sides. I think 2 years and 14 games weighs more than 1 year and 9 games. Sure we lost to Afghanistan, India A, and HK. But no one cares about T20, the team had no intention of winning that game as they played for the RR. Of course that's inferiorating but facts are facts.

As for 2008, Ireland had Eoin Morgan in the side...amateur or pro, he still played Tests for England shortly thereafter. I think most of your side had county experience even in 2008.

ZIM didn't win a series against us on their own turf with players like Jarvis, Creamer, etc. We were also without Shakib the bowler in part of that series, and I think Tamim missed a test also. I don't think its reaching to anticipate a 3-0 on our turf when were more or less at full strength and they are missing one or two key players.

If Ireland drew in Bangladesh, would you not favor a sweep on the emerald isle?
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Old October 24, 2014, 03:49 PM
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Haha thats so patronising, the difference between the sides are minimal at best, the major difference is that Zim players are fighters whilst the Bangladesh's play to much to the crowd and there egos.

It will be close but the good news is that its a three test series so the better team across the three matches will come out on top.
ZIM fans are fighters too. And us BD fans are also prone to big talk. Like player like fans!

That being said...in all fairness, if BD plays to the best of our potential the series won't be a contest. ZIM couldn't even get a 1-0 win in their own conditions despite a bit of help from the umpires and tons of help from BD themselves.

Just watch this series how Mushy will invite your batsmen to score big runs with a wide open ODI field. I doubt ZIM will still be able to take advantage. Ergo the difference is more than minimal.
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How do you concede 5 answered goals after taking a 2-0 lead?

If the game only was for 20 minutes.

We lost Ireland 5-2 @ New Delhi.
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ZIM fans are fighters too. And us BD fans are also prone to big talk. Like player like fans!

That being said...in all fairness, if BD plays to the best of our potential the series won't be a contest. ZIM couldn't even get a 1-0 win in their own conditions despite a bit of help from the umpires and tons of help from BD themselves.

Just watch this series how Mushy will invite your batsmen to score big runs with a wide open ODI field. I doubt ZIM will still be able to take advantage. Ergo the difference is more than minimal.
don't underestimate them Zims that much. esp after our horrible horrible performance this year. I think the first test will tell us where both team stands and how the series will progress.
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