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Old September 12, 2011, 05:16 AM
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Old September 12, 2011, 05:19 AM
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hey guys long time! Hmmmm reading through alot... my advice stick with Shakib!
Welcome back Stumps, we are still here in full force.

The whole world knows what we (BD) should do yet it seems BCB is unaware. Steady leadership was necessary but petty arrogant characteristics came in the way. I wonder what these board members did while they were 22-24 years old? Certainly not carrying the nations pressure on their shoulder. Politics ruins everything.
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Old September 12, 2011, 05:34 AM
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I wonder what these board members did while they were 22-24 years old?
isn't it obvious? they were playing football to prepare for the BCB job!
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Old September 12, 2011, 06:37 AM
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Or India, they always speak highly of him.
ya,and that's why he was regularly picked in KKR XI .
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Old September 12, 2011, 09:18 AM
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Again T20? He should have stayed and practiced with the team. Beside making easy money, there is no benefit in playing in the so called "Champions League".
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Old September 12, 2011, 09:22 AM
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^^ I was thinking the same... IPL will destroy SHAKIB...
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Old September 12, 2011, 10:02 AM
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First of all, Shakib was already committed to playing this Champions League qualifying stuff with KKR. So it is not a case of him deciding to go AGAIN.

Second, money is not the ONLY benefit of IPL. There is also the added benefit of playing alongside the likes of Gambhir and Kallis and sharing the dressing room with them. Also, you guys sound like playing for money is bad ! Bashar, Nafees betrayed the national team to play ICL, and now Shakib is being portrayed as kind of greedy!
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Old September 12, 2011, 10:06 AM
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i would like to see what u guys do if u get $425000
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Old September 12, 2011, 10:47 AM
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Lol why most of the best players of the world want to play IPL?
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Old September 12, 2011, 11:18 AM
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First of all, Shakib was already committed to playing this Champions League qualifying stuff with KKR. So it is not a case of him deciding to go AGAIN.

Second, money is not the ONLY benefit of IPL. There is also the added benefit of playing alongside the likes of Gambhir and Kallis and sharing the dressing room with them. Also, you guys sound like playing for money is bad ! Bashar, Nafees betrayed the national team to play ICL, and now Shakib is being portrayed as kind of greedy!
But National duties should come first. No one is defending Bashar or Nafees. Whatever they did was terrible and and there is no doubt it.

I am just saying Shakib should have stayed and practiced with the team for our own good. After the horrible Zim series, we need to focus and regroup. If we again lose badly against WI, a lot of people will start questioning our progress.

I understand that he is committed with KKR and needs to play along Gambhir and Kallis but at the same time he is our best performer. Too much T20 might ruin his form in Test or ODIs. Instead playing in BCB Challenge Cup and skills and fitness training might be better for him and the team now.
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Old September 12, 2011, 11:21 AM
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I am not saying Playing IPL doesn't make him (shakib) good or bad.I am stating the fact that IPL will destroy him (not because of money). Coach sallauddin already said he is not giving flights. also mixing with greats in a picnic type tournament is not always good. now most these players spends night in the night clubs and you know what which he can pick up very easily... I am not hating the player I am hating the tournament...

BTW if players can say NO to boards why can't they say no to IPL team? if they want they can, but they won't because money matters to most (including me...)
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Old September 12, 2011, 11:44 AM
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ya,and that's why he was regularly picked in KKR XI .
but what could they do? he doesn't know how to bat in t20's and they probably figured that out from training camps. and moreover yusuf and iqbal abdulla were lethal with the ball. why wouldn't you pick morgan? with a man of such talent. not undermining shakib here (of course that would be foolish to do so), but he really has to improve his batting in t20's if he's to play regularly abroad for t20 franchises. he doesn't want to take the single's but goes for the expansive shot every delivery. and we know how that turned out.
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Old September 12, 2011, 02:54 PM
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I am not saying Playing IPL doesn't make him (shakib) good or bad.I am stating the fact that IPL will destroy him (not because of money). Coach sallauddin already said he is not giving flights. also mixing with greats in a picnic type tournament is not always good. now most these players spends night in the night clubs and you know what which he can pick up very easily... I am not hating the player I am hating the tournament...

BTW if players can say NO to boards why can't they say no to IPL team? if they want they can, but they won't because money matters to most (including me...)
So far, the BCB 'Challenge' Cup has not proved to be much more than "a picnic-type tournament". It may be a different format, but getting smashed around and/or flopping with the bat, will at least test his mettle more. Besides, it does not look very likely that KKR will make it past the qualifying stages, so Shakib may be back around the 22-23rd of September...around the time that this Challenge Cup ends.
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Old September 12, 2011, 03:21 PM
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CL T20 is way better than such lousy cricket against 'A' & Academy Team. Good that he was allowed to go and he opted to go, Money is bonus.
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Old September 12, 2011, 04:30 PM
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Lol why most of the best players of the worldBecause. want to play IPL?
because before IPL even world class class cricket players made nothing comparing to some of the other athletes that play other sports. The only reason we are all so upset with IPL is because our players suck and none of the franchises have bothered to pick them up except Shakib. If we had more players parcipating in IPL we all would have been obsessed with it.

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Old September 13, 2011, 12:15 AM
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but what could they do? he doesn't know how to bat in t20's and they probably figured that out from training camps. and moreover yusuf and iqbal abdulla were lethal with the ball. why wouldn't you pick morgan? with a man of such talent. not undermining shakib here (of course that would be foolish to do so), but he really has to improve his batting in t20's if he's to play regularly abroad for t20 franchises. he doesn't want to take the single's but goes for the expansive shot every delivery. and we know how that turned out.
that doesnt make sense at all.. Cricket isnot about only talent..
Morgan just sucks at T20 just like Shakib as a batsman.. Check his performance in ipl of last two year..
OR Do you want to tell Shakib is not much talented as Morgan as a batsman??
Shakib is miles ahead of Morgan if he just remain cool...
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werent lethal with ball.. He has much better stats than those two...
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Old September 13, 2011, 06:02 AM
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If Sakib was given enough opportunities in IPL, he would have been the best bowler of the tournament.
His batting is a problem though, but even with the bat he wouldn't have done any worse than Morgan .
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Old September 13, 2011, 06:37 AM
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that doesnt make sense at all.. Cricket isnot about only talent..
Morgan just sucks at T20 just like Shakib as a batsman.. Check his performance in ipl of last two year..
OR Do you want to tell Shakib is not much talented as Morgan as a batsman??
Shakib is miles ahead of Morgan if he just remain cool...
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tbh saying morgan sucks at t20 based on ipl in not fair..he played really well vs india in the t20 and his t20 int stats are great..he just had bad time in ipl..
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Old September 13, 2011, 09:11 AM
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tbh saying morgan sucks at t20 based on ipl in not fair..he played really well vs india in the t20 and his t20 int stats are great..he just had bad time in ipl..
not bad time...He performed really bad in ipl 3 also.. And before judging another thing how many t20 matches he had played and how many shakib?? Morgan played already 80 matches avg 25+ whereas shakib only 40 avg 12+..
And Shakib just started to play t20 regularly this year... Shakib just need two or three big innings to improve his batting avg..

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T20 Sucks..........

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Old September 13, 2011, 09:31 AM
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he signed a contract and so he has to go. i really wish that he plays EXTREMELY well makes us all proud!
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Old September 13, 2011, 01:01 PM
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that doesnt make sense at all.. Cricket isnot about only talent..
Morgan just sucks at T20 just like Shakib as a batsman.. Check his performance in ipl of last two year..
OR Do you want to tell Shakib is not much talented as Morgan as a batsman??
Shakib is miles ahead of Morgan if he just remain cool...
And dont tell me shakib
werent lethal with ball.. He has much better stats than those two...
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i do think Morgan is a better batsmen than Shakib esp. in T20's. yes he has had two dismal IPL seasons, but so did Brett Lee. look at his IPL avg, horrendous for a player in T20 but yet he starts every match. KKR expects Shakib to perform both with the bat and the ball when he's selected, but hasn't delivered with the bat. i admit, he's hardly batted or comes too lower down the order, but circumstances are such at KKR that he wont get to bat in the top order. and someone lower down the order is expected to slog and clear the ropes when he comes in, and Shakib can't do that, that's when you go for RTD or Morgan(though he opened in a few matches)

yes Shakib is early in his t20 career but he needs to sort his batting out if he's to be a lethal player in t20.
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Old September 13, 2011, 02:10 PM
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not bad time...He performed really bad in ipl 3 also.. And before judging another thing how many t20 matches he had played and how many shakib?? Morgan played already 80 matches avg 25+ whereas shakib only 40 avg 12+..
And Shakib just started to play t20 regularly this year... Shakib just need two or three big innings to improve his batting avg..

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i didn't compared shakib with morgan in my comment i just said that saying morgan sucks in t20 isnt fair.. he is horrible in ipl but his record for eng in t20 is fair enough...and another thing 40 matches is a large enough pool
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Shakib Al Hasan 4-0-27-2 against Hyderabad Cricket Association. He did not bat apparently.

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Old September 14, 2011, 01:02 AM
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i do think Morgan is a better batsmen than Shakib esp. in T20's. yes he has had two dismal IPL seasons, but so did Brett Lee. look at his IPL avg, horrendous for a player in T20 but yet he starts every match. KKR expects Shakib to perform both with the bat and the ball when he's selected, but hasn't delivered with the bat. i admit, he's hardly batted or comes too lower down the order, but circumstances are such at KKR that he wont get to bat in the top order. and someone lower down the order is expected to slog and clear the ropes when he comes in, and Shakib can't do that, that's when you go for RTD or Morgan(though he opened in a few matches)

yes Shakib is early in his t20 career but he needs to sort his batting out if he's to be a lethal player in t20.
hmm..but I dont think morgan is better batsman than Shakib...

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