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Old November 16, 2014, 06:22 PM
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Default It's time for a 4 man pace attack!

Now that the Test series is complete and focus shifts to the ODI series. Now is a good time to have a look at what bowlers Bangladesh should pick and what strategies they should take keeping the World Cup in mind.

It is no secret that the pitches in both Australia and New Zealand tend to favour fast bowling. If we take a closer look at the World Cup venues Bangladesh will play in, the stats show that pace is favoured in all the pitches.

Venue: Manuka Oval (Australia)
Opposition: Afghanistan

Wickets Average
Pace: 27 36
Spin: 7 42

Venue: Brisbane Cricket Ground (Australia)
Opposition: Australia

Wickets Average
Pace: 224 28
Spin: 37 49

Venue: Melbourne Cricket Ground (Australia)
Opposition: Sri Lanka

Wickets Average
Pace: 208 31
Spin: 63 43


Venue: Saxton Oval (New Zealand)
Opposition: Scotland

Wickets Average
Pace: 5 46
Spin: 3 59

Venue: Adelaide Oval
Opposition: England

Wickets Average
Pace: 213 31
Spin: 54 47

Venue: Seddon Park (New Zealand)
Opposition: New Zealand

Wickets Average
Pace: 86 41
Spin: 20 58

N.B. All stats are taken from ODIs in those grounds in the last 10 years, except for Manuka Oval who have hosted 3 ODIs since 1992 and Saxton Oval who have hosted their only ODI to date in 2014.

Except for Manuka and Saxton oval where there isn’t a large enough sample size to deduce stats from, all the other 4 grounds have heavily favoured pace. In fact spin averages above 40 in every ground. The stats suggest that Bangladesh will have to play a number of pacers in these conditions and how well they adapt to the conditions will be key to their success. The performance of the Bangladesh bowlers over the last one and half years also favour picking a pace heavy attack. Sohag Gazi had a bright start to his ODI career taking 7 wickets in his first 2 ODIs, since then he has taken more than 1 wicket in an ODI only once. Since 5 May 2013 his average is 42.54, Razzak has been worse averaging 93.66. In contrast pace bowlers have taken the bulk of the wickets in that period with the top 3 wicket takers being Al Amin, Rubel and Mashrafe. Below is a detailed look at the performance of Bangladesh bowlers in that period.

Pace Bowlers

Name Wickets Average
Al Amin Hossain 16 23.56
Rubel Hossain 16 27.92
Mashrafe Mortaza 12 37.25
Taskin Ahmed 7 12.71

Spin Bowlers

Name Wickets Average
Shakib al Hasan 11 27.45
Mahmudullah 11 39.27
Sohag Gazi 11 42.54
Abdur Razzak 6 93.66
Arafat Sunny 6 34.50
Mominul Haque 5 25.40

Shakib and Mominul are the only spinners who have done well in ODIs in that period. If we look at the combined stats of the pacers and the combined stats of the frontline spinners, excluding Shakib, i.e. Gazi, Razzak and Sunny. The pace bowlers have taken more than twice as many wickets at a good average and a much better strike rate.

Wickets Average
Combined average of pace bowlers 51 26.57
Combined average of spin bowlers excluding Shakib 23 53.78

Wickets Strike Rate
Combined strike rates of pace bowlers 51 30.24
Combined strike rates of spin bowlers excluding Shakib 23 59.61

If recent form is anything to go by, Bangladesh should pick 4 fast bowlers for the World Cup, with Shakib being their sole frontline spinner. Their fast bowlers have been prolific. Rubel destoyed New Zealand with 6/26. Takin took an astonishing 5/28 on debut v India and Al Amin took 2 4-fors v West Indies.

In the last 5 years on away/neutral venues in England, Ireland, Scotland and New Zealand, 3 of the top 4 wicket takers on fast and bouncy pitches have been fast bowlers. Razzak has a poor record in those conditions too, taking 5 wickets at 59.40

Leading wicket takers in England/Ireland/Scotland/New Zealand in last 5 years:

Name Wickets Average
Shafiul Islam 15 29.40
Shakib al Hasan 14 26.21
Rubel Hossain 7 39.71
Mashrafe Mortaza 6 32.33
Abdur Razzak 5 59.40

The downside to picking a combination of Mashrafe-Rubel-Taskin-Al Amin for the World Cup is that Bangladesh would have 3 genuine tailenders with Mashrafe being the only one of the quartet capable of scoring runs with the bat. Considering Bangladesh’s poor run of form with the bat over the last year, the team management may not be willing to risk such a long tail. Abul Hasan who clobbered 35 off 17 balls in a recent DPL match maybe someone who can fill that void and with the ability to bowl at 140kph, he could be an option. The emergence of Taijul Islam and Jubair Hossain may tempt the think tank to pick them ahead of some of the other spinners, however that still doesn’t solve the issue of the long tail.

Bangladesh would have a balanced attack by picking 4 fast bowlers and a spinner, with a mixture of part time offies and slas should Mominul, Riyad and Nasir play. They could also be Plan B should the pacers have an off day. The strategy would be to look to take wickets and bowl the opposition out rather than playing spinners on surfaces that don’t favour them and allowing the game to meander along. Mashrafe has proved to be a good opening bowler over the years and Al Amin has excelled at the death in recent times. Hathurusingha has shown he can make bold decisions by picking a 19 year old, who hadn’t played a domestic match, in a Test match. Now it’s time for him to make another bold decision by picking 4 fast bowlers, something never done in Bangladesh history.
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Old November 16, 2014, 06:25 PM
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Old November 16, 2014, 06:30 PM
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pretty good stats summery..even though everything points out that we should play 4 pacers i dont think atm we can afford 4 pacers in our 11 man squad

for me i'll take Mash,Taskin(if fit) and Al amin in my starting xi..if taskin is not fit then either Shafiul or Rubel can replace him
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Old November 16, 2014, 06:47 PM
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I don't think our management will risk more than 3 regular pacers. Just wondering why they are not giving Soumya a chance yet, who can be a decent 4th pacer. Nasir can be also handy as a medium pacer, so his exclusion at this point is also puzzling.

Right now, they don't seem to be thinking about which players they need to get ready for the WC.
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Old November 16, 2014, 07:05 PM
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We can try to play 3 pacers in the proposed Zim tour in Jan. Now we should play 2 pacers and try to win the ODI series.
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Old November 16, 2014, 07:12 PM
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Al amin, taskin, mash, rubel, nazmul and shafiul are all pretty decent in ODIs, probably the best 4 if we did go with four would be al amin, mash, taskin and rubel, possibly nazmul for rubel.
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Good argument but to be honest no team in the world would play a 4 man pace attack now a days regardless of the condition unless you have Andy Roberts, Michael Holding, Colin Croft and Joel Garner in your line up!
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Old November 16, 2014, 10:22 PM
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I remember Mushtaq Ahmed played a massive role in Pakistan's triumph along with Wasim Akram and Aaquib Javed - last time World Cup was played in Australia in '92.
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Old November 17, 2014, 03:18 AM
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Am I the only one who would love to see Robiul bowl like he did in zim in the of odi jersey, still have hopes for him. Our odi pacers look good.

Taskin, Mash, Al Amin

Rubel, Shafiul, Robiul
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Old November 17, 2014, 03:21 AM
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Nasir needs to start practicing his medium pace more often could get in 5 overs and we could play an extra batsmen. Soumya and Muktar Ali are the other pace alrounder options.
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Old November 17, 2014, 03:25 AM
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Nasir needs to start practicing his medium pace more often could get in 5 overs and we could play an extra batsmen. Soumya and Muktar Ali are the other pace alrounder options.
Yeah if nasir was a little more serious about his mediums then he'd be a pretty good bowling option in ODIs. Isn't asif ahmed another who bowls pace?
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Is he medium pace or really military pace that he bowls?
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Old November 19, 2014, 02:35 PM
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Pacers were fantastic: Streak
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“Shafiul [Hossain] and Rubel [Hossain] were fantastic as well. I have done some good work with both of them and they are starting to show some good signs. If you look at their career strike rates and what they did in this series, they performed much better and in much tougher bowling conditions,” said Streak.

The inclusion of Mashrafe Bin Mortaza and Al-Amin Hossain are bound to make the pace attack a lot stronger. However Streak wants to further develop players like Abul Hasan and Shafiul and he hopes that they can make an appearance in the upcoming series. Abul, who has been recovering from an injury, has been included in a 30-player list, according to Streak, submitted for the World Cup.

“We have to cut that list to 15 by early January. Maybe some of them will get a chance sometime in the series. But we can't take Zimbabwe lightly. We need to play our best team and try and win the series. Maybe if we get into the right position then we can expose one or two of these guys,” said Streak.

While it's still not sure how many pacers can be exposed here, Streak tries his best to include as many as he can in the practice matches. Yesterday for instance, Abul, Shafiul and Mohammad Shahid, all took two wickets each. Shafiul in particular looked very good.

Despite the dearth of matches prior to the World Cup, the Zimbabwean reckons that there's enough time to prepare the bowlers.

“We are going two weeks before the official warm up period in Brisbane. I think there's more than enough time to get them ready. It's just about making sure that we peak at the right time,” the Zimbabwean believed.
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Old November 19, 2014, 03:53 PM
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Heath Streak did really good job and its shows, our pace bowler now lot more confident.
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Tough for spinners in Australia

In the same period, however, spinners have managed only 312 wickets in Australia - a rate of 6.93 wickets per Test, compared to 24.2 per Test for the fast bowlers. It's the average, though, that's even more glaring: spinners concede 46.16 runs per wicket, which is easily the worst among all countries. In all countries where at least 15 Tests have been played during this period, the average for spinners ranges between 32 and 38: the best is West Indies' 32.75, and the worst - excluding Australia - is 37.43 in New Zealand. Australia is about 23% worse than New Zealand, which says a bit about how much tougher it is for them in Australia compared to other countries. In fact, the difference in averages between No. 1 and No. 8 (West Indies and New Zealand) is less than the difference between No. 8 and No. 9 (New Zealand and Australia). The strike rates aren't so different between Australia and New Zealand because spinners are a lot more economical in New Zealand, conceding 2.70 runs per over, compared to 3.31 in Australia, which is also the highest among all countries.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/807403.html

Interesting stats from S Rajesh. Spinners in Tests in Australia and New Zealand average 46 and 37 respectively.

I know our spinners have done well lately, but the pitches in Australia and New Zealand are completely different.
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Taskin is bowling well in the DPL, he should make the WC squad.
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Taskin is bowling well in the DPL, he should make the WC squad.
what u mean he should he is must
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what u mean he should he is must
Should because you never know what selectors will do, I agree a fit taskin is a must!
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All test playing nations except Bangladesh have minimum TWO trustworthy pace bowler to open the bowling attack. Paniyangara And Chatara are actually pretty decent in terms of line and length in ODIs, hence our batmen struggled against them in three match out of five.

In our attack, only Mashrafe can be trusted for his line and length in the opening spell. The rest of the lot - Abul, Shafiul & Al-Amin sprayed a lot.

In ideal world I would like to see Mashrafee opening the bowling with Taskin Ahmed in WC2015 - both of them have good control over line and length. Rubel Hussain did well as third seamer against ZIM. Al-Amin will be on the bench for this good showing in WI, though he seems to be on downward spiral after being reported.

Mashrafe + Taskin + Rubel plus a specialist spinner will be in my playing eleven in WC2015
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The stats are imo skewed if u take into account the number of spinners there are in contrast to the number of pacers. Usually in a cricket team in Australia there are 4 pacers and maybe 1 spin bowler. Obviously the pacers will take more wickets because there are more pacers in the team.
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We don't need four pacers. This is not our strength.
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none of the sub continent team will go with 4 seamers other than maybe Sri Lanka who has the luxury of having 2 seam allrounders. Regardless of the conditions, it would be wise to play to our strength. Its limited overs cricket and from I am guessing, all the surfaces will be batting friendly. In that case we need to go with 4 full time bowlers and 2 allrounders that are potentially going to be the most economical regardless of the type they bowl. Going with 4 below par seamers would basically mean handing the game to the opposition. Even with 3 seamers, it will be hard for the spinners to grab wickets with the pressure release early on and late in the innings. In limited over cricket, bowlers have the luxury of bowling tight and waiting for the batsmen to throw their wickets. That should be the approach. However I believe that with the bounce and the quickness on offer, our spinners can still be very effecting specially Shakib and Arafat who feature very good arm deliveries.
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BCB selectors in general are trying to stay away from accusations later on by picking all these seamers and inventing seam allrounders so that when we fail in the world cup, they can claim making the correct team. In reality, even Mashrafe with his military 120k medium pace will create little chances. Rest are history unless I have been missing something for the past 14 years as a test cricket nation. Its not the pace we lack but the control. 1 even 2 good deliveries per wont bother the Brits, Aussies, Kiwis, Lankans who are used to playing much better seamers and thats the most consistent our seamers are gonna be.

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^^Agree with rinathq. Even though pitches will be bouncy over there, the grass will be mowed down and rolled well, thus there should not be any issue of spinners finding grip from the pitch. Extra bounce actually also help the spinners, as long they can find turn, like Taijul showed in the Mirpur Test.
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^^Agree with rinathq. Even though pitches will be bouncy over there, the grass will be mowed down and rolled well, thus there should not be any issue of spinners finding grip from the pitch. Extra bounce actually also help the spinners, as long they can find turn, like Taijul showed in the Mirpur Test.
Dont even need turn. most of the wickets our spinners got against Zimbabwe in the ODI series was off arm deliveries or bowling the perfect line and length. I dont think I saw a lot of turn in either Dhaka or Chittagong. Plus, i was just looking at the Big Bash stats. Hogg remains the second highest wickettaker since 2011! Hogg, the guy cant even perform in turning tracks in India and taking more wickets in Aussie conditions! Murli who has become quite ineffective has managed to take lots of wickets in the bigbash while keeping the economy low.
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