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View Poll Results: Who do you recon will be the next debutant in Bangladesh team?
Shamsur Rahman 12 29.27%
Marshall Ayub 5 12.20%
Suhrawardi Shuvo 19 46.34%
Someone else 5 12.20%
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Old August 24, 2009, 07:25 PM
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Three players in above poll are currently pushing their cases for the national team. Given how unstable our top order still is, I think Shamsur Rahman got the best chance.

I have to admit though I am in two minds whether selectors should bring in another debutant in the team before WC'11 or should stick with players that are already capped.
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Old August 24, 2009, 07:26 PM
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I see no khamba i mean poll...I see now. Shamsur Rahman Shuvo. He is an opener if he can bat at number 3 we may see him within a year.
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Old August 24, 2009, 07:37 PM
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s.shuvo i think.

s.shuvo may take the place of either naeem or riyad if they don't pick things up (at this point it looks like naeem would be the one to get dropped rather than riyad). it's better to have a bowling allrounder that low in the order and both naeem and riyad are batting allrounders, whereas s.shuvo is a bowling allrounder and it just gives a bit more security to the bowling line-up imo.

for shamsur to get in he'd have to take either tamim, junaid, raqibul or ash's spot which i think will be tough atm. if junaid was to get dropped imrul would probably get a run before shamsur and if raqibul or ash are left out then naeem, riyad or mushy may get a promotion rather than bring in a new batsman. plus shamsur will have to compete with the likes of SN, alok and aftab when they're allowed back.

so i guess i'd say s.shuvo has the best chance, but the selectors haven't really been partial to him, unless there is injury i think it will be tough for anyone new to come into the batting or allrounder or spinning spots and this is before the ICLers come back into the fold which would make it even tougher. i think there is more of a chance for a new pacer to be debuted, not just because of all the injuries but because of the performances as well.
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Old August 24, 2009, 07:45 PM
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I remember that Selectors mentioned about Shuvo during Sri Lankan Tour of Bangladesh. he wasn't selected because there wasn't anybody to be dropped.

another thing to note: Form is temporary, class is permanent. Usually what happens is the the Players enjoy amazing form but by the time they arrive at the national team, the form deteriorates and we see their average class and then the truth is exposed! That player simply doesn't belong with the elite teams...

if Shuvo is to come most probably he will replace Mehrab Hossain Jr., though unlikely since Mehrab has decent Test Experience under his belt. but for Other Formats, Mehrab will definitely be replaced and Shuvo will likely get his long awaited call.

Ths is EXCELLENT stuff from selectors...they are raising the bar for National Team entry => and this is due to decent cricketers rising to the occassion making it tough for players to enter even with top class performance whereas three years ago or so even a First Class Century was enough to give you a free ticket to an overseas tour. Sensible stuff from Selectors...I like
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Old August 24, 2009, 07:54 PM
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first i thought shamim mia is back with his poll

its a good poll Ehsen, like it.
though i voted for shamsur rahman, i think he will be perfect for 20/20 format (rokib, mehrab out)

but i agree with gowza---i think shohrawardi shuvo has more chances. because he is bowling allrounder and can replace naeem, mahmudullah, enam jr and even razzaq. so he has more chances.
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Old August 24, 2009, 07:55 PM
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is there any other player who should be included in this poll?

i cant remember any name atm. any hints from any body?
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Old August 24, 2009, 07:56 PM
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That is definitely the case, its good for our cricket. Its no longer so easy to become a debutant. But we need to seriously think about grooming another spinner. Shakib has been terrific, but often we rely to much on him. Of course Razzak is there and so is Enamul Haque Jnr. But for some reason i feel neither of these two have been or will be able to fill the void left by Rafique. For that reason i voted for Shuvo.
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Old August 24, 2009, 08:00 PM
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Shuhrawardi Shubho
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Old August 24, 2009, 08:03 PM
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There will be atleast 2 more debutants in few more months.

one of them will be shorwardi shuvo
other one will be a batsman

One of Riyad/Naeem will be dropped from the team. Riyad is more of a batting allrounder. His bowling is not that good. It was against WI Z team he did well so far. He struggled against Zimb team.
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Old August 24, 2009, 08:06 PM
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That is definitely the case, its good for our cricket. Its no longer so easy to become a debutant. But we need to seriously think about grooming another spinner. Shakib has been terrific, but often we rely to much on him. Of course Razzak is there and so is Enamul Haque Jnr. But for some reason i feel neither of these two have been or will be able to fill the void left by Rafique. For that reason i voted for Shuvo.
and there are some good prospects such as s.shuvo, nabil samad, saju datta, saqlain sajib, shabbir rahman and i guess you could include nasir hossain even if he is an allrounder. i agree that i don't think razzak or enamul will fill the void, but maybe they'll surprise us.
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There will be atleast 2 more debutants in few more months.

one of them will be shorwardi shuvo
other one will be a batsman

One of Riyad/Naeem will be dropped from the team. Riyad is more of a batting allrounder. His bowling is not that good. It was against WI Z team he did well so far. He struggled against Zimb team.

I kinda disagree I see signs of Promise in his bowling

Remember, in Zimbabwe, it was in flat Batting tracks, where even Shakib struggled in a
couple of matches
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Old August 24, 2009, 08:10 PM
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^^^ Did anyone notice Riyad was trying to bowl doosra in Zimbabwe.
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Old August 24, 2009, 08:12 PM
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Riyad has improved a lot over the last year or so. He definitely will stay. Yes the track was not favourable for spin, but see guys like Utseya and Price were excellent. The big difference was Utseya and Price used a lot of variation and guile which neither Riyad or Naeem has. Lets give Riyad some time. Already he has improved overall as a player. If he spends more time on his bowling you never know.
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Old August 24, 2009, 08:15 PM
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shakib should learn to bowler the doosra, it's always good to have another variation. i reckon other than the pacer spots naeem's spot is the most up in the air atm, he and riyad basically play the same role but riyad is out playing naeem atm and with the bowling having a bit of trouble recently the most logical thing would be to drop a batting allrounder for a bowling allrounder to sure up the bowling.
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Arrey bhais, where is multiple option choice? I wanted vote for Suhwardy Shuvo and Marshall Ayub and Shamsur Shuvo more, I mean others! But the poll only took one man!
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I think Shamsur and Shuvo will both be debuted in the near future.
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Old August 24, 2009, 09:43 PM
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shuvo shouldn't becouse we got 2 many of his type.. he is left arm orthodox allrounder
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Old August 24, 2009, 09:56 PM
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Got feeling either Shuve1 or Shuvo2 will be next debutant but somehow i voted for my fav. player Marshall Ayub
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shuvo shouldn't becouse we got 2 many of his type.. he is left arm orthodox allrounder
shuvo can come in as either a specialist bowler or a bowling allrounder. i wouldn't be against swapping shuvo for naeem, i'm a fan of naeem but it's pointless to have 2 batting allrounders and have them batting at 7 and 8, even moreso when the bowling is struggling. riyad is doing better than naeem, play shuvo instead of naeem and the team is more balanced.

it would be great for naeem to be in the team but imo he has to be played primarily as a batsman and there isn't really batsmen to drop atm.
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As the domestic season coming up, all of them need to show their form again to come to the national team. ICLers will also be competing. So, things have changed.

I think Shohrowardy Shuvo has a real chance in Test cricket in home condition. As selectors may find Razzak unfit for Test cricket and we can see the inclusion of Shuvo. Again, it will be tough as Enamul is there with all his experience.

I feel Shamsur and Marshall need to wait a bit. All depends how they go in this domestic season. I feel Shahriar Nafees going to push hard this season and eventually come back to the team. So, there goes one place for a batsman. Don't forget Aftab for ODIs as well. Interesting fight ahead!! eventually good for our team.
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I like both shovus. I wouldn't mind if the both get some opportunity in near future.
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shuvo can come in as either a specialist bowler or a bowling allrounder. i wouldn't be against swapping shuvo for naeem, i'm a fan of naeem but it's pointless to have 2 batting allrounders and have them batting at 7 and 8, even moreso when the bowling is struggling. riyad is doing better than naeem, play shuvo instead of naeem and the team is more balanced.

it would be great for naeem to be in the team but imo he has to be played primarily as a batsman and there isn't really batsmen to drop atm.
ya, have same feeling about Nayeem. Its been almost two years of International cricket for Nayeem, still he has not score any half-century yet. One can argue that Nayeem has not got enough chances. Here lies the question, then why are we playing a batsman at that position where he is not getting chance to bat at all in 2 years time, rather just bowling few overs in match. We can always play a bowler there and get better service. Nayeem's batting skills is not an addition in our team anyway.

Promote Nayeem in the top order, play him as a batsman and see what he is capable of.
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To be fair to Nayeem - he has not been given a consistently long enough run to prove his worth. However, I was surprised that Nayeem got the call ahead of Shuvo. I have my money on Shuvo as the other World class player for Bangladesh.
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I have not seen any of those players in action. Would not be wise to elect without knowing their SWOT. Reading newspapers can be misleading so is domestic performance, e.g., Shezan.
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Is it possible to say when our selectors are so unpredictable?
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