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Old November 18, 2009, 09:16 AM
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Default Strategies and team combination to face India in coming test series.

Will our spin strategy work against India in coming test series?If not what should we done? What can be done to boost up the batting?Whom u want to take in the team?Friends Lets talk about the test series.

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Old November 18, 2009, 09:24 AM
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I dont think BD has much chance against India in tests. Their test batting is way too strong. Sachin/Dravid/VVS/dhoni/yuvraj/Gambhir. I think its a bit too much for any bowling attack in a batting friendly pitch. So I say we should make a sporting wicket where runs will be hard to come by
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Old November 18, 2009, 11:39 AM
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I'm very sure that BD will actually win one of the two tests.

I think the team has a better instinct now to go in for the kill and buckle down when needed. I think game 1 will be the best opportunity as we will still have India taking us lightly factor going for us the first completed innings.

I think captaincy will be key and Mash steps aside for Shakib if he is eligible for return.
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Old November 18, 2009, 02:05 PM
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Old November 18, 2009, 02:07 PM
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I dont think BD has much chance against India in tests. Their test batting is way too strong. Sachin/Dravid/VVS/dhoni/yuvraj/Gambhir. I think its a bit too much for any bowling attack in a batting friendly pitch. So I say we should make a sporting wicket where runs will be hard to come by
Our first match is in Chittagong is it possible to make a pace friendly or sporting wicket in CTG?Probably not.So in that case in CTG i want a Flat spin friendly wicket.I want Mash and another pacer. Shakib along with razzak ! But i want a debu of Suhrawardy as 2nd spinner ! I want to play with 9 batsman along with Suhrawardy and i wish atleast a draw there?

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Old November 18, 2009, 06:30 PM
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i highly doubt we will win a test match. its still way to early. but i believe we will give india a bigger fight than we've ever given them before. what i would like to see is us compete for 3 days, and stretch the match out to at least the final session of day 4. i'll be pleased if we take the match into any portion of a 5th day w/out rain help. no more losing inside three days.

i want to see some hundreds, and i want to see pacers taking some wickets. i want to see 5 fers from shakib, and enam contribute as well. i want to see mash and rajib cracking some ribs and striking some helmets. i want to see tendulkar lower his career average, and i want to see his off stump uprooted too. let dravid beat us. i want to see ishant above all hammered into submission, and i would like to see Zak exposed as a mediocre pacer, one step under mortaza (who is just as good as him, at least).

strategies are simple. make them work for runs. no easy singles, can't allow that in test cricket. let them hit boundaries, but make them take risks. need at least 4 catchers around a batsman when the spinners are on. i repeat, no easy singles. don't do what dhoni did for mahela. make them sweat to beat us.

batting wise, play each ball on merit. score 600-650 runs total, and maybe you will have a shot.

selection issues, in my opinion are simple, this is my XI, and may be controversial, but i can back it up:

1) Tamim
2) Junaid
3) SN
4) Rahim
5) Ashraful
6) Shakib
7) Naeem
8) Riyad
9) Mashrafee
10) Shahadat
11) Enam Jr
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Old November 18, 2009, 08:36 PM
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I think good pace attack in addition to good spin attack which we already have will do the trick. It is not one or the other. Have to be both. There are players who will fail against fast bowling and there are players who will fail agains our spin. We need to be calculative and use our resources precisely and be goal oriented. And we have to work REALLY hard not to drop catches. There are no excuses. Our fielding would the key. If we can held catches, we will win.
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Old November 18, 2009, 08:47 PM
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selection issues, in my opinion are simple, this is my XI, and may be controversial, but i can back it up:

1) Tamim
2) Junaid
3) SN
4) Rahim
5) Ashraful
6) Shakib
7) Naeem
8) Riyad
9) Mashrafee
10) Shahadat
11) Enam Jr
Good but I want to add Raqib and JO in place of Zunaid and SN (They are only good in ODIs, and Tests with Zimbos) to give more tenacity, and Rubel in place of Enamul because Indian batsmen are comfortable with spin in this Sub Continent and furthermore, Naeem, Ryad, Shakib and part timer Ash are enough to provide spin for our neighbors.

I have the feeling that Shahadat will be one of the MOMs.

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Old November 18, 2009, 08:56 PM
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Good but I want to add Raqib and JO in place of Zunaid and SN to give more tenacity, and Rubel in place of Enamul because Indian batsmen are comfortable with spin in this Sub Continent and furthermore, Naeem, Ryad, Shakib and part timer Ash are enough to provide spin for our neighbors.
By JO you mean Javed Omar ? We don't need him right now, specially on our ODI team.

Best XI for test:

Tamim
SN
Ash
Rakib
Mushy
Shakib
Naeem
Mash
Shahadat
Enam
Rubel (He needs play time)

Best XI for ODIs:

Tamim
SN
Mushy
Shakib
Ash
Naeem
Alok/Aftab/Nazim/Junaid (Basically any good hitter who can finish it off well)
Mash
Rubel
Rasel
Razzak
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Old November 18, 2009, 09:01 PM
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I dont think BD has much chance against India in tests. Their test batting is way too strong. Sachin/Dravid/VVS/dhoni/yuvraj/Gambhir. I think its a bit too much for any bowling attack in a batting friendly pitch. So I say we should make a sporting wicket where runs will be hard to come by
In case of 2nd test in Dhaka its possible to make a seaming sporting wicket.I am in favour of keeping some grass on the wicket.In that case who will be the partner of Mash.I would prefer Nazmul?

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Old November 18, 2009, 11:26 PM
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Good but I want to add Raqib and JO in place of Zunaid and SN .
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Old November 18, 2009, 11:35 PM
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By JO you mean Javed Omar ? We don't need him right now, specially on our ODI team.

Best XI for test:

Tamim
SN
Ash
Rakib
Mushy
Shakib
Naeem
Mash
Shahadat / Shahadat
Enam
Rubel (He needs play time)

Best XI for ODIs:

Tamim
SN
Mushy
Shakib
Ash
Naeem
Alok/Aftab/Nazim/Junaid (Basically any good hitter who can finish it off well)
Mash
Rubel
Rasel
Razzak
Liked your team, Dhrubo
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Old November 19, 2009, 12:08 AM
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In case of 2nd test in Dhaka its possible to make a seaming sporting wicket.I am in favour of keeping some grass on the wicket.In that case who will be the partner of Mash.I would prefer Nazmul?

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I think there is a huge misconception about sporting wicket. A sporting wicket means a wicket which gives equally to the batters and bowlers. Not necessarily to pacers only. We need to make a wicket where scoring runs wont be easy, and unless a team bats really well the score should not cross 500. That is how the wicket should be. Other wise India will put up something like 690 in first innings, and BD will have nowhere to go other than try to save the game.
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Old November 19, 2009, 12:44 AM
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I honestly don't see India's bowling line-up as a threat...their pacers shouldn't be too hard for this bunch to handle, though I'm pretty sure our idiots will somehow find a way to get out to them. We don't have great players of spin either - the likes of Amit Mishra, who really isn't that great, will probably boost their stats through this tour.

The main problem is, our bowlers will get demolished. Their batting power overall is just a little too strong for this bunch at the moment. Sure, in ODIs Rasel could probably tear through them, but in tests we just don't have many attacking options. Mashrafe would be the only pacer with enough experience to trouble them, and both Enamul and Shakib should do decently. They need some back up though, and I doubt Mahmudullah or Naeem will be enough. Desperately need some decent pacers. We need to find someone to partner Mashrafe, and I wouldn't mind trying Rasel and maybe Nazmul. I suppose Rubel would need to be there too...he's probably a better choice than Shahadat.
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Old November 19, 2009, 02:58 AM
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We will stick with the same lineup that beat WI-

Tamim
Imrul
Junaed
Rokibul
Ashraful
Shakib
Mushfiq
Riyad
Mashrafe
Rubel/Shahadat
Enamul

We should make the CTG pitch like it was against Zim, so that our spinners will be hard to get away. I really hope we can nick a win in this series!!
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Old November 19, 2009, 04:03 AM
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Bowl on or just outside off stump if you're a quick.

Concentrate on keeping your length right if you're a slow bowler.

If you're a batsman, defend the balls that need to be defended, and hit the balls that deserve to be hit.

And if you're fielding, keep alert, keep the effort up, back up and trust your arm
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Old November 19, 2009, 04:10 AM
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We will stick with the same lineup that beat WI-

Tamim
Imrul
Junaed
Rokibul
Ashraful
Shakib
Mushfiq
Riyad
Mashrafe
Rubel/Shahadat
Enamul

We should make the CTG pitch like it was against Zim, so that our spinners will be hard to get away. I really hope we can nick a win in this series!!
I think Razzak has done enough to push Enamul for his spot, and please dont talk about the *ODI specialist* cra*. We lost many years of Rafique in test following that theory. The way Raz has been bowling, we might even play 3 SLA and drop a batsman.
Which will mean 7 Batsman and 5 specialist bowler. [Thanks to Shakib who will be both]
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Old November 19, 2009, 05:44 AM
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Ian's hit the nail on the head.
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Old November 19, 2009, 07:34 AM
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My team for CTG test(Probable spin pitch.)
1.TAMIM
2.IMRUL
3.SN
4.Rock
5.SKB
6.Mushy/Ash
7.Naeem/Mahmudullah/Kapali
8.Dhiman
9.Surawardy/Razzak
10.Mash
11.Nazmul

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Old November 19, 2009, 09:16 AM
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For tests I might go for HaBa

So for the 1st Test my team goes like this:

Tamim
Big Z
HaBa
Ashraful
Raqibul
Al Hasan
Mushfiq
Riyad
Mortaza
Enamul
Shahadat

If SN does exceptionally well in the ODIs then he can be at the top replacing Big Z
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Old November 19, 2009, 11:13 AM
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For tests I might go for HaBa

So for the 1st Test my team goes like this:

Tamim
Big Z
HaBa
Ashraful
Raqibul
Al Hasan
Mushfiq
Riyad
Mortaza
Enamul
Shahadat

If SN does exceptionally well in the ODIs then he can be at the top replacing Big Z

Thats a fair team based on where we are and the recent performances. I'd probably be inclined to put SN as first choice given his last test he had a half century against SA.
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Old November 19, 2009, 12:36 PM
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Old November 19, 2009, 01:17 PM
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If you want to beat a team like India, you have to have plans for each and every batsman, and not deviate from it even if things are not going smoothly at times. They will have partnerships, but we still need to identify each of their weaknesses ( if any ) and try as best as we can to implement it. Also, its important to throw different varieties of bowlers at them. Too often, we settle into this double-triple SLA attack for a predictable long stretch, thus allowing a batsman to settle into the monotonous nature of attack. Individual plan is the key. Shewag will take chances, is sometimes suspect to oncoming inswingers, so setting him up is key. Dravid's patience is legendary, yet he will hit you for boundaries if over pitched through the arc, so maintaining discipline is important. I will crowd the off side for him, and still keep sweepers in the outfield to prevent the boundaries. And most importanly, keep firing the ball slighly outside of off and hold of the length to test his patience. Tendulkar murders anything on middle . One quick flick and its in the boundary. I will form a boundary ring on the leg, and will urge the bowlers to attack the stump. He will go for his shots. I will give him the singles and two's more. Let the old man tire out running for runs. Then comes VVS, and whatever we do with him, make sure Australian game plan against him is not copied, lol. He is a sublime player, and those players take great pride in the artsitry that is involved in their shots. We might have to engage him playing more spin, with different type of spinners operating at him. If we can't get their top four within a reasonale amount of score, then God help us, because Yuvraj and Dhoni will certainly take the game away from us. All plans will fall on the face, and we will be staring at follow on score. I think we should bat first every time we win the toss. Scratch, claw and frustrate away with a time consuming minimum score of 400. Keep them on the field first. Lets hope for the best..
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Old November 19, 2009, 02:24 PM
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I will definitely want to see bouncy wickets for the series. Both our pacers and spinners enjoy bounce from pitch. If we are to win anything, we have to give maximum advantage to our bowlers.
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Old November 19, 2009, 02:29 PM
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Tamim Iqbal
Zunaed Siddique
Shahriar Nafees
Raqibul Hasan
Mohammad Ashraful
Mushfiqur Rahim+
Shakib Al Hasan
Alok Kapali
Mashrafe Mortaza*
Enamul Haque Jr./Naeem Islam/Mahmudullah
Shahadat Hossain

I don't see us winning against India unfortunately. The best we can hope for is a genuine draw (without the help of the weather) in one of the Tests.
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