Match Thread: Bangladesh vs India: Idea Cup, 3rd ODI, Tri-Series at Dhaka (SBNS), January 7th, 2010

[wiseshah]

kayees just made his highest innings in the last match
he was consistent though out DPL 20/20 and ODI---- and he was not looking bad yesterday. I think a 50 plus score is coming on the way.

though DPl and international is diff thing but i think kayes improved and he batted well though out his innings.
and no one will break a 50 plus partnership, do u guys know this is the highest opening partnership in last 10 matches.

[nycpro96]

Originally Posted by Rommel
India has the weakest bowling in this tournament...

Yes but they also have the strongest batting. So, if we bat first, we need runs on the board. So maybe Naeem can open to add some runs.

[Russell2k7]

We don't need to Naeem to open, we need him to accelerate in the end.

[BD-Shardul]

My line up against IND:

Tamim Iqbal Khan
Shahriar Nafees Ahmed
Mohammad Ashraful
Mushfiqur Rahim
Rokibul Hasan
Mahmudullah Riyad
Shakib Al Hasan (Slog)
Nayeem Islam (Slog)
Syed Rasel
Shahadat Hossain
Abdur Razzaq

[Beamer]

Our pace attack is a real worry. No matter how our batsmen does or how many runs we score, I just don't see us putting up any fight without any service from the pace men. Gone are the days of Mash-Rasel giving us quality 20 overs ( with rasel finishing his on the trot ). They are a distant memory now. Its unfair to lay it on the new guys like Shafi and Rubel. They are years away from intl quality. But, we have nobody else to take the mantle. The revolving door of new pacers are reminiscent of the days of revolving openers in and out of the sqaud. We must set up a national pool of selected eight-ten potential quicks and give them all the support staff, training facility, coaches, physios, dietary guidance etc from RIGHT NOW..

[Zeeshan]

Shardul bhai I think I like the way how you arranged your team to give slog overs to Shakib. That may actually be more beneficial than hiring some namby pamby new bowlers for the team.

[Rommel]

Originally Posted by Beamer
Our pace attack is a real worry. No matter how our batsmen does or how many runs we score, I just don't see us putting up any fight without any service from the pace men. Gone are the days of Mash-Rasel giving us quality 20 overs ( with rasel finishing his on the trot ). They are a distant memory now. Its unfair to lay it on the new guys like Shafi and Rubel. They are years away from intl quality. But, we have nobody else to take the mantle. The revolving door of new pacers are reminiscent of the days of revolving openers in and out of the sqaud. We must set up a national pool of selected eight-ten potential quicks and give them all the support staff, training facility, coaches, physios, dietary guidance etc from RIGHT NOW..

agreed.

[Dhrubo]

Originally Posted by Beamer
Our pace attack is a real worry. No matter how our batsmen does or how many runs we score, I just don't see us putting up any fight without any service from the pace men. Gone are the days of Mash-Rasel giving us quality 20 overs ( with rasel finishing his on the trot ). They are a distant memory now. Its unfair to lay it on the new guys like Shafi and Rubel. They are years away from intl quality. But, we have nobody else to take the mantle. The revolving door of new pacers are reminiscent of the days of revolving openers in and out of the sqaud. We must set up a national pool of selected eight-ten potential quicks and give them all the support staff, training facility, coaches, physios, dietary guidance etc from RIGHT NOW..

The problem with our other pacers besides mash and rasel is that they lack control. Mash and rasel realized a long time ago that in international cricket, bowling smart and slightly slower with movement off the seam is more efficient than bowling easy to hit 135kmh "fast" deliveries that have no movement at all. Rubel and shafiul need to work on their accuracy, if they cannot bowl according to the field with their current pace, then they should go slower, but going slower is of course a short term strategy. Pacers like rubel, who have a natural talent for raw speed will have to learn how to control their line and length at 90mph one day. But its a shame to see shahadat lack control over his 125kmh deliveries, I don't think he will ever come back from this slump in form. I agree 100% with you about giving our younger pacers better facilities and coaches, this should help them avoid become someone like shahadat.

[Rommel]

so who was the pacer coach during the 07 WC and why was he fired?

[Dhrubo]

Originally Posted by Rommel
so who was the pacer coach during the 07 WC and why was he fired?

I don't think we had one in the wc 2007...

[tan96]

Drop Rubel,not shafiul.We should give him another chance.

[Rabz]

Going to the match with fellow BCites.
Bought a BD jersey the other day.
Excited.

We shall win, Inshallah.

[WarWolf]

Originally Posted by cricman
after his 1st over vs Sewhag there wont be no more Shafi.

Rasel, Rajib, Nazmul came up the right way A Tours vs England, Zimbabwe, U-19's etc.

Rubel and Shafi have come up via the mashrafe way ... except they can't hold his jock strap. Masri was a 145K Beast and has learned to adapt to even be effective at 135.

These 2 idiots all Testosterone no brains, Rajib hits the right spots and gets wickets some how despite his idiocy

Why we are so intolerant? That was the first game of the boy and he didn't have any experienced partner with him. Why are you guys after the debutant? If we need experience in the pace side then Rubel has to be dropped to give Rasel the spot.

[Nocturnal]

inshallah going to watch this match live on Jan 7 from Mirpur with fellow BC'ers!!
I want to get a "poysha ushul" match....you know what I mean....beating India black and blue

[Rifat]

Originally Posted by Nocturnal
inshallah going to watch this match live on Jan 7 from Mirpur with fellow BC'ers!!
I want to get a "poysha ushul" match....you know what I mean....beating India black and blue

আপনার আশা আল্লাহ পাক পূরন করুক।

[Rifat]

guys,

if you guys are complaining about pace, then whatever happened to Tarek Aziz, Talha Zobair..are they still good enough,in form?

I have heard about Subhashis roy a lot...how is he these days? agree with warwolf, shafiul should be given another chance...

Rubel Hossain bowled ok but not good enough against the likes of TM Dilshan+Sangakkara.

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Eshen
No need to change the team yet, don't chop Shafi off just after his debut match!

Originally Posted by wiseshah
sure. we should play him all 4 matches, so that he can learn some basic and we can lose easily.

Originally Posted by Eshen
Well, I guess you will be happier to see old fools doing the job, ie losing matches, instead of taking your chance with the new guy.

I agree with Eshen bhai. Shafi surely deserves few more chances.

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Russell2k7
Naeem would be wasted at the top order. His position is good at the lower order. We need someone who can accelerate the innings toward the end.

Ditto.

[Nocturnal]

just to share the history when BC'ers got Kiwis alive!! here and here
wiseman says "history reapets itself" ..... I believe him too!!

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Nocturnal
just to share the history when BC'ers got Kiwis alive!! here and here
wiseman says "history reapets itself" ..... I believe him too!!

Abar asha jegey uthlo mone...

[Rabz]

Pasha bhai et all, get ready to make some noise, once again.
We gonna rock the stadium.

[BANFAN]

We need a good pacer; JS rightlly said in his Interview; "Some one forgot to teach them the variations"

Hope they get back Shahadat for this match, He is far superior a bowler than any of the other BD pacers at the moment. He has a lot of varieties and his bouncers or Yorkers could be very effective on these pitches.

I don't find any reason, why he wasn't played in the last match.

[zainab]

The fast bowling coach is useless. Why is BCB persisting with him? Pace bowling has regressed since he was hired. BCB is so slow to rectify errors, they seem to know nothing of cricket.

[al Furqaan]

i hope shafi fixes his line and length...and ditto for rubel (who bowled some good balls).

[revolver]

socca naeem can come at the end and smash everyone...i am also very eager to see zaheer vs tamim...want to see who is more successful this time