facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Cricket > Cricket

Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #26  
Old March 19, 2010, 09:05 PM
Bond Bond is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: March 11, 2010
Favorite Player: Ashraful♥Raqibul foreve
Posts: 1,063

he is my favorite bowler, he bowls better than rubel+shafiul combined together. he's better player than razzak and shakib (combo), i hope to see shahadat in aciton, shahadat play well under ashraful as ash always pumps him up. i miss ashraful_shahadat combo, shakib hardly gives motivation, remember everybody is not ashraful. There is only one ashraful and I assure you, right now he's not even in the bench.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old November 21, 2010, 08:11 AM
Razi's Avatar
Razi Razi is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: March 8, 2008
Location: BanglaCricket.com
Favorite Player: Mashrafe Mortaza
Posts: 4,686

Shahadat fortifies his speed
The Independent, 21 Nov, 2010

When bowling coach Ian Pont arrived in Dhaka during September, he had one part of a mission. That was to find someone with the attributes to be a genuine pace bowler at the highest level. So step forward Kazi Shahadat Hossain, the tall, well built, grunting paceman, with a big heart and many of the attributes Pont is looking for. Yet Shahadat is already an experienced operator at just 24 years of age with 29 Test matches and 46 ODIs under his belt. But Pont has seen that Shahadat has something different. “Shahadat reminds me of Stuart Broad’” said Englishman Pont. “He is tall and is someone who gives 100 per cent effort. That desire to bowl fast is what it’s all about.” Shahadat has been in the preliminary Zimbabwe squad training camp taking place at the Mirpur stadium. And in one or two practices his pace has been up higher. “We did an ABSAT speed session for two days of that camp with all the pace bowlers. Understanding what you are doing and need to do to increase your speed is important if you want to bowl faster. Shahadat is starting to get that.”
At 6 foot 3 inches, he is the tallest of the quicks available to Pont at this time. And it is his height and aggression that Pont is impressed with. “On Bangladesh pitches that are slow and low, you need to be able to swing the ball and have a big heart to keep running in.
If he can produce results here then he can produce anywhere. It is just then down to being consistent and focusing on the basics of hitting his length hard and not floating the ball. Be aggressive, bowl hard into the pitch and keep running in. The rewards will come.”
Shahadat’s action has been technically assessed by Pont and the two have discussed the areas the bowler needs to work. Completing his action and maintaining a locked front leg on bowling have been identified as the parts for improvement. Those changes have started taking place and the results are already improved speed. “It’s never easy to ask a bowler to try things in the middle of a season and expect them to start working immediately. All these things take time.
However, I have been really pleased with Shahadat’s attitude towards the work. If I can get enough access to all the fast bowlers for this type of work then Bangladesh national team and the clubs they play for, will all benefit.” Pont, who has worked with Shoaib Akthar and world number one Dale Steyn, knows what it takes to develop international pacers. The one thing that can make a difference is a passion for pace.
“If there is nothing in your heart, it doesn’t matter what is in your head,” added Pont. “Shahadat has a love for fast bowling and I like that. I am here to help him and anyone else that truly wants to be world class. As long as the bowlers give me their best efforts in training and mentally, then we will see improvements. This isn’t rocket science. But you do have to know how what the sequences are to learning. And that’s where I come in for all the squad bowlers.”
Pont notes that Bangladesh, like neighbours India, cannot find the formula to produce a line of pace bowlers. It’s part of the reason Pont was attracted to coaching in the sub-continent. And like India, he feels that teaching raw speed is not something widely known in this region. “You have to understand how the action works first before you can teach what to do to maximise pace. If the coaches are not teaching this then it is just luck whether fast bowlers come through. The truth is you can create them.”
Pont continued, “whether Bangladesh can have the likes of Rubel, Shafiul and Shahadat bowling real pace in time for the World Cup is really down to the players themselves. I told everyone - including Mash, Nazmul and Rasel - that any uplift in speed is good because things happen faster and the batter has less time. I believe there is no reason why we cannot have 3 or 4 of these bowlers offering pace options to the selectors. The pitches here may end up selecting the team on match day, but my job is to give the head coach and captain a headache in who to leave out. We are already seeing smarter bowling with slower balls, yorkers and greater control. If we can see quicker bowling too, we create an attack that will succeed outside of Bangladesh, too.”
__________________
''I go out to field as if I'm entering the boxing ring and there's no place for the guy who comes second best there.''
– Shakib Al Hasan, World's No-1 Allrounder
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old November 21, 2010, 09:18 AM
yaseer's Avatar
yaseer yaseer is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: August 29, 2004
Location: Brisbane
Favorite Player: Rafique & Pailot
Posts: 6,335

"The pitches here may end up selecting the team on match day, but my job is to give the head coach and captain a headache in who to leave out."

I like Pont's attitude. Seems like he is trying and lets see how the results work out.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old November 21, 2010, 11:00 AM
shakibrulz's Avatar
shakibrulz shakibrulz is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: June 10, 2010
Favorite Player: Shakib Al Hasan
Posts: 4,327

I won't believe him unless I see the results. Bragged a lot about Atul sharma, and we saw what happened.

And he better concentrate improving accuracy, variations etc rather than pace.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old November 21, 2010, 11:30 AM
nycpro96's Avatar
nycpro96 nycpro96 is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: December 17, 2007
Location: Albany
Favorite Player: Tamim Iqbal
Posts: 6,057

I'll be fine if Shahadat can bowl 140 because in recent times, he's struggled to bowl 130 consistently.
__________________
Reporter: You could hit the first ball for 4 couldn't you?
Tamim: Ha, I could hit the first ball for 6, that's not a problem.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old November 21, 2010, 11:44 AM
BanCricFan's Avatar
BanCricFan BanCricFan is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: April 29, 2005
Favorite Player: Bangladesh
Posts: 9,504

Quote:
Originally Posted by Razi
Shahadat fortifies his speed
The Independent, 21 Nov, 2010

If he can produce results here then he can produce anywhere. It is just then down to being consistent and focusing on the basics of hitting his length hard and not floating the ball. Be aggressive, bowl hard into the pitch and keep running in. The rewards will come.”
Shahadat’s action has been technically assessed by Pont and the two have discussed the areas the bowler needs to work. Completing his action and maintaining a locked front leg on bowling have been identified as the parts for improvement. Those changes have started taking place and the results are already improved speed. “It’s never easy to ask a bowler to try things in the middle of a season and expect them to start working immediately. All these things take time.
However, I have been really pleased with Shahadat’s attitude towards the work. If I can get enough access to all the fast bowlers for this type of work then Bangladesh national team and the clubs they play for, will all benefit.” Pont, who has worked with Shoaib Akthar and world number one Dale Steyn, knows what it takes to develop international pacers. The one thing that can make a difference is a passion for pace.
“If there is nothing in your heart, it doesn’t matter what is in your head,” added Pont. “Shahadat has a love for fast bowling and I like that. I am here to help him and anyone else that truly wants to be world class. As long as the bowlers give me their best efforts in training and mentally, then we will see improvements. This isn’t rocket science. But you do have to know how what the sequences are to learning. And that’s where I come in for all the squad bowlers.”
.”
Absolutely spot on. I like the bit him mentioning not floating the ball but hitting the length/deck hard. I mentioned this long time ago about Shahadat collapsing in his delivery stride, hence, losing all the momentum and height advantage.

Shahadat definitely has heart what the coach is asking for but he needs strong descipline and work ethics to become the potent FAST bowler that he should be. Sometimes I feel Rubel lacks self-belief and the "heart" but he is still young. Hopefully, Rubel, Shahadat, Mash, Shafi and Co will come good under the guidance of Pont. All the best to the bowlers and coach!
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old November 21, 2010, 11:53 AM
Nadim's Avatar
Nadim Nadim is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
 
Join Date: September 16, 2008
Location: Guantanamo
Favorite Player: Innocent Bird
Posts: 41,951

I don't like Shahdat, but i'll still pick him in my Test XI instead of Mash.

Shafi+Rubel+Shahdat...best combo in test cricket for us atm.
__________________
Kholi: I hated being on the bench and not playing
our gadhas: I love being on the bench as im getting paid anyway
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old November 21, 2010, 12:06 PM
FagunerAgun FagunerAgun is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: February 18, 2006
Favorite Player: Rafiq and Tendulkar
Posts: 5,636

The best gift that Ian Pont can give us is a new look, well trimmed, well developed Shahadat with his destrucive bowling with great length and line,
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old November 21, 2010, 02:07 PM
Dilscoop Dilscoop is offline
Cricket Guru
Commissioner, MLC
 
Join Date: March 22, 2010
Location: @Dilcommissioner
Posts: 10,791

Quote:
If I can get enough access to all the fast bowlers for this type of work then Bangladesh national team and the clubs they play for, will all benefit.
And he is only working with total of 6 bowlers. This guy have been showing so much dedication since he got year. He wants to work. Please keep him longer
__________________
Always doing Zeeshan's threads a favor.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old November 21, 2010, 03:00 PM
al Furqaan's Avatar
al Furqaan al Furqaan is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: February 18, 2004
Location: New York City
Favorite Player: Mominul, Nasir, Taskin
Posts: 20,931

great read...looks like Pont likes what made us all fall in love with Shahadat 5 years ago...has everything a genuine pacer needs, except the genuine pace (well when he debuted he was quick enough).
__________________
Bangladesh is a stronger team with Shakib al Hasan.
Bangladesh is a stronger team without Shakib al Hasan.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old November 21, 2010, 06:07 PM
ashraful1's Avatar
ashraful1 ashraful1 is offline
Club Cricketer
 
Join Date: October 21, 2009
Location: LONDON
Favorite Player: TAMIM IQBAL
Posts: 174

Yea really nice article, can't wait to see the bowlers and the improvements. Pont is very intelligent and can really bring out the best of someone, here's praying shahdat can bowl some really good pace because that's all he's missing.

Posted via BC Mobile Edition
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old November 22, 2010, 12:27 AM
Bond Bond is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: March 11, 2010
Favorite Player: Ashraful♥Raqibul foreve
Posts: 1,063

Quote:
Originally Posted by shakibrulz
I won't believe him unless I see the results. Bragged a lot about Atul sharma, and we saw what happened.

And he better concentrate improving accuracy, variations etc rather than pace.
Atul Sharma? heard a lot about him, saw some of his videos, the guy is a beast. Haven't seen him in International cricket yet? When will we get to see this bloke, the guy is literally Terminator
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old November 26, 2010, 03:13 AM
cricman's Avatar
cricman cricman is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: February 8, 2005
Location: Deleting Evidence
Favorite Player: Dubya
Posts: 9,418

Leave this Idiot In China
__________________
12.6 Syed Rasel to Sangakkara, OUT: What a delivery, completely fooled Sangakkara, first five delivery were the outswingers and now, this one comes in sharply, Sangakkara tries to left it and ball hits the off stump, top class bowling!
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old November 26, 2010, 04:04 AM
lamisa's Avatar
lamisa lamisa is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: December 18, 2007
Location: Dhaka
Favorite Player: tamim,shafiul,mushy
Posts: 6,743

he should get a few bowling tips from those afghan pacers on what line and lenghth to bowl on!
__________________
haruk ba jituk,i am always there with BDcricket!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old November 26, 2010, 05:33 AM
firstlane firstlane is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: March 8, 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,838

Quote:
Originally Posted by cricman
Leave this Idiot In China
I second that. He is BD's bowler version of ashraful.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old November 26, 2010, 06:00 AM
Habib's Avatar
Habib Habib is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: August 30, 2007
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Favorite Player: A few
Posts: 7,345

Oh please. Shahadat was never considered a good shorter version bowler. It is Nazmul Hossain I'm most disappointed at. His bowling was dudh vat for the Afghans.
__________________
Nevermind
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old November 26, 2010, 06:07 AM
Naimul_Hd's Avatar
Naimul_Hd Naimul_Hd is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: October 18, 2008
Location: Global City of Australia
Favorite Player: Shakib, Mashrafe
Posts: 13,383

cant see any future for Shahadat !!! he has not improved any further rather deteriorated much !
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old November 26, 2010, 09:07 AM
AsifTheManRahman's Avatar
AsifTheManRahman AsifTheManRahman is offline
Super Moderator
BC Editorial Team
 
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,675

From what I saw last night, same ol same ol.

Posted via BC Mobile Edition (Blackberry)
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old March 17, 2012, 12:02 AM
shakibrulz's Avatar
shakibrulz shakibrulz is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: June 10, 2010
Favorite Player: Shakib Al Hasan
Posts: 4,327

Just wondering, should Shahadat be persisted with? I've seen him bowl, and despite way too many boundary balls, he does create wicket taking opportunities with his bouncers especially. Should stick with him as a wicket taking option perhaps?
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old March 17, 2012, 12:10 AM
Dilscoop Dilscoop is offline
Cricket Guru
Commissioner, MLC
 
Join Date: March 22, 2010
Location: @Dilcommissioner
Posts: 10,791

^ I highly doubt he knows what he is doing. He just runs up and throws down w/e comes out. He doesn't have any plan.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old March 17, 2012, 12:17 AM
playmaker playmaker is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: February 21, 2012
Location: Chittagong
Favorite Player: every quality cricketer
Posts: 2,687

id rather have ashraful bowling, and not to mention ash is a way better fielder than shahadat

and as for batting, ash can score us some 15runs from 5 balls...
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old March 17, 2012, 12:24 AM
jeesh jeesh is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: January 4, 2005
Location: Colombo, Sri Lanka
Posts: 2,158

We can use Shahadat Hossain like Sri Lanka uses Dilhara Fernando-an impact bowler who will go for runs but also pick up wickets. But for such a role Shahadat is about 5-7 kph short. Currently he is bowling around 133-135 kph. This is gentle comfortable pace. If he can increase his pace to around 140 kph he ll be a little more difficult to play, also given his height.

But i think we are better off bowling Mashrafee and one of Nazmul/Rubel. Shafiul and Shahadat are both very inconsistent.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old March 17, 2012, 12:28 AM
zinatf's Avatar
zinatf zinatf is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: August 1, 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Favorite Player: Shakib,Sangakkara,Lee
Posts: 4,663

I'd say once Rubel comes back from injury, we should always go with Mash, Rubel and Nazmul in the future
__________________
jitsi jitsi jitsi
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old March 17, 2012, 12:31 AM
firstlane firstlane is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: March 8, 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,838

shahadat will get away bowling rubbish because the team won.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old March 17, 2012, 01:30 AM
playmaker playmaker is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: February 21, 2012
Location: Chittagong
Favorite Player: every quality cricketer
Posts: 2,687

^^

I dont think giving away 81 runs in a match will do him any good. Even teams like Ind and Pak changed their team despite winning
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket