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Old January 23, 2010, 11:37 AM
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What's the point? They'll make him bat at #9 with a couple of fast bowlers. He's a middle order batsman but they won't make full use of his abilities.
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Old January 23, 2010, 11:48 AM
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There is a big gap between our NCL and international level, so lets not screw up another young players career by debuting them against the number 1 side in the world. Nayeem is a middle order batsman who I don't know if dropping IK or SN will make that much of a difference, since Ash isn't getting dropped the only other person we can drop is Rakib, but i think he should get at least another shot. according to cricinfo we are most likely to go with the same squad.
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NCL EQUALS international stage

Show me records of any of domestic spinners, having wonderful figures in international first class tours, then you can talk about bringing other spinners in.
I know NCL not equals international level. The two bowler i have mentioned hardly have any international first class tour record to analyze . But Enams test record against top 8 is really very bad. Just look at both strike rate and average of Enam against top 8. Only exception is second string WI but he palyed only 1 test against them. Thats why i think it is high time to try some body who has better prospect.

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Old January 23, 2010, 11:48 AM
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What's the point? They'll make him bat at #9 with a couple of fast bowlers. He's a middle order batsman but they won't make full use of his abilities.
I don't know maybe they will replace raquibul with him at 5. That's not a bad idea imo.

Either Nafees or raquibul replacement, I wouldn't mind.
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Old January 23, 2010, 11:56 AM
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It is unlikely for Siddons to drop Raqib as he belongs to Siddon's dream team. SN and Ash are the odd numbers there .
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Old January 23, 2010, 12:16 PM
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Naeem is coming in for Rubel as BD is opting to field two pacers instead of three . The two pacers are Shafiul and Rajib.
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Old January 23, 2010, 12:49 PM
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I don't think Naeem would have been inducted unless they were seriously thinking of playing him. There were plenty to carry the drinks.

It looks like SN has been sold as "good against spinners". If so, why at No. 3 ?

I would have dropped SN and Kayes and taken on Zunaid and Naeem. Looks like Rubel will give way to Naeem.
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Old January 23, 2010, 01:14 PM
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It seems like I am getting half my wish ! Daily Star is speculating that SN will be replaced by Naeem.
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Old January 23, 2010, 01:18 PM
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Only the disturbing fact in the line up is, selectors are not getting rid of the idea of Enam jr. as the second best spinner, when we have spinners like Saqlain Sajib and Suhrawardy who are doing so good at NCl and has a great potential at international level. Enam jr is just ordinary against G8.
Enam Jr took 5 wickets against WI in his last Test game. What's your point?

He is not ordinary against G8. How many tests he played against them?
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Old January 23, 2010, 01:22 PM
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naim will play??
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Old January 23, 2010, 01:33 PM
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Enam Jr took 5 wickets against WI in his last Test game. What's your point?

He is not ordinary against G8. How many tests he played against them?
that was against a B-rate WI team
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Old January 23, 2010, 01:34 PM
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naeem is prob. not playing. he has been brought in for the NZ trip
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Old January 23, 2010, 01:58 PM
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zunaid ke o abar quality player mone hoe na. naeem should replace SN. and shafiul er bodole razzak or enamul jr.
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Old January 23, 2010, 02:08 PM
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naeem should replace ashraful

junayed should replace imrul/SN
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Old January 23, 2010, 02:08 PM
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If Naeem does not play the 2nd Test, then he shouldn't have been included in the 2nd Test. Rather he could play in NCL.
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Old January 23, 2010, 02:11 PM
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zunaid ke o abar quality player mone hoe na. naeem should replace SN. and shafiul er bodole razzak or enamul jr.
Razzak in Test? of course not. Emamul- may be, but there are better spinners playing in the NCL. If any spinner is added, I wouls support Shuruwardi or Saqlain.
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Old January 23, 2010, 02:13 PM
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Welcome Naeem.
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Old January 23, 2010, 02:19 PM
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he is likely to replace Imrul. SN will probably promoted to number 2.
Question: How is this pitch going to be. Is it flat? Will it crack or flatten out as the match goes on?
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Old January 23, 2010, 02:23 PM
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Razzak in Test? of course not. Emamul- may be, but there are better spinners playing in the NCL. If any spinner is added, I wouls support Shuruwardi or Saqlain.

amar point hocche shafiul er theke razzak / enamul better batting kore. rubel er defense pretty solid. he can hang in the crease for a long time. but yeah ur right. razzak er theke enamul much better test spinner.
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Old January 23, 2010, 03:24 PM
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Enam Jr took 5 wickets against WI in his last Test game. What's your point?

He is not ordinary against G8. How many tests he played against them?


You know that WI team was not in full strength. He played total 11 tests against top teams excluding WI, performance was very ordinary, check the link in post 27.

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Old January 23, 2010, 03:32 PM
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well full strength na hoileo.. or ball er onek turn ase.
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Old January 23, 2010, 04:05 PM
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hopefully they play him, otherwise he should have been left to play in the NCL. i guess siddons is high on SN and has the same issue as many others when it comes to ash (always wants to give him just one more chance).
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Old January 23, 2010, 04:39 PM
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hopefully they play him, otherwise he should have been left to play in the NCL. i guess siddons is high on SN and has the same issue as many others when it comes to ash (always wants to give him just one more chance).
they wouldnt have called him back if they arent going to play him. it wouldnt make any sense if they dont play hum
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Old January 23, 2010, 05:15 PM
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they wouldnt have called him back if they arent going to play him. it wouldnt make any sense if they dont play hum
PA said it's in regard with the upcoming NZ tour...well, let's see.
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Old January 23, 2010, 05:17 PM
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I have a problem with the logic of not equating domesctic matches and international matches and then based on that, not emphesizing the value of domestic performance. My understanding is that players should be considered for international matches only if they perform well in domestic matches. So there is link between domestic and international matches. Does not necessarily means that performing well in the domestis equates to performing well in international matches. However, players who are already in the national team, must perform excellent in the domestic cricket. It makes sense because they have domestic experience and on top of that, internatioal experience. My problem is that if our national players do not perform well in the domestic matches and others without being in the national team are doing much better, then we need to think about it.
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Old January 23, 2010, 05:25 PM
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^ Yorker, that has been one of my believes for a while now. If one can not swim in the swimming pool, how do you expect him/her to cruise in the ocean? I think we[all test teams] should go back to 1950s style team selection, when there used to be 3-4 game played between the top 30odd players in the nation and the best performers there would make the national team
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