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Old January 27, 2010, 06:34 AM
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Magnanimous in victory against a side which is young in international cricket, star Indian batsman Sachin Tendulkar went to the Bangladesh dressing room after the end of the second Test and patted the home side players for their good performance.

Tendulkar, who was presented a momento by the series sponsors for becoming the only batsman to have scored 13,000 Test runs, went to the home side dressing room after the presentation ceremony in company of their assistant coach Khalid Mahmud.

Tendulkar told the Bangladesh players that except for the batting collapse in their second innings today they played well in the three innings and they will keep on improving with experience.

Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan, on his part, said at the post-match press conference that the players were delighted to have words of praise from a star player like Tendulkar.

"We are an improving side. Even a star player like Tendulkar said we are improving and will learn with experience,"he said.
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Old January 27, 2010, 06:48 AM
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Old January 27, 2010, 06:50 AM
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Always an improving side. When can we shed this title?
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Old January 27, 2010, 06:54 AM
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Sir Tendulkar really true ambassador of gentlemanship. Thanks Tendulkar.

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Old January 27, 2010, 06:58 AM
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A small question. Does anyone here know how many years it took the current #1 ranked Test team to win it's first Test match after it got it's Test playing status ?

20 years !! That's right. Bangladesh has won it's first Test even before it completed it's first 10 years of Test cricket. Yes, it was against Zimbabwe, but don't you think there were minnows during India's time yet it took 20 damn years for them to win their first Test ? Also, Bangladesh was on the brink of winning a Test match against Pakistan back in 2003/04. Luckily Pakistan escaped. That was just 3/4 years after Bangladesh started playing Test cricket.
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Old January 27, 2010, 07:03 AM
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A small question. Does anyone here know how many years it took the current #1 ranked Test team to win it's first Test match after it got it's Test playing status ?

20 years !! That's right. Bangladesh has won it's first Test even before it completed it's first 10 years of Test cricket. Yes, it was against Zimbabwe, but don't you think there were minnows during India's time yet it took 20 damn years for them to win their first Test ? Also, Bangladesh was on the brink of winning a Test match against Pakistan back in 2003/04. Luckily Pakistan escaped. That was just 3/4 years after Bangladesh started playing Test cricket.
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Old January 27, 2010, 07:52 AM
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this is why all love and respect S.R Tendulkar despite of having heavy hammering from him
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People against BD test status say that NZ/India did take more than 20 years to win, but they had much fewer games etc etc. But my point is, its time that develops a cricketing nation, not merely the number of games. Give another 3-4 to the current bunch and you will see how this BD team makes every cricket website/article say *top 9 teams are playing......* instead of *top 8 teams......*
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Old January 27, 2010, 08:40 AM
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this is why all love and respect S.R Tendulkar despite of having heavy hammering from him
would you rather he said ''you are all crap, stop playing test cricket'' ?

tendulkar has given words of encouragement to a young side , why are you trying to find a hidden agenda in it ?
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Old January 27, 2010, 08:44 AM
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A small question. Does anyone here know how many years it took the current #1 ranked Test team to win it's first Test match after it got it's Test playing status ?

20 years !! That's right. Bangladesh has won it's first Test even before it completed it's first 10 years of Test cricket. Yes, it was against Zimbabwe, but don't you think there were minnows during India's time yet it took 20 damn years for them to win their first Test ? Also, Bangladesh was on the brink of winning a Test match against Pakistan back in 2003/04. Luckily Pakistan escaped. That was just 3/4 years after Bangladesh started playing Test cricket.
And who can forget their lowest test score 45 all out against England sometime in 1971 under Ajit wadekar captaincy.
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Old January 27, 2010, 08:57 AM
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A small question. Does anyone here know how many years it took the current #1 ranked Test team to win it's first Test match after it got it's Test playing status ?

20 years !! That's right. Bangladesh has won it's first Test even before it completed it's first 10 years of Test cricket. Yes, it was against Zimbabwe, but don't you think there were minnows during India's time yet it took 20 damn years for them to win their first Test ? Also, Bangladesh was on the brink of winning a Test match against Pakistan back in 2003/04. Luckily Pakistan escaped. That was just 3/4 years after Bangladesh started playing Test cricket.
In the period you mentioned they played 25 matches lost 12 drew 12 and won 1. Almost like 1 test per year. With world war in between there was no cricket for them between 1936 and 1946.

In that period

Played 25 lost 12 drawn 12 won 1

Bangladesh upto now

Played 63 lost 54 won 3 draw 6

How exactly you can compare two teams. You have to toss this repeated argument aside. They were playing in an era where they were fighting for freedom. You are playing an era where cricket has expanded to unprecedented level.


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Old January 27, 2010, 09:03 AM
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A small question. Does anyone here know how many years it took the current #1 ranked Test team to win it's first Test match after it got it's Test playing status ?

20 years !! That's right. Bangladesh has won it's first Test even before it completed it's first 10 years of Test cricket. Yes, it was against Zimbabwe, but don't you think there were minnows during India's time yet it took 20 damn years for them to win their first Test ? Also, Bangladesh was on the brink of winning a Test match against Pakistan back in 2003/04. Luckily Pakistan escaped. That was just 3/4 years after Bangladesh started playing Test cricket.
another small question. does anyone here know how many tests the current #1 ranked Test team played in those '20 damn years' it took them for the first test win against a top side, (england) ? never mind that there were no tests for 11 of those 20 years and only 2-3 tests per year for most of the other 9 years.

25 tests !! That's right. Bangladesh has played 52 tests so far (against top sides) without registering a single win against a non-minnow side. forget winning, there has been not a single drawn test against a top side without help from weather.
the current #1 ranked Test team drew its very 3rd home test and the 3rd away test, both against england, a top side.
and sir, please tell us who were the minnows in the period we are talking about and if the current #1 ranked Test team played them.

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would you rather he said ''you are all crap, stop playing test cricket'' ?

tendulkar has given words of encouragement to a young side , why are you trying to find a hidden agenda in it ?
hidden agenda ?? did i sound so ? anyway, never mind !
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Old January 27, 2010, 09:13 AM
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People against BD test status say that NZ/India did take more than 20 years to win, but they had much fewer games etc etc. But my point is, its time that develops a cricketing nation, not merely the number of games. Give another 3-4 to the current bunch and you will see how this BD team makes every cricket website/article say *top 9 teams are playing......* instead of *top 8 teams......*
there is some truth to what you say. but you also have to consider the prevailing social and political condition in India. say BD was playing test cricket as a separate nation in the period 1966-72, would it be fair to judge their performance against that of a stable country with cricketing infrastructure in place, the BD of 2000's ?

in 30's and 40's the board couldn't afford to send players to play overseas, it had to depend on help from whimsical rajas and maharajas to bankroll them (who often demanded a place in the side in return). one can easily imagine what the training facilities and domestic infrastructure would have been like. and those big breaks did nothing to help the players develop, in the absence of a proper domestic season, one or two tests a year was a perfect recipe for disastrous results.
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Old January 27, 2010, 09:29 AM
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And who can forget their lowest test score 45 all out against England sometime in 1971 under Ajit wadekar captaincy.
every country has its share. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content...ds/145832.html

check out pakistan in 2002, http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64002.html
59 all out in 1st innings and 53 all out in 2nd !
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Old January 27, 2010, 09:38 AM
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Always an improving side. When can we shed this title?
We are improving. You think they don't improve? Had they been stagnant we could have caught them by now. In real world, specially in sports, there is a revolution of continuious improvement. Total Quality Management (TQM) approach. You can call six Sigma etc.

Even #1 team has room to improvement. Fielding and bowling.
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Old January 27, 2010, 10:16 AM
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Plz dont measure BD by number of matches. Matter of time is the most important fact. India got 20 years. Give BD atleast 15 years. You will find Bangladesh a top nation. Improvement doesnt come overnight by playing more matches. Aminul, Akram, Nannu cant be a world beater irrespective of how many matches they played. Their generation ruled BD cricket till 2004. Then comes next generation consisting of Ash, Nafees, Mash, Talha, Sharif etc. They were better than their previous generation but still not worthy for winning test matches. Now we have Shakib generation, which consistently avoiding innings defeat and sometime giving some scares to opponents. We will see our next generation cricketer is giving scare to opponent and sometime pulling some stunning who. Their next generation will start to win regularly as any other top nations. It will take atleast 15 years.

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Old January 27, 2010, 10:23 AM
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every country has its share. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content...ds/145832.html

check out pakistan in 2002, http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64002.html
59 all out in 1st innings and 53 all out in 2nd !

Only Pakis and BD has the tendency of throwing themselves in the well like this....
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Old January 27, 2010, 10:31 AM
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A small question. Does anyone here know how many years it took the current #1 ranked Test team to win it's first Test match after it got it's Test playing status ?

20 years !! That's right. Bangladesh has won it's first Test even before it completed it's first 10 years of Test cricket. Yes, it was against Zimbabwe, but don't you think there were minnows during India's time yet it took 20 damn years for them to win their first Test ? Also, Bangladesh was on the brink of winning a Test match against Pakistan back in 2003/04. Luckily Pakistan escaped. That was just 3/4 years after Bangladesh started playing Test cricket.
Of which about 10 years were lost in world war and partition etc. It was not India's achievement alone that India didn't win any games in 30s and 40s. Bangladesh and Pakistan also were also responsible to such performance as they were part of India prior to partition. No point shirking that responsiblity! With in 10 years after they resumed playing after partition they were able to beat most sides every once a while. I can point out that India started to win after partition, hence it is the fault of Pakistan or Bangladesh .

At any rate, Bangladesh should worry about its today's performance as they have in excess of 50 innings defeat already in such a short time. Whether Bangladesh will ever win meaningful games other than against Zimbabwe or some other team playing with second string side is still a matter of question. Just pointing out Indias record in 1940s and 30s is nice way of hiding ones current showing. Point is if you insist India didn't win early on, I should point out that it took Bangladesh 50 years to get where India was in 1950 with regards to cricket.
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there is some truth to what you say. but you also have to consider the prevailing social and political condition in India. say BD was playing test cricket as a separate nation in the period 1966-72, would it be fair to judge their performance against that of a stable country with cricketing infrastructure in place, the BD of 2000's ?

in 30's and 40's the board couldn't afford to send players to play overseas, it had to depend on help from whimsical rajas and maharajas to bankroll them (who often demanded a place in the side in return). one can easily imagine what the training facilities and domestic infrastructure would have been like. and those big breaks did nothing to help the players develop, in the absence of a proper domestic season, one or two tests a year was a perfect recipe for disastrous results.
Absolutely correct you are. I am not saying that India/NZ performed below expectations. Every single cricketing nation has to go through this phase. Its part of the growth. But the problem is, people are now hurried into making decisions such as *Take the test status*. but you have to give a country time.
I for one think BD got test status 5 years earlier than time. And if you look at the performance at that time, it will show why. Many can shout about Infra structure and stuff, but the truth is, we weren't ready for test cricket in 2000.
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If BD really wants recognition they have to do well against England or Australia not even India. Press coverage will be far more for matches against England and Australia.
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