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Old January 27, 2010, 06:59 PM
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Default Rajib Roars and the Art of Reverse Swing

Rajib Roars and the Art of Reverse Swing
Asaad Wahid

Asaad Wahid hearkens back to the day he saw greatness in the making when the enigmatic Shahadat Hossain Rajib delivered some of the finest examples of reverse swing. Rajib has all the prototypical characteristics of a genuinely quick bowler: everything from aggression, to facial gestures, to his stare-downs of opposing batsmen.

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We just published an article by al Furqaan. After all the doom and despair from the India series Rajib's re-emergence has been wonderful to see.

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Old January 27, 2010, 07:23 PM
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Excellent read!

Not sure about Asad's claim that reverse swing works better in hot weather though. Wasim and Waqar used reverse swing well in England. In 2005 Ashes, English bowlers also used reverse swing well against Aussies.

IMO, we may see reverse swing used more on subcontinental pitches because the ball gets old faster on hard pitches here (same reason we see spinners used more often here).
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Old January 27, 2010, 08:00 PM
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Fantastic article,tells almost everything one might want to know about the quickee that is Shahadat Hossain.
A couple of facts about reverse swing: the red kookaburra ball reverses around 40-45 overs in sub continent conditions, where the white one used in limited overs usually reverses around 30 over mark.
In order to get the ball to reverse, the ball must stay absolutely dry. If you notice, you would see teams in sub continent dont spit on the ball nowadays to ensure that the ball remains dry.
Unlike traditional swing, reverse swings helps quicker bowlers, as optimum swing occurs when a bowler reaches 90mph. But again, the more time in the air the ball has, the more it will swing.
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Old January 27, 2010, 08:06 PM
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Rajib's reverse swing is more subtle though, he does not get the ball to shape away like Pakistanis do, which in fact can be deceiving.
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Old January 27, 2010, 08:45 PM
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This is one of the best panegyric I've read in a long time. Well done.
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Old January 27, 2010, 08:58 PM
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Great read indeed. Asaad bhai for BC writer's award!
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Old January 27, 2010, 09:15 PM
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Great read indeed. Asaad bhai for BC writer's award!
zeeshan's shakespear-giri was top-notch creativity though...creativity unsurpassed.
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Excellent read!

Not sure about Asad's claim that reverse swing works better in hot weather though. Wasim and Waqar used reverse swing well in England. In 2005 Ashes, English bowlers also used reverse swing well against Aussies.

IMO, we may see reverse swing used more on subcontinental pitches because the ball gets old faster on hard pitches here (same reason we see spinners used more often here).
i read the hot thingy somewhere once...can't remember where.
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Old January 27, 2010, 09:29 PM
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superb read
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Old January 27, 2010, 09:37 PM
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just a couple of additional points.
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In order to get the ball to reverse, the ball must stay absolutely dry. If you notice, you would see teams in sub continent dont spit on the ball nowadays to ensure that the ball remains dry.
they do spit on the ball, but only on one side. the other side is kept roughed up and the shiny side is polished with spit and sweat so that it gets heavier. reverse swing happens because the centre of gravity shifts away from the centre of the ball towards the shiny side. that's why when the ball is delivered the ball moves towards the shiny side.

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i read the hot thingy somewhere once...can't remember where.
you are correct. because in most situations, hot = dry.
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Old January 27, 2010, 09:45 PM
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^ well have a look at this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAp5Y4YbYP0 Tells you almost everything you may want to know about reverse swing, described by the great Wasim himself. And he mentioned that when Saqlain Mushtaq first came into the team, he spat on the ball. And him and waqar warned Saqlain to never do that, otherwise Ws will kill him
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And, I will write an article like this ( though of not such high quality ) in five years about Rubel, if I last that long in BC..
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Old January 27, 2010, 10:19 PM
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And, I will write an article like this ( though of not such high quality ) in five years about Rubel, if I last that long in BC..

You know you can write. You know you can all write.

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^ well have a look at this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAp5Y4YbYP0 Tells you almost everything you may want to know about reverse swing, described by the great Wasim himself. And he mentioned that when Saqlain Mushtaq first came into the team, he spat on the ball. And him and waqar warned Saqlain to never do that, otherwise Ws will kill him
previously players used to shine both sides of the ball with spit, that's what wasim is saying here. of course he will not get into the details. watch any match in subcontinent involving Ind or Pak, you will find that the players keep on working on one side of the ball, with spit & sweat.
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Old January 28, 2010, 04:00 AM
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good article on Shahadat Rajib...He deserves

thanx to Asaad Bhai
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previously players used to shine both sides of the ball with spit, that's what wasim is saying here. of course he will not get into the details. watch any match in subcontinent involving Ind or Pak, you will find that the players keep on working on one side of the ball, with spit & sweat.
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Thanks Asaad for the wonderful piece.
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Old January 28, 2010, 07:02 AM
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previously players used to shine both sides of the ball with spit, that's what wasim is saying here. of course he will not get into the details. watch any match in subcontinent involving Ind or Pak, you will find that the players keep on working on one side of the ball, with spit & sweat.
Apologies, after some more reading it seems like they do spit on the ball to make one side heavier. It was the small bit on the video that probably gave me a false impression for some reason.
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Old January 28, 2010, 09:39 AM
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Great article al Furqan bhai.
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Old January 28, 2010, 02:31 PM
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Apparently he said "It is good that such a good batsman is injured from my delivery." regarding Dravid. I think that is an immature statement to make...
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Well, he was more saying that "It was a good ball because it managed to injure a batsman as good as Dravid".
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Old January 28, 2010, 03:14 PM
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Well, obviously he wasn't happy that it broke Dravid's jaw; he was happy that he got a batsman of Dravid's stature into such a big tangle.
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Its a dirty secret, but great fast bowlers like hurting batsmen.

Breaking The Wall was important for Rajib, and for Bangladeshi cricket ; it means if their quicks go the bash, we have someone who is known to be able to crack heads.

And thats important.
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