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February 25, 2010, 01:14 AM
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I say, we definately need more teams in domestic and make out two leagues like england... that way we can actually see the 2nd tier players falling off... (yes i consider nazimuddin second tier)
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February 25, 2010, 02:34 AM
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We should give their chance to player from U19 they are the future
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February 25, 2010, 02:53 AM
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no consistency
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February 25, 2010, 03:25 AM
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nazimuddin has always been a big scorer domestically and despite people saying that he's inconsistent he has always been consistent in domestic FC cricket. a couple of years ago he was averaging 37/38 and this season with the double hundred and this recent hundred he's building it back up to 37/38 (think it was in the 36s before this match). in list A's he's always been inconsistent, he seems to be somewhat like faisal, consistent domestically despite major flaws in his game, flaws that we found out immediately when he got given a chance in the national team.
this is where the selectors need to be going around and watching players very carefully during the DPL and NCL matches. it's not just about consistency, the selectors need to make sure the players have the technique to survive at international level and they have to make sure the talent and attitude and mental toughness is there before selecting someone. one thing that is very tough to judge is whether the players have the eye to pick up the ball early enough and to judge what it's going to do at the international level, that's something that is kind of a wait and see once they've been selected, obviously make sure they can do it domestically but it gets harder at the international level.
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February 25, 2010, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fais
no consistency
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Nadimudi: ''...who cares??!! I hit sixes off Bond  ''
Me: 
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February 25, 2010, 05:20 AM
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I wish if we could have any right handed TAMIM ! :|
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February 26, 2010, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by offstump
after completion of NCL, performers should be rewarded with chances to play in A team, u-23, u-19 and perhaps a over25 team
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The age-based and academy teams play other age-based and academy teams and get more games than our A Team. There's a huge gap between the highest level and the age-based and academy teams also.
The A Team is the reserve team of the senior side and shouldn't be lumped together with the age-based and academy teams, and our A Team should be scheduled to play a LOT more to better develop and equip our domestic performers. Only that can give them a better chance of succeeding at the highest level. In the meantime, let the guys in the senior side continue to learn on the job unless they 1) continue to fail and get worse like Motin, or 2) lack the basic hand-eye coordination to sight quality deliveries early, find gaps and rotate the strike with ease, like DA ROK ...
The revolving door/JDJ has never worked in the past will never work in the future IMHO.
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February 26, 2010, 09:24 PM
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I had a big expectation from Nazimuddin, but unfortunately, he kept on suffering from inconsistency.
Still expect he will be back in our T/20 team and present us some entertaining batting spells.
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February 27, 2010, 12:01 PM
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Nazimuddin just sucks. Even Javed Omar was better than him.
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February 27, 2010, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dhrubo
Nazimuddin just sucks. Even Javed Omar was better than him.
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No doubt.
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February 27, 2010, 08:44 PM
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Oh my goodness! why?
Did you not watch him bat so terribly in Asia cup? Did you not watch any of his games?
Watching him bat hurts my precious eyes!!! It blinds me!!!
okay yes he scored a 100...but thats not going to change my opinion on how terrible he is! I don't even think I can call him a batsmen... like ewww!
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February 27, 2010, 10:18 PM
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Nazimuddin I think is from Chittagong!
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February 27, 2010, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bujhee kom
Nazimuddin I think is from Chittagong!
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yes he is. Thats a disgrace to Tamim Iqbal =\
( yes, i really don't like Nazimuddin)
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February 28, 2010, 12:21 AM
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Its just unbelievable..the guy didnt do good in the asia cup true..but bashing him like hes a **** player? Cmon now hes got a much better average then Aftab in domestic FC cricket and yet people think of aftab as a good batsman and Nazim as complete trash..i bet if nazim got as many chances he would do as good or better then aftab..the guy had scored big on many occasions in domestics at least..aftab cant score in any form of game..it mite seem like im an aftab hater but i do like aftab but people overrating him like this is just getting me on my nerves..
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February 28, 2010, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiger444
Its just unbelievable..the guy didnt do good in the asia cup true..but bashing him like hes a **** player? Cmon now hes got a much better average then Aftab in domestic FC cricket and yet people think of aftab as a good batsman and Nazim as complete trash..i bet if nazim got as many chances he would do as good or better then aftab..the guy had scored big on many occasions in domestics at least..aftab cant score in any form of game..it mite seem like im an aftab hater but i do like aftab but people overrating him like this is just getting me on my nerves..
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TBH, I don't rate aftab very high either. Players like aftab and nazim should go play 6 a side. I wasn't aware of the fact that Nazim had a better average =O.but ye I have something against that guy. It's as if we were born to hate each other.
I've just had enough of irresponsible batsmen like Aftab, Ash and nazim.
I agree that Aftab can not score in any from of the game. I was shocked to see him in the test squad for NZ. He clearly does not have the talent to play test! Nor can he score in ODIS. He even sucks at the Cr@ppy from of cricket ( T20). But the again, i don't see any talent in Nazimuddin. If slogging in the 2nd over and getting out like an idiot is considered 'talent", then I rather untalented players in the team!  yes one can say that tamim does that, but at least tamim does it in style and can actually get away with it unlike Nazim. I know that all our players have a tendancy to get out like an idiot, but there is a difference between getting out like an idiot in the 20th over and getting out in the 1st or 2nd one. Yes, even the best batsmen in the world at times get out in the 1st over, but they way he gets himself out !? uff.
Anyway, i guess i am just a Nazim basher and will probably never like him and nothing can make me like him.
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February 28, 2010, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Antora
TBH, I don't rate aftab very high either. Players like aftab and nazim should go play 6 a side. I wasn't aware of the fact that Nazim had a better average =O.but ye I have something against that guy. It's as if we were born to hate each other.
I've just had enough of irresponsible batsmen like Aftab, Ash and nazim.
I agree that Aftab can not score in any from of the game. I was shocked to see him in the test squad for NZ. He clearly does not have the talent to play test! Nor can he score in ODIS. He even sucks at the Cr@ppy from of cricket ( T20). But the again, i don't see any talent in Nazimuddin. If slogging in the 2nd over and getting out like an idiot is considered 'talent", then I rather untalented players in the team!  yes one can say that tamim does that, but at least tamim does it in style and can actually get away with it unlike Nazim. I know that all our players have a tendancy to get out like an idiot, but there is a difference between getting out like an idiot in the 20th over and getting out in the 1st or 2nd one. Yes, even the best batsmen in the world at times get out in the 1st over, but they way he gets himself out !? uff.
Anyway, i guess i am just a Nazim basher and will probably never like him and nothing can make me like him.
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wow apa you really hate the guy lol..the fact is he has an average of a 40 in FC cricket with 9 centuries..that is a whole lot of tons..so the guy must have talent..otherwise he would not be averaging so high..the problem is he has big time technique and footwork problems that really hold him back..to be a great batsman technique is extremely important otherwise youll struggle in international cricket..i would not bring him back just yet but i think 1 more of performing in the DPL and NCL and this guy should get a chance again..but i agree on the part of having irresponsible batsmen..we need 2 find batsmen that are not only talented, but also have a cool head and are willing to work hard and try 2 improve their deficiencies..
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February 28, 2010, 01:24 AM
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I'm not a fan on nazimuddin; but the label of inconsistency is too harsh by BD standard. How can you even say on the basis of 7 ODIS that he is inconsistant? Our most of the top orders have failed to make a 50+ score in every 7 matches. Be it Aftab, Junaid, Imrul, Rok, Ash, .....
I think he really didnt get enough time to improve & get settled in National Team, like the above. In fact I would have preferred him over Aftab, any day. He has better defense than Aftab and in attacking strokes they are similar. That's the reason he reaches to biger scores, much more often than Aftab.
However shitie the domestic pitches & bowlers are; It's not fair to discredit someone for scoring big there, while every/most players tries to do the same without success.
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February 28, 2010, 11:24 AM
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Never mind Nazimuddin, Nadimuddin scored 147 today!
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April 13, 2010, 10:59 PM
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35 of 21 vs dhaka
33 of 25 against rajshahi and given controversially out, and he was playing actually responsible cautious cricket
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April 14, 2010, 12:28 AM
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I have been a great admirer of Nazim. He has potential, aggressiveness like Tamim and is a big hitter. What he doesn't have are technique and temperment WHICH can be developed.
See problem with our cricket is not that there is dearth of talent...but the fact that we don't nurture and cultivate them. Nazim impressed me lot with his ICL brutality. A great fan, I think some coach needs to work with him more closely and help him finetune his technique and 'find his natural game'.
See it's just like school. First you select a major. Then zone in on it. Complete AA. Then BA. Then phD. You don't just try to master all the known fields of anthropology, say, like try to get degrees in all the known tribes of the world for instance.
Similarly, we need to select a handful of delta force like squad, and some coaches need to spend some time on them, work closely, zone in on their weaknesses and difficulty and fine tune their skills.
But noooooooo.....the moment we get bored of a player, we put him on crucible and ask for another. Again, enters a player with enormous talent but soon we get bored because he can't deliver. So what do we do? Yup that's right. Get another prodigy or sensation. And hence the recuriosn starts...
And we b!tch about of not knowing where our problem lies? Smfh. Imagine taking the current lot and groom them up by scrutinzing their faults over and over again getting rid of their bad faults and techniques...and we should have a pretty deadly WC 2011 squad.
This is how a team is made. Constraint is the key to creativity; freedom is not. Alas! We got too much degree of freedom because every now and then someone arises with tons of talent in domestic squad but no hard work, determination or perseverance.
Even the greatest geniuses need years and years of familirization of their subject before they get intuitively natural with them. It's not done overnight. I think this is what Siddons mean when he talks about long term goals...but nooooooooo we fans want a short term quick fix. (I allude to my ten years to become an expert thread.)
In summary, GIVE NAZIM A CHANCE!!!!
p.s. and my god antora, you amused me. normally you write like one liner with w00t w00t or L0L comment but you really let it go when it comes to nazim. Orphy would be impressed. tomake nazim er sathe biye koriye dibo! :P
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April 14, 2010, 03:50 AM
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Zeesham i do agree with you we need to sort out some players like Nazimuddin and need to work with them.One thing i like about him is he has a marvelous reflex and timing.He need to work on his technique specially foot work.I do hope that he will do well in future but onething is a big concern is why his list A average is so poor.
Farhad Hosain,Jahurul and Nazimuddin all have very good FC RECORD but their list A record is very poor,i can not find any good reason behind him.
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April 14, 2010, 04:06 AM
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I agree with Zeeshan, i want him in the T20 squad also he plays well against Pakistan
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April 14, 2010, 04:09 AM
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If Nazimuddin is as talented (?) as Aftab then no Nazimuddin please.
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April 14, 2010, 06:46 PM
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There is a place called Khaja Nazimuddin Road, I wonder if our Nazimuddin ever visited that area!
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Reason: Spelling mistake: Ali Max version 14 Ali Baba Maximum
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April 14, 2010, 06:48 PM
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There is a place called Khaja Nazimuddin Road, I wander if our Nazimuddin ever visited that area!
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