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Old March 21, 2010, 04:57 PM
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Default Shafiul, Rubel whos the 3rd pick NOT SHADAT

Who's the 3rd in line when BD go to England they will need a 3rd seamer they can't possibly play razzak the weakest link in the bowling
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Old March 21, 2010, 05:00 PM
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Mahbubul Alam, becuase of his swinging abilities but then again the selectors will go with 2 pacers and rely heavily on our spinners.
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Old March 21, 2010, 05:03 PM
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Mahbubul Alam, becuase of his swinging abilities but then again the selectors will go with 2 pacers and rely heavily on our spinners.
How can one make a retarded decision like that ITS ENGLAND! Who are they gonna bowl razzak? You know what i hope they do and when they see Razzak getting hammered maybe they will finally learn. Although for now Shakib is in love him for some unknown reason so maybe they won't learn for a few years who knows.
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Old March 21, 2010, 05:04 PM
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It wasn't so long ago that Shahadat had a test strike rate of 49, which put him right up there with the finest bowlers in the world. God knows what's happened to him.

However, assuming whatever it is won't be rectified in the next couple of months, I'd also go with Mahbubul. He really is quite a handy outswing bowler with the new ball and would be capable of giving the Poms something to think about in the early summer English conditions.

Don't know whether he'd be much use once the shine's off the ball though.
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Old March 21, 2010, 05:32 PM
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Mahbubul for swing and seaming conditions.
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Mahbubul Alam. I would also have a look at the development of Sajidul Islam. He was a good prospect.
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Old March 21, 2010, 05:45 PM
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Mahbubul Alam. I would also have a look at the development of Sajidul Islam. He was a good prospect.
How is Alam's pace? Also I remember Sajidul Islam the left armer in New Zealand getting Stephen Fleming out. he seemed to bowl well but i don't remember anything besides that. Seemed to bowl above 130 km/hr. Why was he dropped?

Surely those 2 cannot be worse than Shadat who barely gets it up to 120 km and has no control or variety
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Old March 21, 2010, 05:50 PM
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How is Alam's pace? Also I remember Sajidul Islam the left armer in New Zealand getting Stephen Fleming out. he seemed to bowl well but i don't remember anything besides that. Seemed to bowl above 130 km/hr. Why was he dropped?

Surely those 2 cannot be worse than Shadat who barely gets it up to 120 km and has no control or variety
Mahbubul is a 127-128k bowler. If he had another couple of yards of pace he would very much pass for an international bowler IMO because he gets appreciable movement with the new ball and caused problems to South Africa's opening batsmen. However, once the shine's off the ball he can be a bit pedestrian.

Sajidul is faster than Mahbubul but I didn't particularly rate him when I watched him. Mahbubul has more quality about him.

I think if our system had a strong academy set-up and access to well qualified practioners in conditioning and sports science, Mahbubul might have worked on his core and trunk strength and been a 130-135k bowler by now.
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Old March 21, 2010, 05:52 PM
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Robin and Sajidul are both fairly pacy.

Sajidul has been injured for such a long time, hasnt even played domestic cricket, his re-introduction into cricket should be carefully done.

Robin can also get reverse swing.
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Old March 21, 2010, 05:55 PM
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Robin and Sajidul are both fairly pacy.

Sajidul has been injured for such a long time, hasnt even played domestic cricket, his re-introduction into cricket should be carefully done.
My memory might be playing tricks, but I remember Sajidul being comfortably faster than Robin.

The South African commentators spoke a lot about Robin's potential as a decent international bowler if he could gain a bit more pace.
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Old March 21, 2010, 05:57 PM
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Robin can also get reverse swing.
Does he? I don't remember him getting any but I'll defer to your knowledge.

He bowls with a great wrist position so it's plausible.
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Old March 21, 2010, 05:59 PM
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^^ robin was getting some ridiculous reverse swing in SA 2 years ago.
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There was no speedometer in that test match, last time I saw Robin bowling in a match with a speed meter, he was bowling easily above 130Ks.
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^^ robin was getting some ridiculous reverse swing in SA 2 years ago.
Yeah, now that I think about it, I think I remember that
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Old March 21, 2010, 06:01 PM
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^^ robin was getting some ridiculous reverse swing in SA 2 years ago.
Best use of reverse swing, from a Bangladeshi ever, it made the reverse swing of Rubel's today look like a children's 'join the dots' puzzle.
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Old March 21, 2010, 06:02 PM
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There was no speedometer in that test match, last time I saw Robin bowling in a match with a speed meter, he was bowling easily above 130Ks.
Might have been the pitch, but I definitely remember an occasion when he was consistently just under 130k.

And in that test you mention, the South African commentators definitely had a long conversation about how his slight lack of pace was the only barrier to his being an international standard bowler.
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Old March 21, 2010, 06:04 PM
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http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56032.html

Why's he only played 30 first class matches? He's been on the scene for years now.
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Old March 21, 2010, 06:05 PM
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i would pick talha jubaer. this guy is constantly getting wkt for last couple years. he has aggression, which is positive.

when he was picked for national team--he was inexperienced, much yng and had no clue except pace. now he has everything and he is not under BCB radar.

my 2nd choice would be--- subhashis roy, then robin, sajidul(he has not played for a longer period of time)
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Old March 21, 2010, 06:09 PM
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Mahbubul spell of reverse swing

53.1 Mahbubul Alam to Prince, 1 run, swinging into the left-hander who tucks him to leg. Boucher demands a single, and that's well run

53.2 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, short, wide, slow ... but Boucher can't take advantage and prods it awkwardly off the back foot. He seemed to be beaten by a lack of pace

53.3 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, that's better. Fuller, giving the ball a chance to swing, and it does swing ... bending away a little from Boucher who gets an inside edge

53.4 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, ooh that's close! That's dead, surely? Swinging into Boucher who's rapped on the pads but he got an inside edge. Luckily...

53.5 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, defended on the back foot

53.6 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, Boucher crouches into a really good looking stroke - so good, in fact, that I'd ask it out for a drink and dinner. It arrives at mid-off
South Africa 170/5 Mahbubul Alam 11-2-31-1

55.1 Mahbubul Alam to Prince, no run, swinging into Prince, the left-hander, who is cautious in defence. Lovely delivery, swinging late

55.2 Mahbubul Alam to Prince, 1 run, neatly flicked off his pads; a touch of swing, but the wrong line on his legs

55.3 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, driven out to mid-off

55.4 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, too straight, nudged to short midwicket

55.5 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, oh well bowled. Nice and pacey, on middle-and-off, and Boucher is almost squared up here. Both feet point down the pitch while he defends this awkwardly off the back foot

55.6 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, a huge shout and a very good one! Attempted yorker - much quicker, too - which comes out as a full toss which appeared to be taking out leg-stump. Clearly the umpire thought it was sliding down the leg side

South Africa 176/5 Mahbubul Alam 12-2-32-1

57.1 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, swinging into Boucher who flicks to short midwicket

57.2 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, firmly blocked off the back foot

57.3 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, very well bowled again. Another well-directed yorker, reverse-swinging into Boucher's leg stump, but the right-hander digs it out with his shovel

57.4 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, FOUR, full-toss, Boucher doesn't miss out, bunting it through mid-on

57.5 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, 1 run, again down the leg side, and this time Boucher flicks it behind square. Fine-leg jogs around to field

57.6 Mahbubul Alam to Prince, no run, Prince defends
South Africa 183/5 Mahbubul Alam 13-2-37-1

59.1 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, prodded back to the bowler, played with his hands well away from the body

59.2 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, very well bowled, maintaining a nice line on the off stump, but Boucher is calm and cautious in defending this on the back foot - head right over the ball

59.3 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, 1 run, he strays in line, offering Boucher a gift on his legs

59.4 Mahbubul Alam to Prince, no run, ooh close! A play-and-a-miss from Prince - a really poor stroke, half-heartedly driving to a short and wide delivery. Absolutely no feet movement, and Prince is rightly furious with himself

59.5 Mahbubul Alam to Prince, 1 run, straighter and Prince picks off a single past midwicket

59.6 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, firmly driven to mid-off
South Africa 186/5 Mahbubul Alam 14-2-39-1

61.1 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, FOUR, just pushed down leg by Alam, Boucher, in perfect balance, just clips the ball down to the fine leg fence.

61.2 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, forward defence from Boucher as Alam bowls a good line and length.

61.3 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, no run, defended again just outside off.

61.4 Mahbubul Alam to Boucher, 1 run, flicked away on the on-side

61.5 Mahbubul Alam to Prince, no run, defended to the offside.

61.6 Mahbubul Alam to Prince, 1 run, thickish outside edge runs past point and they get an easy single.
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Old March 21, 2010, 06:09 PM
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How can one make a retarded decision like that ITS ENGLAND! Who are they gonna bowl razzak? You know what i hope they do and when they see Razzak getting hammered maybe they will finally learn. Although for now Shakib is in love him for some unknown reason so maybe they won't learn for a few years who knows.

if u need to play spinner, why not using our 2nd best test spinner--enamul haq jr. he is in form, did pretty well in NCL, though he didnt get much chances because his team is out.

last series---he bowled well.
after razzaq's fail in first test, he should have been out. but our team already decided to replace aftab and shahadat, so razzaq's position has been saved.now we will suffer. enamul jr has excellent record in BD soil
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Old March 21, 2010, 06:13 PM
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Mahbubul spell of reverse swing

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Nice, thanks for digging that out.

We could really use a reverse-swinging seam option instead of bowling 60 overs of spin out of every 80
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in england........

nazmul
robin
shafiul
rubel

thats the order
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i guess robin, sajidul, subashis are ones to think about, would anyone be surprised if alauddin babu got a call-up? they seem to like him.doesn't ziaur rahman swing the ball a fair bit? robiul has been in a couple of squads over the last couple of years, rasel and nazmul might also be in the selectors minds and no doubt they'll be thinking of shahadat (i'd probably be more surprised if they didn't pick him than if they did).
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in ODI--- we should definitely pick----- mashrafe, shafiul, rasel, najmul-------must

test---------------------------------------- shafiul,rubel,mahbubul,sajedul

20/20---------------------------------------shafiul, rasel, najmul

so who is common in all 3 version: shafiul
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in ODI--- we should definitely pick----- mashrafe, shafiul, rasel, najmul-------must

test---------------------------------------- shafiul,rubel,mahbubul,sajedul

20/20---------------------------------------shafiul, rasel, najmul

so who is common in all 3 version: shafiul
yeah i don't think nazmul or rasel should be picked for tests, and in the shorter formats i'd prefer to develop the younger guys like subashis rather than go with rasel or nazmul, mash is good enough (when fit obviously) to be the spearhead and to take the younger guys under his wing in the shorter formats imo.
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