^^^ whatever he has done is undoubtedly heinous act but don't ignore other party's fault too. Barrister Rafiq deliberately interrupted him at the first while MP was talking. MP himself asked him to stop and to talk when its his time but he did not stop.
That video did not show that part. It features only MP's part which i think deliberate too. Both parties are at fault here but being an MP, Mr. Shah Jahan should have been careful in his action. Shameful act but nothing new.
Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
^^^ whatever he has done is undoubtedly heinous act but don't ignore other party's fault too. Barrister Rafiq deliberately interrupted him at the first while MP was talking. MP himself asked him to stop and to talk when its his time but he did not stop.
That video did not show that part. It features only MP's part which i think deliberate too. Both parties are at fault here but being an MP, Mr. Shah Jahan should have been careful in his action. Shameful act but nothing new.
"Chokh tule felbo" under any circumstances is not a civil dialect. You can't lose your temper like that. I saw what Rafiq did and that BNP guy was just being a true BD politician by interrupting that minister, but it never crossed the limit IMHO..
You just can't become a barrister overnight, but in Bangladesh you can become a minister if you have a dirty mouth and that's what we have seen.
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^^ shamne er cheyeo kharap din wait korche...just dekhe jaan desh koi jeye theke. pura desh o desher manush ei shob uneducated, uncivilized creatures dara jimmi. can't see any way out.
Shame on those who stood up against their own country for the sake of own interest !
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বাংলাদেশকে ‘সেফ কান্ট্রি’ ঘোষণা করায় শঙ্কিত ফ্রান্সের ইমিগ্রেন্ট সুবিধা প্রত্যাশী বাঙালিরা। বিশ্বে দেশের ভাবমূর্তি উজ্জ্বল হলেও নিজেদের ভবিষ্যৎ নিয়ে হতাশ ভুক্তভোগীরা। ইমিগ্রেন্ট হওয়ার স্বপ্ন নিয়ে লাখ লাখ টাকা খরচ ও জীবনের ঝুঁকি নিয়ে এতটা পথ পাড়ি দিয়ে স্বপ্নের দেশ ফ্রান্সে এলেও এখন মনোবল ভেঙে গেছে অনেকের।
‘সেফ কান্ট্রি’ ঘোষণার প্রতিবাদে হাজার হাজার বাঙালি কিছু দিন আগে শোডাউন করেছিলেন প্যারিস শহরের গুরুত্বপূর্ণ কয়েকটি সড়কে।
তিনি বলেন, ‘সেফ কান্ট্রি হওয়ায় এখানে নতুন করে আশ্রয়ের সুযোগ না মেলার আশঙ্কায় ইমিগ্রেন্ট প্রত্যাশী প্রায় তিন হাজার মানুষ প্যারিসের রাস্তায় নেমে এসেছিলেন। তারা অ্যামেনেস্টি ইন্টারন্যাশনালের রিপোর্ট উপস্থাপন করে ফ্রান্স সরকারকে বোঝাতে চেয়েছেন যে বাংলাদেশ এখনো বসবাসের জন্য নিরাপদ নয়।’
ফ্রান্সের চট্টগ্রাম সমিতির সভাপতি শাহনেওয়াজ রশিদ রানা, সাধারণ সম্পাদক মিঠু বড়ুয়া ও প্রবাসী বাঙালি দেবেশ বড়ুয়া এ শোডাউনের কথা স্বীকার করেন। তারা জানান, বাংলাদেশকে সেফ কান্ট্রি ঘোষণার বিষয়টি ইমিগ্রেন্ট প্রত্যাশীদের জন্য গলার কাঁটা হয়ে দাঁড়িয়েছে।
Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
Shame on those who stood up against their own country for the sake of own interest !
See bellow and say if its a safe country....
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Originally Posted by simon
was watching ATN bangla news, while showing a goru'r haat a random goru wala said " eto koshto koira manush korlam.....goru banailam"
at the same time if BD becomes safe according to French gvtmnt there won't be anymore political asylum,which means thousands of people will get screwed BIG TIME.
I'm in two minds.
tacharao jeshob ghotona ghotchey BD ey ,BD ki asholei safe?
borolok desh thekey arthik shahajjo pawar jonno desh er shorkar o naki desh er negative dik gulo tule dhorey.
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Fcuk political asylum seekers from Bangladesh - there hasn't been 500 genuine asylum seekers from this country since independence. They're all low life scum, like the retards that bred them....
Is Bangladesh safe...of course it is. Sick of this ****ing bullshit. All this pontification....oh no, someone was murdered in Bangladesh - how many ****ing murders in the US on a daily basis? Did some poor Bangladeshi student not get shot up in a drive by in Connecticut recently?
So, what the US isn't safe?
For what's it worth, I hope these low life scammers in France get thrown out...making up lies, ohh ami BNP kori AL govt will kill me. Not forgetting the AL leechers saying the same **** from 2001-2006.
I hope if they get deported, they all get lined up and shot as they get off the plane in Dhaka.
@Simon - you're in two minds about scammers...yet we have people bitching about corruption and a lack of ethics in Bangladesh. I have no sympathy for economic refugees trying to abuse the system.
Like I said, I hope all the political asylum seekers get sent back to Bangladesh...string them up, feed their carcasses to the stray dogs that roam about Dhaka.
Speaking of asylum, I know this girl in Canada who got a PR by pleading her family tortures her in Dhaka. Such BS! parents spent a lot of money to send her there after A levels and after few months she married a loser bengali guy and then dropped out. Parents asked her to come home but she refused. So she presented her parents as abusive and got legal permission to stay.
F6_Turbo... You are directing your anger towards the wrong direction.
Bangladesh is a country with 45% unemployment and its increasing by 3-5% every year. And 40% of the rest are employed in the agriculture sector. The salary structure of the other sector is almost in line with poverty for 75% of employed people. The people going abroad and looking for employment for their survival and in the process adding to the foreign remittance. Which is still the largest source of FC income for the country. I don't mind if they lie for getting asylum, If you think they are lying. But the jobless picture, salary structure, security situation, political influence, corruption etc definitely doesn't make a place SAFE for living. Safety isn't only threatened if a gun is pointed at you, millions of people would die starving in this country if they were not desperately looking for opportunities abroad. So, BD is unsafe for many millions of Bangladeshis ...
And these guys are not the scumbags... The politicians are the scum bags. The government provided about 30,000 - 40,000 crore taka vortuki in different sectors every year .. Not even one percent of it is in any productive sector. Vortuki is the place of corruption/stealing money for these scumbags. And they lower us more by begging for 10-15 crores in case of natural calamity, they beg for anything and everything to the foreign governments by lowering us... They are lowering us more than these asylum seekers. They lower us by rubbing their nose for loans from WB, ADB..etc donors... They don't do it for us, they do it for their benefit in the name of us...
We are being made beggars by our politicians... So political asylum seekers are perfectly genuine to me. I see a lot of love from you for these scumbag politicians and the people who fight for their survival are your target.... Very unfortunate.
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BANFAN and F6_Turbo have posited two opposing views, allow me to chip in with some of my own:
Re: the Government being the cause of all our ills.
Creating an 'us' and 'them' (i.e. the Government) dichotomy is overly simplistic. If we are to seek the root causes of poverty in Bangladesh we'll find that the State in its manifest forms are not the only (and I'll argue not the main) players. What we see in the news is some Government minister whisking away a few crores in his Pajero or another State Minister pocketing significant funds intended for the use of infrastructure projects. So on and so forth. Is that the cause of Bangladesh's slow development and continuing poverty? Somewhat.
What about the role of unscrupulous, profit-hungry, unrestrained companies? They feature too. Some businessmen have been responsible for siphoning several crores and destabilising the economy - not to mention treating their employees like crap. To be fair, many of these same businessmen are also known faces in politics.
So, what do people do? They turn to 'NGOs', 'charities' and civil society organisations, with the belief that they offer a welcome relief to the corrupt Government-corporate nexus and a way of 'sending poverty to the museums'. Increasingly, this illusion is crumbling too. Stories of Jahanara Begum's tin roof being stripped because she failed to pay her khisti in time or Latifa Banu's beating at the hands of her husband because she failed to hand over her loan to him might elude headlines as it isn't as news worthy as a ponzi scheme or a lurid governmental imbroglio but it is also an endemic reality; a reality that is obscured due to media firestorms and foreign, donor-fueled propaganda. We must ask ourselves this - we have weak State structures and NGOs and similar organisations provide stop-gap, replacement services. As valuable as they have been in some cases, who are they accountable to? They must be substantively accountable to someone, as no organisation is infallible. Also, is their media adulation healthy? To what extent does their presence hinder the strengthening of requisite State institutions?
There are myriad causes of our country's poverty - financial, social, political, etc - and it is misguided to lay the blame on any one group. There are many nexuses involved. A Government-corporate one, a Government-donor one, an NGO-donor one, an NGO-corporate one and a Janus-faced media one: all of which amount to a small group of closely linked people screwing over the general population AND are responsible for our persistent negative image abroad.
Re: asylum seekers. I feel that Western nations can adequately insulate themselves from economic migrants. European and American countries have rigorous asylum processes and while you have the occasional story like the one Mufi shared, the genuine cases are often picked out from the dubious ones. (If they weren't you wouldn't hear those stories of Bangladeshis drowning in the Mediterranean trying to get to Greece/Italy or dying in the Sahara in their attempt to get to Spain/Portugal via Morocco) At the same time, I hate to hear 'azul' (sic) Bangladeshis abroad getting on their high horse about corruption and illegalities in the motherland when they subverted an entire immigration and citizenship system and lied copiously themselves!
Originally Posted by BANFAN
F6_Turbo... You are directing your anger towards the wrong direction.
Bangladesh is a country with 45% unemployment and its increasing by 3-5% every year. And 40% of the rest are employed in the agriculture sector. The salary structure of the other sector is almost in line with poverty for 75% of employed people. The people going abroad and looking for employment for their survival and in the process adding to the foreign remittance. Which is still the largest source of FC income for the country. I don't mind if they lie for getting asylum, If you think they are lying. But the jobless picture, salary structure, security situation, political influence, corruption etc definitely doesn't make a place SAFE for living. Safety isn't only threatened if a gun is pointed at you, millions of people would die starving in this country if they were not desperately looking for opportunities abroad. So, BD is unsafe for many millions of Bangladeshis ...
Unemployment rate, salary structure, poverty, political influence, corruption has nothing to do with calling a country 'unsafe' to live and that too for only thousands of people whereas millions of people are living at the same time. Those who are capable of earning, can earn either in BD or in abroad. Obviously, foreign countries offer lots of opportunities and better life but that no way indicate that you can't live in Bangladesh.
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And these guys are not the scumbags... The politicians are the scum bags. The government provided about 30,000 - 40,000 crore taka vortuki in different sectors every year .. Not even one percent of it is in any productive sector. Vortuki is the place of corruption/stealing money for these scumbags. And they lower us more by begging for 10-15 crores in case of natural calamity, they beg for anything and everything to the foreign governments by lowering us... They are lowering us more than these asylum seekers. They lower us by rubbing their nose for loans from WB, ADB..etc donors... They don't do it for us, they do it for their benefit in the name of us...
I don't think a poor country like us pleading for foreign help is similar to those people's situation. Foreign help comes with very strict conditions. If govt has to convince them to ease off few conditions by portraying us poor then it's nothing wrong at least according to me.
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Originally Posted by BANFAN
We are being made beggars by our politicians... So political asylum seekers are perfectly genuine to me. I see a lot of love from you for these scumbag politicians and the people who fight for their survival are your target.... Very unfortunate.
Fortunately now-a-days foreign countries know much better than us. They already figured it out how we manipulate data and facts to enter their country and live there. Living in Australia, i have seen how boat people from Burma, Indo, Afganistan (who are more genuine than those of us) have been rejected to get entry to Australia despite life threatening risk (though its a huge debate in Australia whether they should be allowed or not).
Regarding asylum scumbags, i have seen them too in Australia. I know few people who claimed themselves as 'Gay' only to get access to Australia. Recently, i heard one guy who was a Shibir activist in BD, claimed 'PR' showing he's a christian and his life was at risk in BD. Now what would you tell ?
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