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Old April 28, 2010, 07:44 PM
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Default why naeem , musfiq , imrul

i dont understand what the hell bcb thinking by not picking alok kopali for 2020 team . this 3 guys are lots worst player than alok kopali .this guy naeem he seems to be doesnt know how to play cricket sometimes. naeem has to remember this is 2020 , only 120 ball to play . even sometimes naeem knows that he has to hit but he dont even try sometimes . because he dont wanna get out . this is selfish cricket . i think alok kopali deserve a chance intead of this three player . and musfiq and kayes even tho they playing 2020 they think they playing 50 over game in west indies .
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Old April 28, 2010, 07:52 PM
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and all these analysis is based on what.....some numerical updates every 10 mins?
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Old April 28, 2010, 08:08 PM
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Yes Yes Yes, I agree with you, my friend. These three guys should be dropped forever and ever and ever.

Period.
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Old April 28, 2010, 08:09 PM
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and all these analysis is based on what.....some numerical updates every 10 mins?
y what y talking about . that what is true .selector are messed up the whole 2020 team . this is a different version of game . this is a frustration every time seeing this player are disappointing performance. selector have the big problem with selecting a player .
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:54 PM
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yeah... and next time someone will say... Naeem for captain because he played brilliantly in some upcoming game.... or Imrul or Mushfiq. I think they are fine... I doubted Imrul but he is showing some character. As for Alok, I think he is pretty good in 20/20. He should have been picked in place of Aftab.
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Old April 28, 2010, 11:08 PM
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alok-- i would have picked him for 20/20 any given day over any body, he is our best t20 player.

Imrul kayes-- he proved he is a good performer in T20. two times domestic T20 highest run maker plus warm up matches performance. i dont know why u want to keep him out.

Mushfiq-- have serious doubt abt his batting in this form. to stabilize middle order, we have riad, who can rotate strike as well. mushfiq's keeping---its better not to talk abt it.

naeem-- he can be handy in ODI and test due to his all round ability but he takes time to set himself and adjust. which might be negative for the team

ash, aftab-- both showing form. i would not drop them because they are perfect for this format. i hope shakib use ash as a bowler atleast few overs.

alok---- Its a crime, not to select Alok in T20

Dollar mahmud--- i think he could have been in 20/20 team , just for his batting. i think his batting could have been useful.

shafiul---- this guy can bat, though he doesnt get opportunity to bat that often. i think he could be handy in 20/20.

rasel/rubel/shafiul----- dont know which one to pick. rasel, rubel were expensive today. Rubel in last NCL matches bold 4 batsman and bowled really well, so i was thinking he is back in full rhythm. Hope rasel is economic again.

no complain at this moment: mashrafe, tamim, riad, kayes,ashraful, aftab, razzaq (he really bowled well today)
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Old April 28, 2010, 11:13 PM
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My wish team

Tamim
Siddique/Jahurul Islam +
Ashful
Alok
Aftab/Jahurul Islam +
Shakib
Naeem
Shafiul
Mashrafee
Razzak
Rubel/Rasel


bats down to 9.
3 Fast, 2 spinners, 3 part time spinners, 1 part time medium = 9 bowling options

thats like have 9+9= 18 players in disguise of 11
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Old April 28, 2010, 11:35 PM
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i dont understand what the hell bcb thinking by not picking alok kopali for 2020 team . this 3 guys are lots worst player than alok kopali .this guy naeem he seems to be doesnt know how to play cricket sometimes. naeem has to remember this is 2020 , only 120 ball to play . even sometimes naeem knows that he has to hit but he dont even try sometimes . because he dont wanna get out . this is selfish cricket . i think alok kopali deserve a chance intead of this three player . and musfiq and kayes even tho they playing 2020 they think they playing 50 over game in west indies .
I agree. There are players in this team just like Raqibul, who are selfish hence afraid to take any risk to up the scoring rate. Players like Rony Talukdar, Milon, Zia are proven big hitters, not that they are only big hitters they are clean strikers of the cricket ball in front of the wicket. This they have proven in the league and did it consistently in last few years.
The selectors seems to be in a set mindset and are not able to be more innovative and practical in selecting the 20/20 side. What harm would it be to play one of them and give them a green signal to play aggresively or even the way they always do?
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Old April 28, 2010, 11:49 PM
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Alok is the most over-rated, faltu player I have ever seen in all format. He has no commitment. Look at the recent bhuri he created. He got most free rides after another bhuwa player Ashraful.

He needs to retire and do Bd cricket a big favor.
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Old April 29, 2010, 12:05 AM
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let me tell you all what I wish I could do. I wish I could go back in time so that we could select Alok for the team, and then fast forward to this day, and I bet you all the same person would be asking why did we select Alok in the first place?? he's good for nothing.

man even 2 weeks ago Nayeem was on everyone's favorite list, and couple bad matches in a row and now he's on the $hit list.
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Old April 29, 2010, 12:22 AM
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People who are shouting about the exclusion of Alok should recall his performance prior to the selection of the T20 WC. He did near rubbish in NCL, disappointing in DPL. He made no case of his inclusion what so ever, only because some of us think he is the best T20 player[that too depending on some performances against a 40 year old chris harris and Co.] he does not deserve a place in the team. He did well in the NCL t20 but that was after the team was declared. So Alok did not help his cause at all.
When Riyad/Nayeem came in, I thought they were just stop gap solutions, but with several match winning/face saving innings they have proven they are here to stay. These two are equivalent to three players[1 batsman, and half a bowler]. I guess some of the blokes here will never be satisfied with what Nayeem has done, and will in no way think what he is capable of.
And Mushfique is our best keeper, dont give me any BS about Mithun/Dhiman, I saw those guys in NCL t20 and they looked worse than stop gap keepers in the IPL. Mushfique is no Pilot, but he is the best we have. And until we have a decent keeper coming through the grades, I don't see his position in doubt.
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Old April 29, 2010, 12:26 AM
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let me tell you all what I wish I could do. I wish I could go back in time so that we could select Alok for the team, and then fast forward to this day, and I bet you all the same person would be asking why did we select Alok in the first place?? he's good for nothing.

man even 2 weeks ago Nayeem was on everyone's favorite list, and couple bad matches in a row and now he's on the $hit list.
Bro he is not in my bad list . He is good for odi and test. But he take time to settele his self . That what is really bad for 2020 format.

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Old April 29, 2010, 12:46 AM
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I think the only solution to our T20 problem is to have specialist for different formats. Nayeem, Riyad, Mushy, Shakib are core of our batting line up, we should let them focus on only test and ODI, bring in some fresh new blood and prepare them for T20. Our players are not capable of adjusting from one format to another so quickly, its best if we keep them separately. for the moment ODI and Test should be our main concern but that doesn't mean we should forget about T20.
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Old April 29, 2010, 01:24 AM
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Hmmm. Bhalo, Besh Bhalo!!!!!!!!!!
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Old April 29, 2010, 02:14 AM
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I think main problem is our selectors, they use their orthodox methods before thinking logically twice, and then come up with the same bunch of guys who are playing around for a while for national team. It happened also back that time when Alok was in national team, despite his failure he was selected repeatably, then same went with Ashraful, Aftab and many more.. These selectors never proved that they are most wise. logical and prudent in their selections process..or too dumb of understanding the logic and reasoning of cricket. Look at the T20 squad, they left some of the good T20 potentials out of the squad as to maintain their orthodox selection procedure. Now Alok is the finest batsman for T20 version but he is not given chance, but people like failures in recent T20 leagues at domestics are included, should i have to mention their name too. And here some Alok haters are throwing their freezing cold water to those people's neck who are just justifying Alok's inclusion. Please guys just come out from those biased shell and support whoever deserves the due chanece competent with their recent performance.
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Old April 29, 2010, 02:27 AM
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Alok should not be selected because he is an ex-ICLer.

Mushfiq must be selected because he is cute.

Aftab, though an ex-ICLer, must be selected because he has hidden talent. He plays uradhura cricket and that is considered good for T20.
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Old April 29, 2010, 02:46 AM
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I think main problem is our selectors, they use their orthodox methods before thinking logically twice, and then come up with the same bunch of guys who are playing around for a while for national team. It happened also back that time when Alok was in national team, despite his failure he was selected repeatably, then same went with Ashraful, Aftab and many more.. These selectors never proved that they are most wise. logical and prudent in their selections process..or too dumb of understanding the logic and reasoning of cricket. Look at the T20 squad, they left some of the good T20 potentials out of the squad as to maintain their orthodox selection procedure. Now Alok is the finest batsman for T20 version but he is not given chance, but people like failures in recent T20 leagues at domestics are included, should i have to mention their name too. And here some Alok haters are throwing their freezing cold water to those people's neck who are just justifying Alok's inclusion. Please guys just come out from those biased shell and support whoever deserves the due chanece competent with their recent performance.
I am totally agree with you man. And that is the main concern for the future. If they do it again by picking up wrong player

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Old April 29, 2010, 03:35 AM
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People who are shouting about the exclusion of Alok should recall his performance prior to the selection of the T20 WC. He did near rubbish in NCL, disappointing in DPL. He made no case of his inclusion what so ever, only because some of us think he is the best T20 player[that too depending on some performances against a 40 year old chris harris and Co.] he does not deserve a place in the team. He did well in the NCL t20 but that was after the team was declared. So Alok did not help his cause at all.
When Riyad/Nayeem came in, I thought they were just stop gap solutions, but with several match winning/face saving innings they have proven they are here to stay. These two are equivalent to three players[1 batsman, and half a bowler]. I guess some of the blokes here will never be satisfied with what Nayeem has done, and will in no way think what he is capable of.
And Mushfique is our best keeper, dont give me any BS about Mithun/Dhiman, I saw those guys in NCL t20 and they looked worse than stop gap keepers in the IPL. Mushfique is no Pilot, but he is the best we have. And until we have a decent keeper coming through the grades, I don't see his position in doubt.

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Old April 29, 2010, 05:15 AM
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Let me tell you the truth, I agree that Mushy and Kayes are good but not Baikka Naeem.

Remember what John F kennedy told in his famous speech "Don't think about what your country has done for you, think about what you have done for your country".... This means that is very important to do something for your country.

Naeem is one of the worst chocker I have seen in the cricketing history. He is playing fpr two years and scored only one fifty in test and odi. He takes so long to just adjust to the crease and waits for the last few overs and by the meantime, the game is finished for BD. That one innings against Zimbabwe doesnt make him a hero, anyway it didnt matter much to us did it? We had already won the series.

The truth is that who serve for their country, the are the main people. Look at people like Sheikh Mujibur, Zia, Mahatma Gandhi. In cricket who are more famous, Sachin, Rahul, Azhar, and why not Kapil Dev. Thanks to players like Akram Khan, Rafique, Mahmud and others, we are playing cricket on a regular basis.

Thanks to player like Ash(His heroism) and HB's Captaincy, we are starting to reach a respectable position, that's why they are so famous in our heart. What is Naeem, a good for nothing cricketer who plays selfishly taking years to settle and comeon, he is not a big hitter, he can bowl as good as Mash , Shakib, Rafique, he is not a WK, he cannot play long innings, he cannot score 3 centuries against a single team in one row like SN, can he?

Naeem has done nothing for the country but his country is doing everything for him. He is getting large amount of fame by us and also huge amount of money, he is even representing us in the national level(For which we are under-represented), BUT HAS DONE NOTHING FOR OUR CRICKET.

IMO Naeem should be kicked out, and replaced by Dickens who is ten times better Naeem
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Old April 29, 2010, 05:27 AM
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AK420, that one was a bit harsh to Nayeem.

I agree to the fact that no way Nayeem is a big hitter. I do not know which idiot named him as "Chokka Nayeem". He also has a good head on his shoulder but till now that has only benefited him, not the team.

I would like him to be used properly in the middle order with a promotion in batting order. He is getting away with the fact that, "He has not got enough chances". I believe by using him properly we can get something out of him in the middle-order. He has something to offer for the team.
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Old April 29, 2010, 05:41 AM
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Yaseer bhai, directly or indirectly, I think you might have called other members of BD team as IDIOTS, since they have started calling him a big hitter.

Anyway, Naeem will never benefit from anything, had he played aggressively in 2ND ODI against ENGLAND we could have scored more than 270 and could have won, even after what the umpires did
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Old April 29, 2010, 07:18 AM
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Naeem's main problem is, he is actually a batsman; but the team considers him as a bowling-allrounder. So, he does not get enough chance of batting. If he is in the team, he should bat within the top 5.
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Old April 29, 2010, 09:43 AM
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yeah naeem is a batsman who can bowl not a bowling allrounder. but people do have a valid point, sometimes he has a great temperament for the situation and other times it's just all wrong, however he can hit a big ball so although i maybe wouldn't describe him as a hard hitting batsmen he does have the capability of hitting quality bowlers for big boundaries.
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Old April 29, 2010, 09:51 AM
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yeah naeem is a batsman who can bowl not a bowling allrounder. but people do have a valid point, sometimes he has a great temperament for the situation and other times it's just all wrong, however he can hit a big ball so although i maybe wouldn't describe him as a hard hitting batsmen he does have the capability of hitting quality bowlers for big boundaries.
He can hit sixes against pace only, not spin.
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