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Old May 25, 2010, 09:35 AM
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Default Tamim to battle injury for Lord's experience

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Tamim Iqbal is expecting to take his place at the top of the Bangladesh batting order when the first Test at Lord's gets underway on Thursday, despite struggling during the tour of England with an injury to his left wrist that may yet require surgery at some stage this year.


Tamim first sustained the injury while fielding during Bangladesh's domestic Twenty20 competition in 2009, but the problem flared up again ahead of the recent World Twenty20 in the Caribbean, in which he played only a minor role during their 21-run defeat against Pakistan in St Lucia and missed the defeat to Australia in Barbados.


Upon arrival in England, Tamim sat out Bangladesh's first two fixtures against Surrey and Essex, but showed glimpses of form with scores of 36 and 19 in the team's nine-wicket defeat against England Lions at Derby last week, and the lure of a Lord's Test is likely to persuade him to push through the pain barrier.


"I've pushed myself five percent more than maybe I would have done on other grounds," Tamim told Cricinfo. "I'm really excited to play at Lord's in a Test match. It will be a dream come true and I really want to play, because I don't know when I'll get another chance."


Tamim conceded that the prospect of surgery had not been entirely ruled out, but given Bangladesh's hectic schedule, which includes the Asia Cup straight after the Test series, followed by the one-day leg of the England tour in July, finding a three-month window that will allow him sufficient time to recuperate ahead of the World Cup next February is a tricky balancing act.


"I went to a specialist yesterday, and he said you've got two choices," Tamim said. "Either you play with taping and hope there won't be any harm, or you can have surgery that will take three months. We have a very busy schedule so the team management told me to decide, so I am seeing another doctor today [Tuesday], and if he gives me the green signal, then I'll play the first match, and think about surgery when I am free.


Tamim was the stand-out performer for Bangladesh during England's tour of the country in March, in which he scored a brilliant century in the first ODI in Dhaka, followed by three free-flowing half-centuries in four innings during the Tests. Whether fully fit or otherwise, his presence at the top of the order will provide his side with vital experience in alien bowler-friendly conditions.


"Test cricket is most important, so I don't want to take any chances, but I'm batting okay in the nets and the pain is getting better day by day," he said. "This is my third tour to England, and last time I played okay. I scored some runs against South Africa and the county teams, so there won't be any problem adjusting to the wickets. I am an international cricket player, so I need to adjust to every ground and every wicket."


Bangladesh's preparations for the first Test have been blighted by illness as well as injury, with their captain, Shakib Al Hasan, being forced into quarantine after contracting chicken pox early in the tour. He took a full part in training on Monday and is sure to lead his team out on Thursday morning, but the disruption is not what Bangladesh needed ahead of such a tough assignment.


"I think he's fully recovered now, he's running around, batting and bowling, and he'll be there in the first Test to captain our side," said Tamim. "We were not allowed to go anywhere near him [last week], he was staying alone, and only the guys who'd had chicken pox before were allowed to go and see him. I asked my mother if I'd ever had chicken pox and she said I hadn't, but then I did a test and it said that I had had, which was funny."


Assuming Bangladesh can overcome their setbacks to field a full-strength side, Tamim hopes that they can build on the encouraging displays that they showed against England earlier in the year. "We know that we are an improving side, we are doing okay in international games, but we are just not winning games," he said. "We've got to prove to the world that we can play in any conditions."
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Old May 25, 2010, 09:44 AM
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Assuming Bangladesh can overcome their setbacks to field a full-strength side, Tamim hopes that they can build on the encouraging displays that they showed against England earlier in the year. "We know that we are an improving side, we are doing okay in international games, but we are just not winning games," he said. "We've got to prove to the world that we can play in any conditions."
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Old May 25, 2010, 09:45 AM
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Good news, at least we dont need to play Imrul, but what about SR Shuvo?
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Old May 25, 2010, 09:47 AM
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"We know that we are an improving side, we are doing okay in international games, but we are just not winning games,"

Where does this delusion of doing okay originate from?

So far this year:

- 23 innings (Test, ODI, T20) and we have bowled out a team only twice and both of those are 1st innings in a test
- Not yet scored at 6+ or 7.5+ in an ODI or T20I
- Only the 2nd ODI vs. ENG counts as a match that we could've won towards the end and even that seemed lost earlier if had not been for a late bowling spark from Shakib
- We have had embarassment saving partnerships and innings but not a single 'put us in an advantage partnership' or innings yet. (maybe the first ODI against IND of 290+)
- We haven't had any back to back solid games

This is part of the problem of why we stay stuck in this not as good as the G8 and typically better than the rest stage.

Instead of sugarcoating the losses, we should be fueling a fire of not living up to expectations and coming down hard on ourselves to get that first win.

If the coach and the star player both put out messages of 'its an honor to be just invited' then there really is little hope for the future.
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Old May 25, 2010, 09:48 AM
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It will take 3 months to recover if he gets surgery..Holy cow!! man even he gets it after this england series he will be miss for a lot of games..........but i hope he stay 100% fit for WC....Allah malik!
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Old May 25, 2010, 09:48 AM
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I do not understand this Tamim injury fiasco. He played T20 WC match as he was declared fit. Then again problem, missed all the matches till the last practice match. Now again worry about injury for the 1st test. Then why he played those matches in between? Is our physio playing a trial and error game with him?

Anyway, from the looks of it, we are going to have an unfit Tamim playing at Lords. He is playing only because it is Lords. Well, 50% of Tamim is better than our other opening batsmen, but it also takes away the chances of him scoring some runs. 30 minutes in the crease, then the pain comes back again and gone!

Sakib is also not fully fit. We are going to the test with two of our most important players unfit. We are carrying the danger of being a 9 man team in the middle of the test match. Anyway the test is going to last for two and a half days and hopefully Sakib's fitness is good enough for that!

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Not good for Tamim - He could be out of the game for years, possibly life, if he get injured on the same place.

Not good for the team - he will not be able to give 100% performance to the team. I reckon thats waste of one place!

Very bad idea. I am scared more for him. I would rather want him to take 3 months off and be ready and fit for the Asia cup or Eng ODI and definitely for the world cup next year.
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Tamim had pox earliar but his mother doesnt know about it. How?

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Old May 25, 2010, 09:55 AM
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Not good for Tamim - He could be out of the game for years, possibly life, if he get injured on the same place.

Not good for the team - he will not be able to give 100% performance to the team. I reckon thats waste of one place!

Very bad idea. I am scared more for him. I would rather want him to take 3 months off and be ready and fit for the Asia cup or Eng ODI and definitely for the world cup next year.
Agree, bad idea and an emotional decision from Tamim (Assuming if it is not Lords, he would not have played with his current injury).
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Old May 25, 2010, 10:05 AM
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Tamim had pox earliar but his mother doesnt know about it. How?

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Probably because no on noticed. ALSO WHEN YOU ARE YOUNG, THE EFFECT OF CHICKEN POX IS LESS. Also noticing Chicken Pox at young age is difficult, and normally experts can identify it fully.

About 10 years ago, when I was at class 2 or 3, I had Chicken Pox but the signs of Pox was not much noticable. Also you do not feel bad at getting pox at early age. My mom and dad are good doctors, they identified
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Old May 25, 2010, 10:18 AM
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Agree, bad idea and an emotional decision from Tamim (Assuming if it is not Lords, he would not have played with his current injury).
Yeah, we aint gonna play any match there till 2020.

Shob dosh amader selectorder, keu ki bolte pare tara keno Shahadat(As bowler), Baikka Naeem ar Bhimrulke select kore?
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I went to tamim himself and asked, 'aath balla ni?' he replied 'tikase'

Even Siddons and team manager, said he is perfectly fine and will play definitely in Lords. And everyone is fully fit.

Shakib looked perfectly healthy to me, he was walking about the most and relaxing outside.
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I went to tamim himself and asked, 'aath balla ni?' he replied 'tikase'

Even Siddons and team manager, said he is perfectly fine and will play definitely in Lords. And everyone is fully fit.

Shakib looked perfectly healthy to me, he was walking about the most and relaxing outside.
Maybe he didn't understand what you asked him. Lol just kidding.
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Its worth it.
World cup is still 9 months away.
Playing at Lords is any cricketers dream.
Only God knows if they'll ever have a chance playing there again.
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It all depends on how much tolerance he has for pain. If he is willing to gut it out, then I can say nothing but to appreciate his dedication for the team and the country. That goes a long way with me. I don't think he hurts the team in any way. Let be frank about one thing : 50% Tamim is better than a 100% Kayes. There is always a chance that he would make it worse by not opting for surgery now. But, hopefully he won't aggravate it. Best of luck to him.
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Not good for Tamim - He could be out of the game for years, possibly life, if he get injured on the same place.

Not good for the team - he will not be able to give 100% performance to the team. I reckon thats waste of one place!

Very bad idea. I am scared more for him. I would rather want him to take 3 months off and be ready and fit for the Asia cup or Eng ODI and definitely for the world cup next year.
it all depends on the risk. afterall every single decision in life is marred with some greater than zero risk. there is a chance a man (or a woman) spouse to be may be infected with HIV or some other debilitating disease. doesn't stop anyone from getting married.

if there is no risk of serious injury, and just minor pain or discomfort, tamim should be lauded for putting himself, and his country above that. professional athletes sometimes play through things we normal people would just take time off from work/school for. Jordan's famous 1998 NBA Finals "fever game" is a notable thing.

from my admitted limited knowledge, with a hand injury, there is the potential for damage to nerves, cartilege, joints, and/or soft tissue. nerve and cartildege damage should be avoided at any and all costs. same for joints which are primarily cartilege, but soft tissue injury could yield fibrosis which is permenent (unless surgically removed i guess) and could impair normal range of motion in the hand and joints.

thus, if there is little risk of the above, then he should play if he wants to. otherwise, he shouldnt. i am sure his doctors will tell him about this.
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I went to tamim himself and asked, 'aath balla ni?' he replied 'tikase'

Even Siddons and team manager, said he is perfectly fine and will play definitely in Lords. And everyone is fully fit.

Shakib looked perfectly healthy to me, he was walking about the most and relaxing outside.
speaking sylhetti to a chatgai???
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Agree, bad idea and an emotional decision from Tamim (Assuming if it is not Lords, he would not have played with his current injury).
i think the same. for him every game should have same importance. and we needs his services for as long as possible. we cant risk losing him for long time because the nation need his service
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I think this is simply idiotic, the way team management is aggravating Tamim's injury since the T20 WC. 99% chances are that Bangladesh team will lose both Tests anyway. I would have given him this time to get fit for the Asia Cup and following ODIs.
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hard to say Yes/NO.
I still voted Yes, 1st of all we need him a lot & 2ndly it's his dream, 3rd according to the doctor it's not highly risky.
So,let's hope for the best despite a risk factor.
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Why the team management is leaving it upto him?

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I went to tamim himself and asked, 'aath balla ni?' he replied 'tikase'

Even Siddons and team manager, said he is perfectly fine and will play definitely in Lords. And everyone is fully fit.

Shakib looked perfectly healthy to me, he was walking about the most and relaxing outside.
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Maybe he didn't understand what you asked him. Lol just kidding.
LOOOL. you shoud've just spoke to him in english.....thats what i did!!! spoke to him for about 45 seconds about his injury....
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Yeh we did talk in English, but I dont think he understood what a joke is in English context.

I told him not be scared of the new ball

He was like 'BROTHER ... (nonchalantly sways head) I am not scared of anything'

Well cockiness is a good thing in my books.
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LOOOL. you shoud've just spoke to him in english.....thats what i did!!! spoke to him for about 45 seconds about his injury....
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