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Old May 31, 2010, 06:54 AM
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Default Riyad and Ashraful need to switch places in the batting order

In the next test, Ashrful does not deserve to play 3 down, simple as that.
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Old May 31, 2010, 07:00 AM
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Mushy, Sakib and Riyad has not done anything special either in this test match.
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Old May 31, 2010, 07:06 AM
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i dont think there will be any change in next game batting order wise.

though i want riadh up at 5.

he was promoted from 8 to 5 agaisnt england at home but now with ashraful back he demoted back to 8.
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Old May 31, 2010, 07:12 AM
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just what I said in the match thread.
We can expect more from Ryad if he is bttng with some batsman,and Ash should bat down with the tail
.Anything from Ash will be a bonus.
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Old May 31, 2010, 07:42 AM
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Ash can play his agressive cricket at 8 and let a proper confident batsmen play at 5 i am all for it but JS wants to develop ash in to something that he will never be, a batsmen that can attack and defend.
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Old May 31, 2010, 07:45 AM
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I think Ash needs to be droppped full stop ! I think we nurture some one else !
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Old May 31, 2010, 08:26 AM
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In the next test, Ashrful does not deserve to play 3 down, simple as that.
Shamsur and Ash needs to switch places. It is that simple. Actually anyone from the A team or academy team can be a better replacement.
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Old May 31, 2010, 08:32 AM
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Mushy, Sakib and Riyad has not done anything special either in this test match.
Ya and I suppose Ash has done something special to keep batting at number 5. What about the previous test
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Old May 31, 2010, 08:48 AM
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Ya and I suppose Ash has done something special to keep batting at number 5. What about the previous test
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Well, those stats where not good, but Ash's T20 PERFORMANCE is better every other batsmen
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Old May 31, 2010, 08:54 AM
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Well, those stats where not good, but Ash's T20 PERFORMANCE is better every other batsmen
bhaijan apni jitsen ami harse 100 out of 100 for u n 1000 out of 100 for me.

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Old May 31, 2010, 09:06 AM
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Shamsur and Ash needs to switch places. It is that simple. Actually anyone from the A team or academy team can be a better replacement.
We know our board is pathetic and wont do that. Even if they do and SRS does not do too well they will drop him and wont give him another chance for a long time. I say play ash for the last test match that way he cant complain he was dropped when others failed as well and then drop him from the test team for all the future series.

No matter how useless ash's performances are our selectors and board does not care about performances, they just care about their fat wallets.
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Old May 31, 2010, 09:11 AM
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I agree...Riyad's desire and ability to last and score is more thn the 3 idiots in Ash, Sakib and Mushfiq (quite the characters too). All three are flops in the last few months. (Wonder if Mushy is failing coz he's concentrating on improving his keeping, in which case its ok.)
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Old May 31, 2010, 09:12 AM
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Everyone failed.
Switching places means ASH at #8. I have no problem of Riyad at #5. But after those two poor knocks from Mushfiq, he is not coming ahead of ASH.

I think there will be no change in batting order in the next match.
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Old May 31, 2010, 09:16 AM
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Shamsur and Ash needs to switch places. It is that simple. Actually anyone from the A team or academy team can be a better replacement.
If a new batsman is to come, then it has to be Nayeem. Not Shamsur.
I do not like Nayeem, but you have to take consistent decisions. I do not see Shamsur taking any part in the series.
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Old May 31, 2010, 09:19 AM
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I agree...Riyad's desire and ability to last and score is more thn the 3 idiots in Ash, Sakib and Mushfiq (quite the characters too). All three are flops in the last few months. (Wonder if Mushy is failing coz he's concentrating on improving his keeping, in which case its ok.)
If it continues like this, then it is not OK.
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Old May 31, 2010, 09:24 AM
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If a new batsman is to come, then it has to be Nayeem. Not Shamsur.
I do not like Nayeem, but you have to take consistent decisions. I do not see Shamsur taking any part in the series.
You are correct, Naeem is in line. However, Shamsur is in form against the A teams he faced. He is a top order batsman as well. But yes, To me Ash is doing just fine. It is the selectors and team management who say there is no replacements.

Matter of fact, Jahurul, Shamsur all are better replacements for Ashrafuls and Aftabs. They have brains and that is a huge difference. Averaging 20 days are long gone, Now the deadwoods are averaging even less.
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Mushy, Sakib and Riyad has not done anything special either in this test match.
I wasn't expecting Shak to do much - recovering from chicken pox is a big deal.

As for Mushy and Riyad, if you're going to make people play at #'s 8 and 9, expect no more from them than tail-enders. #9 isn't an ideal position for someone to build an inning. If he can (and these guys have in the past), all power to him, but batting with tail-enders is really no fun.

Mushy and Riyad were doing fine batting higher up, yet we had to bring Ashraful back based on his non-performance and break something that isn't broken. Inexplicable.
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Old May 31, 2010, 09:34 AM
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You are correct, Naeem is in line. However, Shamsur is in form against the A teams he faced. He is a top order batsman as well. But yes, To me Ash is doing just fine. It is the selectors and team management who say there is no replacements.

Matter of fact, Jahurul, Shamsur all are better replacements for Ashrafuls and Aftabs. They have brains and that is a huge difference. Averaging 20 days are long gone, Now the deadwoods are averaging even less.
Agree with you. If you have decided to give ASH the chance to come back in Tests, then you have to play him in top 6. You also cannot drop him after just 1 test now.

Whether ASH should have been picked or not for the series, is a different argument.
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Old May 31, 2010, 09:43 AM
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I wasn't expecting Shak to do much - recovering from chicken pox is a big deal.

As for Mushy and Riyad, if you're going to make people play at #'s 8 and 9, expect no more from them than tail-enders. #9 isn't an ideal position for someone to build an inning. If he can (and these guys have in the past), all power to him, but batting with tail-enders is really no fun.

Mushy and Riyad were doing fine batting higher up, yet we had to bring Ashraful back based on his non-performance and break something that isn't broken. Inexplicable.
Plus they were both batting in difficult conditions with their backs against the wall. ash was batting in good condition with two good partnerships just before. Even i am a fan of the old ash but there are no more excuses left for him to justify his inclusion in the national side. in terms of batting bangladesh have moved on from the days of hoping for eid innings as we get centuries quite frequently now.
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Old May 31, 2010, 09:46 AM
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Plus they were both batting in difficult conditions with their backs against the wall. ash was batting in good condition with two good partnerships just before. Even i am a fan of the old ash but there are no more excuses left for him to justify his inclusion in the national side. in terms of batting bangladesh have moved on from the days of hoping for eid innings as we get centuries quite frequently now.
Spoken my mind. If you have a good batsman in the team, give him the opportunity to build instead of having him come down every time we need our rear ends salvaged. He'll do it once, he'll do it twice, but not everyday. It just isn't feasible.
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Old May 31, 2010, 09:48 AM
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I wasn't expecting Shak to do much - recovering from chicken pox is a big deal.

As for Mushy and Riyad, if you're going to make people play at #'s 8 and 9, expect no more from them than tail-enders. #9 isn't an ideal position for someone to build an inning. If he can (and these guys have in the past), all power to him, but batting with tail-enders is really no fun.

Mushy and Riyad were doing fine batting higher up, yet we had to bring Ashraful back based on his non-performance and break something that isn't broken. Inexplicable.
Mushy's failure actually had nothing to do with tail-enders. He had Riad with him in both the innings.

Yes, Riad was unlucky to be surrounded by tail-enders. But he did not seem to have any answers to the short of length balls rising to his waist. He was either just blocking or edging those. Having said that, he deserves to bat #5 for his consistency in last few tests.

Sakib, well I expected more from him. If he is playing, then I have to assume he is fit enough to play his part. But we all know that no need to worry about him. He comes back with a bang always.

Already mentioned that whether ASH should be picked for the series or not is a different argument. As he is picked, you have to bat him between 3-6.
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Old May 31, 2010, 09:57 AM
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Old May 31, 2010, 10:01 AM
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It's not just about batting with tail-enders. It's also about the situation in which they come in as Ali mentioned. If we have guys who are capable of playing stable innings in the top/middle order, we won't be in a situation where we're having to play catch up every time, because playing catch up is difficult even when you're the best batsman in the side. There's a difference between coming in to bat at 300/3 and 350/6 with a Test match to save.
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Without question, but he must be a front line leg spinner as well, since he better than Riad in spinning
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