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Old September 14, 2010, 10:02 AM
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pace at the cost of accuracy and variety, not sure that's a very good idea, especially in the subcontinent.
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:03 AM
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I want to Wish Mr. Pont all the best. His biography looks good. I am just curious to know what our beloved lotus state of mind is as BCB managed to get a much better coach than Klusener. Bechara lotus ki seka tai na khailo...
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:03 AM
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There is some controversy around him over the Atul Sharma affair but his coaching credentials are clear cut. Definitely a better and cheaper choice than Klusener. He is one of the few coaches nowadays who put pace above everything else. Rubel could turn out to be lethal under him.
On a long term, yeah, but accuracy/variations is the key in flat/slow subcontinent pitches in LOI. He should work on that too. But I agree with you, can see Rubel going places under him if he's half good as what reports suggest.
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:08 AM
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pace at the cost of accuracy and variety, not sure that's a very good idea, especially in the subcontinent.
I agree, but pace do matter. Ive seen what those 'accuracy over pace' bowlers achieved ala Irfan Pathan. Rubel's raw pace alone can get him a few early wickets (even if it costs him a bit).

And it's not like he'll ask them to bowl rubbish length at the same pace anyways.
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:10 AM
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And are these SLOBs () for real? Or just a load of BS?
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:20 AM
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And are these SLOBs () for real? Or just a load of BS?
SLOBs: Slow Ball Bouncer. You Probabily have seen it use by few bowlers.
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:25 AM
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Pont has developed a specialised coaching method known as Advanced Biomechanics Speed & Accuracy Technique and has authored the coaching manual "The Fast Bowler's Bible", which was published in 2006.
..iam impressed!
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:27 AM
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SLOBs: Slow Ball Bouncer. You Probabily have seen it use by few bowlers.
Bet Lee used to do that effectively.
[Bet = sleep of tong, after so many betting controversies!]
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:30 AM
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So what was the rumor? With some sharma?

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Old September 14, 2010, 10:31 AM
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Good news. Looks like he is very good choice. Let's see what he can deliver.
So we have two baseball guy in the coaching stuff.
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:33 AM
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SLOBs: Slow Ball Bouncer. You Probabily have seen it use by few bowlers.
No way. I know what slower ball bouncers are (bowled by broad a lot these days) but SLOBs aints slower ball bouncers, it's called Slower Obsolete Delivery.



Got it from PP, watch Akhtar bowl it @ 1:02, 1:54 and 3:34. Looks like that's what he's talking about.
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:34 AM
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hmm very interesting choice by the BCB, hope it works out
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:39 AM
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No way. I know what slower ball bouncers are (bowled by broad a lot these days) but SLOBs aints slower ball bouncers, it's called Slower Obsolete Delivery.



Got it from PP, watch Akhtar bowl it @ 1:02, 1:54 and 3:34. Looks like that's what he's talking about.
My bad you are right. I got confused with beamer and bouncer.
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:47 AM
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Good choice by BCB. Atm It's not important but as per NTV Shaun Polluk and Graham Dilley were two other candidate.
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:51 AM
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Good choice by BCB. Atm It's not important but as per NTV Shaun Polluk and Graham Dilley were two other candidate.
Pollock was the other candidate? ouch...
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:56 AM
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So what was the rumor? With some sharma?

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I'm not sure but AFAIK he hyped up about a guy called Atul Sharma of whom we didn't even hear before. He said he can bowl express pace and bowl with some bizzare Javelin throw action which he thought would be destructive. And he never bowled in IPL (Pont was the coach of RR I guess). The whole thing is a big goddamn mystery

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My bad you are right. I got confused with beamer and bouncer.
N'probs The tactic should be to invoke fear in batsman who expects a fiery beamer from the fast bowler and clumsily try to get it away. But on the other had, if it ends up as a beamer, the bowler is screwed
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Old September 14, 2010, 10:58 AM
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Ian pont's official website, feel free to check out
http://www.maverickscricket.com/
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Old September 14, 2010, 11:04 AM
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Congrats to Mr. Pont.
Kudos to BCB for clearing the clouds over bowling coach drama.It was surprisingly quick but seems like they made a good choice.
Hope he'd bring some much needed change for our bowlers.

Btw, everyone is getting attention, shouldn't we also get a coach for spin bowlers?? After all, they are our biggest strength in our bowling dept.
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Old September 14, 2010, 11:08 AM
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Congrats to Mr. Pont.
Btw, everyone is getting attention, shouldn't we also get a coach for spin bowlers?? After all, they are our biggest strength in our bowling dept.
I think Salaudding is helping our spinners
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Old September 14, 2010, 11:11 AM
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Yup Shakibrulz, I think this delivery was first used by Glenn McGrath, it was named the snail ball as it sort of stops on the batsman and has a huge dip. But this is perhaps too hard to master, otherwise we would have seen sever bowlers attempting this ball. Instead most of the pacers opt for the slower bouncers and other traditional slower deliveries.
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Old September 14, 2010, 11:22 AM
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Yup Shakibrulz, I think this delivery was first used by Glenn McGrath, it was named the snail ball as it sort of stops on the batsman and has a huge dip. But this is perhaps too hard to master, otherwise we would have seen sever bowlers attempting this ball. Instead most of the pacers opt for the slower bouncers and other traditional slower deliveries.
Agreed, it's hard to control the ball at higher pace, so probably they thought it would be a waste of time. Ian just need to try and help them with the basics, try nothing remotely as challenging as this right now.
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Old September 14, 2010, 11:26 AM
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‘It's not how you start that matters, it's where you finish that counts’ - Ian Pont
hmm...hopefully our pacers can learn something good from him..lets see how he finish his job
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Old September 14, 2010, 11:30 AM
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pace at the cost of accuracy and variety, not sure that's a very good idea, especially in the subcontinent.
couldnt agree more....
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Old September 14, 2010, 11:32 AM
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He has been shortlisted for England bowling coach in last summer after Otis Gibson's resign.It seems to
me he is somebody like John Buchanan,more theoretical and methodical.Hope it will work for BD
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Old September 14, 2010, 12:00 PM
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We found the fast bowling coach fast.
He is coming fast (at 16th) and to coach our fast bowlers .."how to bowl slow balls"

Confused....
They dont need to learn" how to bowl slow" because they already bowl slow
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