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Old October 11, 2010, 11:37 PM
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Default If Mashrafe played the series

Didnt mean to be harsh but wonder if Mash was able to play this series, what could have happen? fficeffice" />

1. The first ODI would have been hard to win. The time Sakib came into bowling was only possible as Sakib being the captain. Wish Mash, he would continue to bowl 5 overs, giving NZ much opportunity to sustain wickets.

2. Mash was bowling 120-124K during the first over without any trouble to NZ opener. Not sure, why the media was saying he is back to 'tremendous' form, how so?

3. Shuvo would not be in the team if Mash played. This could adversely effect the result of 2nd game.

Once again, this is not a Mashrafe bashing thread, so don't get upset - put up your thought on how this would have been different
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Old October 11, 2010, 11:47 PM
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What's the point of looking into it soooo hard? What's done is done! Be happy we won both matches despite Mash being able to play or not ...
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Old October 11, 2010, 11:57 PM
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shuvo was a replacement for Nayeem not Mash. had mash played, rubel would have not been picked. A fit mashrafee in One day will always make BD bowling stronger (given he doesn't ball death overs).

but I do agree however, this so called "2nd string BD" team is 2nd string by name only but is equally strong, if not better than "main" team.

For example, replacement for injured nazmul was actually by our main bowler...making the team stronger... I don't think nazmul at this point would have gotten the nod ahead of shafiul.
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Old October 12, 2010, 06:27 AM
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A fit Mash will (IMPOV):

1. Increase team's strength to at-least 10%
2. Increase team's mental strength/support to around 20%
3. 10% more happy dressing room
4. Keep opponent 5% more busy making plans against him

He is always an asset.
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Old October 12, 2010, 07:09 AM
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I am rather interested in "If Mohammad Ashraful played the series" thingy :p
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Old October 12, 2010, 07:21 AM
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A fit Mash will (IMPOV):

1. Increase team's strength to at-least 10%
2. Increase team's mental strength/support to around 20%
3. 10% more happy dressing room
4. Keep opponent 5% more busy making plans against him

He is always an asset.
Agreed

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Old October 12, 2010, 07:38 AM
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I am rather interested in "If Mohammad Ashraful played the series" thingy :p
a dozen or so new thread with his name on it

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Old October 12, 2010, 08:13 AM
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I am rather interested in "If Mohammad Ashraful played the series" thingy :p
"Ami goto koek match kharap khelechi".....after the series
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Old October 12, 2010, 08:31 AM
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A fit Mash will (IMPOV):

1. Increase team's strength to at-least 10%
2. Increase team's mental strength/support to around 20%
3. 10% more happy dressing room
4. Keep opponent 5% more busy making plans against him

He is always an asset.
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Old October 12, 2010, 08:32 AM
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"Ami goto koek match kharap khelechi".....after the series
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Old October 12, 2010, 09:53 AM
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ashrafool should say "goto koek bosor dhore ami run pachchi na!" :haipull:
on topic:mashrafe is in form right now,he could have gotten some really early wickets.plus he's liked by everyone in the team,he could give the team a moral boost up
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Old October 12, 2010, 08:57 PM
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Didnt mean to be harsh but wonder if Mash was able to play this series, what could have happen? fficeffice" />

1. The first ODI would have been hard to win. The time Sakib came into bowling was only possible as Sakib being the captain. Wish Mash, he would continue to bowl 5 overs, giving NZ much opportunity to sustain wickets.

2. Mash was bowling 120-124K during the first over without any trouble to NZ opener. Not sure, why the media was saying he is back to 'tremendous' form, how so?

3. Shuvo would not be in the team if Mash played. This could adversely effect the result of 2nd game.

Once again, this is not a Mashrafe bashing thread, so don't get upset - put up your thought on how this would have been different
1. Wrong. Mash always let Sakib bowl when he wanted to and on the right time. If Mash was playing, We wouldnt have to bowl Nazmul until his 9th over giving away essential runs. Same with Mahmudullah.
2. About his speed, as he mentioned the track was slippery and he was having difficulties bowling so that couldve been why he was unable to bowl 130k.
3. As mentioned, Shuvo was not a replacement for Mash. Its pretty stupid to suggest that. His replacement was Rubel who played well in the second ODI but i dunt see how Mash couldn't have done better.

On whole it wouldve helped to have Mash who is a very good bowler and can slog better than half of our team. He is also our captain and the most experienced in the team. So nice try.....
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Old October 12, 2010, 09:41 PM
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rubbish thread.

Thread opener should open another thread like "what wud happen if Tamim played?"
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Old October 12, 2010, 11:59 PM
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"Ami goto koek match kharap khelechi".....after the series
haha....nice joke
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Old October 13, 2010, 12:01 AM
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rubbish thread.

Thread opener should open another thread like "what wud happen if Tamim played?"
if u like u can open another thread too...but don't say to rubbish other people thread. please mind your language..thanks.
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Old October 13, 2010, 12:23 AM
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If Mashrafee played we would have been down 2 nil. His injury has been a blessing in disguise.
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Old October 13, 2010, 12:24 AM
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rubbish thread.

Thread opener should open another thread like "what wud happen if Tamim played?"
Everyone is entitled to express their opinion, needless to call it a rubbish thread.
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Old October 13, 2010, 09:39 AM
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shakib is a good player. I have no doubt in that.

Shakib is a good captain. I have no doubt in that.


BUT, if you leave shakib in captaincy for 2-3 more months, team spirit will fall apart.


To be a captain, you need to handle both in and off the field situations/relations, which Shakib is not capable of.


Mashrafee, Khaled mahmood, and Habibul Bashar used to be or are one of those influential figures in Bangladesh cricket, who can motivate and get the most out of their players. hence, even if mashrafee gives out runs at 7.00/over I would still want to keep him in the team.


And as for the outcome of the first ODI. hehe. Bangladesh won by 9 runs only. If you subtract Mash's batting contribution, Bangladesh would not win the match then.
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Old October 13, 2010, 10:07 AM
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^^^thik i bolsen bhai.keno je manush eishob kotha bujhe na...
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Old October 13, 2010, 10:18 AM
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shakib is a good player. I have no doubt in that.

Shakib is a good captain. I have no doubt in that.


BUT, if you leave shakib in captaincy for 2-3 more months, team spirit will fall apart.


To be a captain, you need to handle both in and off the field situations/relations, which Shakib is not capable of.


Mashrafee, Khaled mahmood, and Habibul Bashar used to be or are one of those influential figures in Bangladesh cricket, who can motivate and get the most out of their players. hence, even if mashrafee gives out runs at 7.00/over I would still want to keep him in the team.
And as for the outcome of the first ODI. hehe. Bangladesh won by 9 runs only. If you subtract Mash's batting contribution, Bangladesh would not win the match then.
+++ couldnt agree any more. great post
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Old October 13, 2010, 11:49 AM
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shakib is a good player. I have no doubt in that.

Shakib is a good captain. I have no doubt in that.


BUT, if you leave shakib in captaincy for 2-3 more months, team spirit will fall apart.


To be a captain, you need to handle both in and off the field situations/relations, which Shakib is not capable of.


Mashrafee, Khaled mahmood, and Habibul Bashar used to be or are one of those influential figures in Bangladesh cricket, who can motivate and get the most out of their players. hence, even if mashrafee gives out runs at 7.00/over I would still want to keep him in the team.


And as for the outcome of the first ODI. hehe. Bangladesh won by 9 runs only. If you subtract Mash's batting contribution, Bangladesh would not win the match then.
Are you kidding me? What has Mash done to motivate people lately? He’s been injured more of than all the players combined, he then walked out of the team (unprofessionally) and then stayed with the IPL team instead of staying with the team to support them (I understand, money was a motive and I would've done the same) which doesn't make him insipirational, does it?

And what has Shakib done to not motivate people? If anything, Shakib is more professional than Mash. I like Mash the most after Shak but I don’t think Mash is a captaincy material. Just because he’s popular, which I doubt he is, doesn’t make him a good leader. You know that in a team set up there are popular players and then there players who are effective and successful. And as far as Shakib, he’s popular, effective and successful.

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Old October 13, 2010, 08:49 PM
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What has Mash not done? he was with IPL because he wanted to work with the expertise there to get back. Sakib is a great player. It does not mean he is a better captain. Tendulkar is the best player in the world. Doesn't mean, people thought he would make a better captain.
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Old October 14, 2010, 07:39 AM
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What has Mash not done? he was with IPL because he wanted to work with the expertise there to get back. Sakib is a great player. It does not mean he is a better captain. Tendulkar is the best player in the world. Doesn't mean, people thought he would make a better captain.
correct me if i am wrong.. but isnt it under shakibs captaincy that we have won the ODI series - first against WI , now NZ.. cant remember any other captain in bangladesh history doing that! so, where is all this fuss about shakib's captaincy coming from?
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Old October 14, 2010, 08:52 PM
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I am rather interested in "If Mohammad Ashraful played the series" thingy :p
if tamim played the series ?

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Old October 15, 2010, 07:15 AM
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The million dollar question for me is what will happen after Mash comes back??? Last time during the WI tour when he got injured Shakib grabbed his position like there no tomorow (rightly so), this time again amar kase mone hoy abar o moyna mashrafeer position khabe.

If the selectors are smart they'll let Mashrafee captain the Zim series if he's fit by then inshallah. Since he hasnt had many opportunities to show his full potential as captain unlike bossman. That should decide who will captain during worldcup
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