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Old May 14, 2015, 10:14 AM
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Mushy is not a good enough test keeper. In limited over he stays switched on throughout but in Tests he loses focus. That combined with the fact that he's never been a natural keeper and frankly is too short to have the sufficient range means that keeping in Tests is what he should give up.
Let him first give up captaincy...
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Old May 14, 2015, 06:03 PM
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Seems like they'll keep him as captain, biggest chance for change is they'll force the gloves off him (because as many of us suspected he doesn't want to give them up even when injured).
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Old May 15, 2015, 03:30 AM
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Mushy is the best batsman in the team. He should bat at #4 for now in tests. To me BCB is Right to decrease hislwork load. For now we don't have any captain to take over. So its time to put off the gloves and concentrate more on captaincy and batting.
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Old May 15, 2015, 08:42 AM
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Mark my words.. Mushy will still be horrible captain even if he is not keeping. Cricketing sense and leadership quality does not come from reduced work load. Dhoni is an attacking captain even after doing all the 3 jobs Mushy is doing in all formats of the game.

He may improve keeping with practice and become an even better batsman, but don't see him changing as the skipper of the team.
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Old May 15, 2015, 11:19 AM
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Mark my words.. Mushy will still be horrible captain even if he is not keeping. Cricketing sense and leadership quality does not come from reduced work load. Dhoni is an attacking captain even after doing all the 3 jobs Mushy is doing in all formats of the game.

He may improve keeping with practice and become an even better batsman, but don't see him changing as the skipper of the team.
I have a same kind of feeling. Mushy will not be a good captain. In that case we will have to go back to Shakib. The thing is Shakib is immature and indesciplined. May be Shakib will get his captaincy back.
No matter who is the captain or wicket keeper, we want the best batsman from Mushy.
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Old May 15, 2015, 01:46 PM
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Bangladesh's Mushfiqur conundrum

MOHAMMAD ISAM Share on Facebook Share on Twitter With BCB not looking for a new captain for the lone Test against India, Mushfiqur Rahim's position is secure for the moment. But questions remain over his methods

BCB president Nazmul Hassan has said Mushfiqur Rahim will be asked in the near future to choose between captaincy and wicketkeeping in Tests © AFP
When the BCB president Nazmul Hassan says they are not looking for a new Test captain for the one-off Test against India next month, it is as good as the last word. Mushfiqur Rahim can consider himself lucky to have survived the axe.

Certainly Shakib Al Hasan and Tamim Iqbal are strong contenders for the position given their experience, particularly in the case of Shakib who was the captain for two years till August 2011. In the current scenario, however, time (more precisely the lack of it) between Bangladesh's last Test against Pakistan that ended on May 9 and their next one, starting on June 10, is helping Mushfiqur stay on the job. Hassan said there was very little time to replace Mushfiqur and that he couldn't find someone who could be made the new Test captain.

Mushfiqur was sacked as the ODI and T20 captain in September 2014 after winning only two games out of four Tests, 13 ODIs and seven T20s in nine months, after two years of leading the side with mostly success in the ODIs. After replacing him, Mashrafe Mortaza changed the face of Bangladesh's limited overs side with a 5-0 win over Zimbabwe in November last year, a World Cup quarterfinal finish earlier this year and the 3-0 and 1-0 wins over Pakistan last month.

In the new split-captaincy era, Mushfiqur led Bangladesh to a 3-0 Test series win over Zimbabwe in October-November last year, but it is the 1-0 loss to Pakistan last month that has raised questions about his position as the captain. His biggest mistake was letting Pakistan off the hook, twice.

Mushfiqur had inherited a team with a level of confidence that was unprecedented in Bangladesh cricket. He could have kept the pressure on their newly defanged visitors by picking a stronger bowling attack in the first Test. Since Shakib had already said he would need time to bowl in long spells and the attack would include a debutant pace bowler, the selection of Shuvagata Hom ahead of Jubair Hossain looked defensive.

Mushfiqur said ahead of the Test match that they were looking to take 20 wickets to win the game, but he didn't mention how long it would take them. In the case of the Khulna Test, the first ten wickets took them 168.4 overs.

More baffling were the three decisions ahead of the second Test, and the explanations that came with them. On a Mirpur wicket that had some grass on it, Bangladesh picked only two frontline pace bowlers in Mohammad Shahid and Shahadat Hossain. If the intention was to use the early help, they should have also added Abul Hasan to the mix. Instead Mushfiqur decided to field first with the two pace bowlers. Shahadat's injury in the first over meant that Shahid was a one-man attack bowling 41 overs in the match.


Shakib Al Hasan remains the team's best cricketer and should be the first choice because of the inspiration he evoked for the most of his two-year reign as captain © AFP
At the end of the Test match, Mushfiqur said the reason behind leaving grass on the wicket and letting pace bowlers have more help was due to criticism of the Khulna pitch for being too slow and not offering a result.

Mushfiqur dismissed the two-man pace attack theory by saying considered the military medium of Soumya Sarkar as the third seam option. Soumya was given just one over in the previous Test while having bowled just seven overs in ten ODIs. The last time he had bowled more than ten overs in a first-class game was in February 2014.

As a wicketkeeper and batsman, too, Mushfiqur had a dreadful time in the two Tests. It started with a soft dismissal in the first innings of the first Test when he bunted a catch to cover after making 32. He went on to drop two straightforward catches within the first 35 overs of Pakistan's reply. While dropping the second catch, he sprained his right ring finger and left the field for the rest of the innings. Bangladesh had almost saved the Test when he came out to bat on the fifth day and made a five-ball duck.

Mushfiqur said he would struggle with the finger injury in the second Test. Bangladesh had the choice of handing the wicketkeeping duties to Litton Das who was in the 14-man squad but Mushfiqur, as one of those who decides the playing XI, wanted to continue as wicketkeeper, batsman and captain. During the two Pakistan innings, there were instances when he was visibly uncomfortable after gathering the ball. He made just 12 and 0 in the game, ending it as his fourth worst two-match Test series in terms of runs scored.

The BCB president also said Mushfiqur will be asked, in the near future, to choose between captaincy and wicketkeeping in the longer version. If he gives up the gloves even temporarily, the selectors do not have a ready replacement. Anamul Haque doesn't yet have the wicketkeeping or batting credentials in Test cricket. Mohammad Mithun was unconvincing last year in the ODIs and T20s. Among the uncapped wicketkeepers, the selectors have picked Litton in the squad and he is one for the future, but certainly not someone considered good enough to replace Mushfiqur behind the stumps or else he would have in the second Test against Pakistan.

The BCB, however, could think of replacing him as captain for the two Tests against South Africa in July. Perhaps that is long enough time to chew over the candidates. Shakib remains the team's best cricketer and should be the first choice because of the inspiration he evoked for the most of his two-year reign. Tamim is Mushfiqur's current deputy and can lay claim to the job too, but he has said he needs to learn more about the job.

The question remains whether it's too soon to relieve Mushfiqur of the Test captaincy. Former Bangladesh captain Gazi Ashraf Hossain has recently said blaming Mushfiqur was unfair given the bowling attack he has had to operate with. The other argument that Ashraf put forth was that the heavy dependency on the coach in the Bangladesh team's setup. It is hard to ignore the fact that Chandika Hathurusingha has a major say in cricketing matters. But it is hard to imagine Mushfiqur not having a say either.

When BCB split the captaincy, there were fears that Mashrafe, Mushfiqur, Shakib and Tamim form an unwieldy leadership group. When part of the split was successful in the limited-overs format, there was hope that Mashrafe's success would rub off on Mushfiqur. But as the two Tests against Pakistan have shown, he has to go through a change in mindset and then hope his teammates can be influenced by it. A Bangladesh team that is moving ahead now needs a Test captain who reflects the team's new mentality. Mashrafe has shown he has it. Mushfiqur hasn't.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...ry/876237.html
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I specially liked the fact that Isam pointed out that playing somya as a third seamer is a joke since Mushfiq in the past never had enough faith in him to give him some overs. He was merely using that as an excuse for the wrong decision he made. And this Gazi Ashraf guy cracks me up. So it is unfair to blame mushfiq as he himself chose the playing XI first place??
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Old May 15, 2015, 06:31 PM
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He needs to focus on being a batting specialist, the wicket keeping has always been an issue for him and we always said give him time he'll improve, whilst on his good days he's certainly capable, he has way too many bad days in tests and he's had 10 years or something of working on it so far.

As for the captaincy, It's also been a problem from early on in his reign, he's been at it a few years now, he captained the team in a very poor year last year and as soon as mash took over in shorter formats the team did a lot better, now he's got insecurity issues and is probably biased as well when it comes to team selection. He shouldn't be captain, and if he is he shouldn't get a say in the playing XI, he's obviously not trustworthy to do what is right for the team.
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With him it is hurting us two ways, like a double sword. In one hand, his stubborn, inept captaincy has lost us many matches and on the other hand we are not getting 100% from his batting at least in test where his batting is more important to us than anything. Let a specialist keeper do his job, give the captaincy to someone else and just focus on batting man.
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With him it is hurting us two ways, like a double sword. In one hand, his stubborn, inept captaincy has lost us many matches and on the other hand we are not getting 100% from his batting at least in test where his batting is more important to us than anything. Let a specialist keeper do his job, give the captaincy to someone else and just focus on batting man.
If you look at it like that then he's also hurting us by missing the dismissal opportunities.
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Among the seven wicketkeepers who have played at least 40 Tests since July 2007 (when Mushfiqur started keeping for Bangladesh), he has played the fewest games. But he is the fourth highest scorer, behind MS Dhoni, Matt Prior and Brad Haddin, during this period.
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It only highlights he is pretty darn good batsman. The stats does not say how good he is managing both roles.
Also if you take into account his keeping errors, bet its got to be one of the worst.
This is probably an indication he should give up keeping and become a batsman only.
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