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Old January 23, 2011, 05:49 PM
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Default Solving the problem of Wildcard slot...

...and why Ashraful might be the correct answer.

Yes, after having seen the highlights of the today's India/South Africa match it seems that the game was more of a cunning experiment by the Indians than an actual forfeit. With three top guns down Sehwag, Gambhir and Tendulkar can anyone perhaps deny that they were more concerned about their lower order strength than the actual opening defense? If the thinktanks wanted an answer for their number seven position then they certainly got their response from the Pathan's beastfest.

Alea iaecta est... Yes before the return of the triumvirate, the pattern has been set by Pathan at number seven slot and chances are India would NOT move him up the order during World Cup. If the strategy is that to maintain and monolithic squad then their team would not likely to represent an orthodox tapering off of big hitters. Heck they would even want their last man to be proxied by Gilliespie!

So the inevitable question now remains? Does Bangladesh have answer for their number seven slot? And if it boils down between Nayeem, Riyad and Ashraful who would be the perfect man for the job?

Let first look at some stats shall we? Who are the esteemed ones to hold the number seven slot and make the most out of it? Readers may first want to quiz their hunches before actually looking at the table. The following is a general setting of the players playing at number 7 slot of 20 players.

CZ Harris (NZ) 1990-2004 124 104 36 2130 63* 31.32 3180 66.98 0 9 6
Abdul Razzaq (Asia/Pak) 1999-2010 93 83 22 2004 109* 32.85 2210 90.67 1 9 4
SM Pollock (Afr/SA) 1996-2008 117 81 26 1633 130 29.69 1836 88.94 1 7 5
N Kapil Dev (India) 1978-1994 90 75 13 1499 87 24.17 1712 87.55 0 6 5
Moin Khan (Pak) 1990-2004 84 71 13 1420 72* 24.48 1729 82.12 0 7 5
IA Healy (Aus) 1988-1997 99 78 21 1238 56 21.71 1452 85.26 0 3 9
Wasim Akram (Pak) 1986-2003 103 86 12 1222 86 16.51 1385 88.23 0 3 9
E Chigumbura (Zim) 2004-2010 47 43 7 1111 77 30.86 1344 82.66 0 8 2
Khaled Mashud (Ban) 1997-2006 57 52 10 1073 71* 25.54 1857 57.78 0 5 4
JR Hopes (Aus) 2006-2010 49 40 6 942 63* 27.70 961 98.02 0 3 1
RW Marsh (Aus) 1971-1984 64 54 11 904 54* 21.02 1143 79.09 0 3 5
HH Streak (Zim) 1993-2005 47 40 12 864 68 30.85 1175 73.53 0 4 1
MV Boucher (Afr/SA) 1999-2010 68 44 16 846 57* 30.21 991 85.36 0 3 4
Shahid Afridi (Pak) 1996-2011 56 45 9 828 85 23.00 633 130.80 0 2 2
UDU Chandana (SL) 1994-2005 66 51 4 815 64 17.34 1093 74.56 0 4 3
Sir RJ Hadlee (NZ) 1975-1990 47 40 8 808 79 25.25 1127 71.69 0 4 2
Mahmudullah (Ban) 2007-2010 43 38 11 801 64* 29.66 1122 71.39 0 3 1
TM Odoyo (Kenya) 1996-2010 43 38 7 774 111* 24.96 1040 74.42 1 2 6
BB McCullum (NZ) 2002-2007 49 40 8 752 86* 23.50 892 84.30 0 2 4
SP O'Donnell (Aus) 1985-1991 50 38 12 717 74* 27.57 950 75.47 0 5 3


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Compare it with the 7 slot players in the past 12 months:

CZ Harris (NZ) 1990-2004 124 104 36 2130 63* 31.32 3180 66.98 0 9 6
Abdul Razzaq (Asia/Pak) 1999-2010 93 83 22 2004 109* 32.85 2210 90.67 1 9 4
SM Pollock (Afr/SA) 1996-2008 117 81 26 1633 130 29.69 1836 88.94 1 7 5
N Kapil Dev (India) 1978-1994 90 75 13 1499 87 24.17 1712 87.55 0 6 5
Moin Khan (Pak) 1990-2004 84 71 13 1420 72* 24.48 1729 82.12 0 7 5
IA Healy (Aus) 1988-1997 99 78 21 1238 56 21.71 1452 85.26 0 3 9
Wasim Akram (Pak) 1986-2003 103 86 12 1222 86 16.51 1385 88.23 0 3 9
E Chigumbura (Zim) 2004-2010 47 43 7 1111 77 30.86 1344 82.66 0 8 2
Khaled Mashud (Ban) 1997-2006 57 52 10 1073 71* 25.54 1857 57.78 0 5 4
JR Hopes (Aus) 2006-2010 49 40 6 942 63* 27.70 961 98.02 0 3 1
RW Marsh (Aus) 1971-1984 64 54 11 904 54* 21.02 1143 79.09 0 3 5
HH Streak (Zim) 1993-2005 47 40 12 864 68 30.85 1175 73.53 0 4 1
MV Boucher (Afr/SA) 1999-2010 68 44 16 846 57* 30.21 991 85.36 0 3 4
Shahid Afridi (Pak) 1996-2011 56 45 9 828 85 23.00 633 130.80 0 2 2
UDU Chandana (SL) 1994-2005 66 51 4 815 64 17.34 1093 74.56 0 4 3
Sir RJ Hadlee (NZ) 1975-1990 47 40 8 808 79 25.25 1127 71.69 0 4 2
Mahmudullah (Ban) 2007-2010 43 38 11 801 64* 29.66 1122 71.39 0 3 1
TM Odoyo (Kenya) 1996-2010 43 38 7 774 111* 24.96 1040 74.42 1 2 6
BB McCullum (NZ) 2002-2007 49 40 8 752 86* 23.50 892 84.30 0 2 4
SP O'Donnell (Aus) 1985-1991 50 38 12 717 74* 27.57 950 75.47 0 5 3

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Filtered by highest scores at #7 during the past 12 months. Top 15:

Overall figures
Abdul Razzaq (Pak) 4 4 1 156 109* 52.00 134 116.41 1 0 0 10 10
YK Pathan (India) 7 7 1 215 105 35.83 174 123.56 1 1 0 17 14
P Utseya (Zim) 4 4 1 114 67 38.00 161 70.80 0 1 0 5 4
KA Pollard (WI) 8 8 0 245 62 30.62 226 108.40 0 1 0 17 11
Mohammad Nabi (Afgh) 7 6 2 122 60 30.50 138 88.40 0 1 0 9 5
GC Wilson (Ire) 2 2 0 64 60 32.00 74 86.48 0 1 0 6 0
GD Elliott (NZ) 4 4 0 88 59 22.00 165 53.33 0 1 1 8 0
JR Hopes (Aus) 12 10 1 299 57* 33.22 284 105.28 0 1 0 32 0
CK Kapugedera (SL) 3 3 1 67 55* 33.50 122 54.91 0 1 0 4 1
JF Mooney (Ire) 5 5 2 142 54 47.33 201 70.64 0 1 0 16 1
TM Odoyo (Kenya) 3 3 1 71 52* 35.50 55 129.09 0 1 1 7 2
Kamran Akmal (Pak) 3 3 0 88 51 29.33 83 106.02 0 1 0 5 3
E Chigumbura (Zim) 8 8 1 195 50 27.85 228 85.52 0 1 0 20 1
SB Styris (NZ) 1 1 1 49 49* - 34 144.11 0 0 0 7 1
ZE Surkari (Can) 1 1 0 49 49 49.00 69 71.01 0 0 0 5 0

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Bangladeshi players at number 7:

Khaled Mashud 1997-2006 57 52 10 1073 71* 25.54 1857 57.78 0 5 4
Mahmudullah 2007-2010 43 38 11 801 64* 29.66 1122 71.39 0 3 1
Khaled Mahmud 1998-2006 19 18 0 247 36 13.72 364 67.85 0 0 0
Alok Kapali 2002-2006 7 7 0 219 55 31.28 290 75.51 0 1 0
Mushfiqur Rahim 2006-2009 14 11 2 194 38* 21.55 353 54.95 0 0 2
Mohammad Rafique 1997-2007 14 12 1 173 39 15.72 169 102.36 0 0 0
Mashrafe Mortaza 2005-2008 11 8 2 131 44* 21.83 87 150.57 0 0 1
Naeem Islam 2008-2010 9 7 4 94 23* 31.33 116 81.03 0 0 0
Farhad Reza 2007-2008 6 6 1 77 26 15.40 103 74.75 0 0 0
Manjural Islam Rana 2004-2005 4 4 1 60 33* 20.00 118 50.84 0 0 0
Mohammad Ashraful 2007-2007 4 3 2 56 45* 56.00 91 61.53 0 0 0
Mushfiqur Rahman 2003-2004 6 6 0 56 22 9.33 110 50.90 0 0 3
Dhiman Ghosh 2008-2008 7 6 1 50 30 10.00 100 50.00 0 0 1
Sanwar Hossain 2003-2003 4 4 0 44 19 11.00 100 44.00 0 0 1
Tushar Imran 2005-2007 3 3 0 44 31 14.66 72 61.11 0 0 1
Naimur Rahman 1995-2002 5 4 0 42 36 10.50 75 56.00 0 0 1
Aminul Islam 1990-1990 1 1 1 41 41* - 76 53.94 0 0 0
Enamul Haque 1990-1997 5 5 2 29 13* 9.66 80 36.25 0 0 0
Shakib Al Hasan 2007-2009 3 2 1 20 15 20.00 42 47.61 0 0 0
Golam Faruq 1986-1986 2 2 1 17 14 17.00 43 39.53 0 0 0

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...in the past 12 months

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Mahmudullah 15 14 3 217 42 19.72 367 59.12 0 0 1 13 1
Naeem Islam 6 4 2 62 23* 31.00 81 76.54 0 0 0 4 0
Suhrawadi Shuvo 1 1 0 11 11 11.00 18 61.11 0 0 0 1 0
Faisal Hossain 1 - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Mohammad Ashrfaul in number 7 compared with career average:

Career averages

Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
unfiltered 164 157 13 3360 109 23.33 4746 70.79 3 20 12 339 29 Profile
filtered 4 3 2 56 45* 56.00 91 61.53 0 0 0 7 0

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Eventhough Mahmudullah leads Pathan in the past 12 months in terms of #7 performance, Ashraful is statistically ahead than Riyad in all categories.

Ashraful fools us once again.
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Old January 23, 2011, 06:02 PM
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I see Gopal has not yet finished his post, but just thought I should mention this - we previously thought Ashraful can be solution for other positions too ie opening or one-down, where he will have license to hit over the top. But Ashraful remained Ashraful - a dead weight who delivers only once in a blue moon.

Anyway, to be honest, I am also looking forward to see how the latest experiment with Ash may turn out (provided Siddons too is thinking about using him at #7).
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Old January 23, 2011, 06:21 PM
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BTW, looking at the stats, Mahmudullah does not look so bad, at least in our standard.
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^Ya riyad's stats don't look bad at all compared to our standards
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Mahmadullah is a really good find for Bangladesh Cricket, but I think he is better away from home?
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Ash show us if you are better than Pathan - win it against India and claim your position
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Mahmadullah is a really good find for Bangladesh Cricket, but I think he is better away from home?
You may have a point there. Lets look at stats for leading #7s on Asian grounds, for last three years (excluding stats against Zimbabwe and associates) -

Mahmudullah (Ban) 2008-2010 20 19 5 377 64* 26.92 541 69.68 0 2 1 29 3
RA Jadeja (India) 2009-2010 19 12 2 226 57 22.60 357 63.30 0 1 2 18 1
E Chigumbura (Zim) 2008-2010 7 7 1 216 64 36.00 306 70.58 0 2 0 20 2
Kamran Akmal (Pak) 2008-2010 10 9 1 208 67* 26.00 190 109.47 0 2 0 13 9
YK Pathan (India) 2008-2010 13 9 3 169 59* 28.16 154 109.74 0 2 1 12 8
Shahid Afridi (Pak) 2008-2010 12 10 2 162 32 20.25 135 120.00 0 0 1 14 4
Abdul Razzaq (Pak) 2010-2010 4 4 1 156 109* 52.00 134 116.41 1 0 0 10 10
AD Mathews (SL) 2009-2010 12 7 0 153 51 21.85 176 86.93 0 1 0 11 0

If you compare him with Akmal, Pathan, Afridi, and Razzaq, his SR certainly looks very poor. But then again, Mahmudullah may have been more concerned about surviving till 50 overs (which is still a big concern for our team) as opposed to making maximum use of last ten overs.

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You may have a point there. Lets look at stats for leading #7s on Asian grounds, for last three years (excluding stats against Zimbabwe and associates) -

Mahmudullah (Ban) 2008-2010 20 19 5 377 64* 26.92 541 69.68 0 2 1 29 3
RA Jadeja (India) 2009-2010 19 12 2 226 57 22.60 357 63.30 0 1 2 18 1
E Chigumbura (Zim) 2008-2010 7 7 1 216 64 36.00 306 70.58 0 2 0 20 2
Kamran Akmal (Pak) 2008-2010 10 9 1 208 67* 26.00 190 109.47 0 2 0 13 9
YK Pathan (India) 2008-2010 13 9 3 169 59* 28.16 154 109.74 0 2 1 12 8
Shahid Afridi (Pak) 2008-2010 12 10 2 162 32 20.25 135 120.00 0 0 1 14 4
Abdul Razzaq (Pak) 2010-2010 4 4 1 156 109* 52.00 134 116.41 1 0 0 10 10
AD Mathews (SL) 2009-2010 12 7 0 153 51 21.85 176 86.93 0 1 0 11 0

If you compare him with Akmal, Pathan, Afridi, and Razzaq, his SR certainly looks very poor. But then again, Mahmudullah may have been more concerned about surviving till 50 overs (which is still a big concern for our team) as opposed to making maximum use of last ten overs.
His strike rate is poorer at home and so is his average..
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Hehehehe! Eshen bhai apnee jokhon amake Gopal bole daken ki apon amar mone hoy! Money hoy ami jotoi gadhami korina ken amar kache bondhu hishabe apnee thakben abong proyojoney hemlock gile khaben amake rokha korar jonno! Go Eshen bhai! Go Bangladesh! Go Riyad! Go Ashraful!
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Okay going back on topic: Mahmudullah said he's working on big shots. Has there been any evidence of it in premier league? Shastri said Riyad is solidly built and should definitely move up the order. He has got strong wrist and can play the big shots.

On the other hand, Ashraful though has poorer shot selection has more variety in his shots. If he concentrates he can manipulate the field easily during PP overs.
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^^ Zeeshan bhai, tomar post pore khub moja pai, ar tai tomare khub pochhondo kori. Tobe hemlock-er dhare kachhe ami nai :-)

About Mahmudullah's average, I don't think it has to do so much with home or away, everyone's averages (including that of Tendu) comes down when you filter out stats against Zimbabwe and associates.

His SR stays pretty much same in both cases - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

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Ashraful still leads the #7 slot in terms of batting average despite not being playing at that position enough

Overall figures
Mohammad Ashraful 2007-2007 4 3 2 56 45* 56.00 91 61.53 0 0 0
Aminul Islam 1990-1990 1 1 1 41 41* - 76 53.94 0 0 0
Naeem Islam 2008-2010 9 7 4 94 23* 31.33 116 81.03 0 0 0
Alok Kapali 2002-2006 7 7 0 219 55 31.28 290 75.51 0 1 0
Mahmudullah 2007-2010 43 38 11 801 64* 29.66 1122 71.39 0 3 1
Khaled Mashud 1997-2006 57 52 10 1073 71* 25.54 1857 57.78 0 5 4
Mashrafe Mortaza 2005-2008 11 8 2 131 44* 21.83 87 150.57 0 0 1
Mushfiqur Rahim 2006-2009 14 11 2 194 38* 21.55 353 54.95 0 0 2
Manjural Islam Rana 2004-2005 4 4 1 60 33* 20.00 118 50.84 0 0 0
Shakib Al Hasan 2007-2009 3 2 1 20 15 20.00 42 47.61 0 0 0
Golam Faruq 1986-1986 2 2 1 17 14 17.00 43 39.53 0 0 0
Mohammad Rafique 1997-2007 14 12 1 173 39 15.72 169 102.36 0 0 0
Farhad Reza 2007-2008 6 6 1 77 26 15.40 103 74.75 0 0 0
Tushar Imran 2005-2007 3 3 0 44 31 14.66 72 61.11 0 0 1
Khaled Mahmud 1998-2006 19 18 0 247 36 13.72 364 67.85 0 0 0
Sanwar Hossain 2003-2003 4 4 0 44 19 11.00 100 44.00 0 0 1
Suhrawadi Shuvo 2010-2010 1 1 0 11 11 11.00 18 61.11 0 0 0
Naimur Rahman 1995-2002 5 4 0 42 36 10.50 75 56.00 0 0 1
Aftab Ahmed 2007-2007 1 1 0 10 10 10.00 5 200.00 0 0 0
Dhiman Ghosh 2008-2008 7 6 1 50 30 10.00 100 50.00 0 0 1
Enamul Haque 1990-1997 5 5 2 29 13* 9.66 80 36.25 0 0 0
Mushfiqur Rahman 2003-2004 6 6 0 56 22 9.33 110 50.90 0 0 3
Jahangir Shah 1988-1988 1 1 1 8 8* - 35 22.85 0 0 0
Mafizur Rahman 1997-1997 1 1 0 6 6 6.00 12 50.00 0 0 0
Zahid Razzak 1988-1988 1 1 0 6 6 6.00 21 28.57 0 0 0
Akram Khan 1988-1999 3 3 0 13 9 4.33 39 33.33 0 0 1
Niamur Rashid 1999-1999 1 1 1 4 4* - 3 133.33 0 0 0
Habibul Bashar 2004-2007 2 1 0 2 2 2.00 6 33.33 0 0 0
Mehrab Hossain jnr 2009-2009 1 1 0 2 2 2.00 4 50.00 0 0 0
Raqibul Hasan 2008-2008 1 1 0 0 0 0.00 1 0.00 0 0 1
Faisal Hossain 2010-2010 1 - - - - - - - - - -


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Riyad has the build to be a big hitter. When he's in form he can play shots once he spends time at the crease. I just feel that he's not capable of hitting a 10 ball 20 or even a 20 ball 30. He needs more balls to play before he can start hitting. I believe naeem even though is better when he spends a long time at the crease, is capable of playing quickfire innings. I believe naeems better at #7 then riyad. Ash could be a good #7 but its still a big risk. You just don't know what to expect from ash and that from a #7 even isn't good. Also in england once he played down the order, he wasn't very impressive. So I think naeem could be the best man as of now at the #7

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If you look at our stats at Bangladesh only, for last three years, against top 7 (WI has not visited us in the period). Mahmudullah looks quite good, in comparison with other Bangladeshi batsmen (from all positions).

On the other hand, Ashraful's average looks good too, but SR is very poor!

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

Abdur Razzak 2008-2010 19 14 4 119 27 11.90 138 86.23 0 0 1 9 3
Tamim Iqbal 2008-2010 17 17 0 486 125 28.58 572 84.96 1 2 4 64 6
Shakib Al Hasan 2008-2010 19 19 3 597 106 37.31 723 82.57 1 4 1 56 4
Mahmudullah 2008-2010 17 14 3 377 64* 34.27 480 78.54 0 2 1 32 3
Naeem Islam 2008-2010 13 12 6 212 46* 35.33 300 70.66 0 0 1 17 4
Mushfiqur Rahim 2008-2010 18 17 0 364 76 21.41 553 65.82 0 1 0 23 3
Mohammad Ashraful 2008-2010 14 14 2 377 75 31.41 578 65.22 0 3 1 30 1
Imrul Kayes 2008-2010 12 12 0 388 70 32.33 614 63.19 0 3 0 36 4
Junaid Siddique 2008-2010 11 11 0 196 85 17.81 347 56.48 0 1 2 16 0
Raqibul Hasan 2008-2010 15 15 2 387 89 29.76 712 54.35 0 2 1 22 1
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Here is Ashraful's stats on home grounds against top 7, in DW era and JS era.


Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
DW Era
2004-2007 13
13 0
272
64
20.92 368
73.92 0
2 0
29
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JS Era
2008-2010 14 14 2 377 75 31.41 578 65.22 0 3 1 30 1

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As you can see, his average has been raised significantly under JS, though his SR has fallen. But in general, he can't be considered a destructive batsman in mold of Pathan or Afridi.
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^Good find Eshen bhai. Just curious what would your squad be if you decide to put Riyad at #7?
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^^ You mean the playing XI?

To be honest, I am having a hard time to make up my mind, so don't be surprised if I change my team couple of weeks later. Right now, this looks like a good team to me, for a traditional Mirpur or Chittagong wicket.

Tamim (auto choice)
Imrul (sheet anchor)
Shahriar (better fit for low-slow wickets than Zunaed is)
Mushfiq (has to fit him somewhere)
Shakib (auto choice)
Naeem (need him for his bowling, may be he will do better with bat if given a proper batting position)
Mahmudullah (looks like the best we got for #7)
Shafiul (has high potential as a late order batsman)
Abdur Razzak (auto choice)
Rubel (auto choice)
Suhrawadi (or Nazmul, in the match against India)
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i want ash for no. 7. u just cant judge someone from 3 innings.
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mismanagement of ashraful has cost us a fair bit. utlimately ash has himself to blame, but mismanagement has meant that we haven't utilized him maximally. thats pretty bad because his max isn't very high.

case in point. if ash comes back and plays at 4...regardless of whether he's successful or not, its an asanine move by the coach/captain/selections/whoever is in charge.

first he can't make the XI, struggles to get into the XV for NZ series. and then he comes in and is batting at 4??? only in Bangladesh.

a rookie or struggling player needs to spend lots of time down the order before they can move to an important position like no 4 or no 3.
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^^ You mean the playing XI?

To be honest, I am having a hard time to make up my mind, so don't be surprised if I change my team couple of weeks later. Right now, this looks like a good team to me, for a traditional Mirpur or Chittagong wicket.

Tamim (auto choice)
Imrul (sheet anchor)
Shahriar (better fit for low-slow wickets than Zunaed is)
Mushfiq (has to fit him somewhere)
Shakib (auto choice)
Naeem (need him for his bowling, may be he will do better with bat if given a proper batting position)
Mahmudullah (looks like the best we got for #7)
Shafiul (has high potential as a late order batsman)
Abdur Razzak (auto choice)
Rubel (auto choice)
Suhrawadi (or Nazmul, in the match against India)
I would go for a similar this line-up to this with the only change being Zunaid retaining his number 3 position as he has put in some good performances the past 12 months in this position. Shariar would be my first choice replacement if Zunaid (or Imrul, Naeem, Riyad) under perform in the first 3 games. But I have no problem and can see why some people would pick Shariar as first choice. Also I would have Shafiul coming in at number 8 if it is near the end of the innings so around 42+ overs, anytime before that I would choose Shuvo to come in before him.
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Mashrafi's stat looks the best fit...20+ average with a strike rate over 150... better than any of the current three we are discussing...
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^^ You mean the playing XI?

To be honest, I am having a hard time to make up my mind, so don't be surprised if I change my team couple of weeks later. Right now, this looks like a good team to me, for a traditional Mirpur or Chittagong wicket.

Tamim (auto choice)
Imrul (sheet anchor)
Shahriar (better fit for low-slow wickets than Zunaed is)
Mushfiq (has to fit him somewhere)
Shakib (auto choice)
Naeem (need him for his bowling, may be he will do better with bat if given a proper batting position)
Mahmudullah (looks like the best we got for #7)
Shafiul (has high potential as a late order batsman)
Abdur Razzak (auto choice)
Rubel (auto choice)
Suhrawadi (or Nazmul, in the match against India)
3 batsman, 4 (mini) allrounder, 2 pacer, 1 spinner, 1 wkt. Thats not how a team is made. we need at least 5 batsman, 2 allrounder, 2 pacer, 1 spinner, 1 wkt, lets start like
1) Tamim 2) Imrul 3) SN 4) Rakibul / Junaid 5) Mushfiq 6)Sakib 7)Ashraful 8) Mahmudullah / Naeem 9) Shafiul 10) Rubel 11) Razzak
If we depend on more spinner then one, then we have to cut one batsman, include another mini allrounder who can bowl well, bat a little. then no. # 7 will be that. after that if we like to play ashraful, then we have to cut the # 4 postion batsman, whether he play at # 4 or # 7, what do u guys think ??
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Average doesn't always give you the true picture IMO. Imrul might have better average than Tamim but he cant win or save matches as Tamim does. In Mahmudulla's case his average looks healthy because he stays not-out most of the times. And he pays so selfishly, doesn't take any risk at all. It is acceptable when the top order fails and we have risk of not being able to play 50 overs. But in many instances top order made a good start but Mullah and Nayeem couldn't capitalise on it. We don't need him at no 7. He is better suited at number 3/4. In his position batting with a strike rate below 90 is almost a crime. Afridi, Yousuf, Razzak may have lower average than him but they won matches for their teams.
But having said that I would prefer anyone rather than Ashraful. He will fail us regardlessly even as a waterboy. He will drop the water bottles on the ground and cause chaos.
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Dayummm Mashrafe with a strike rate of 150! We're going to miss his late order hitting. Those few extra runs could prove crucial, as they have done in 2010.
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