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Old February 20, 2011, 09:36 AM
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The first match is out of the way. We got totally outclassed by India who played like champions. Yes, the occassion got the better of our boys and some of them choked. Mental toughness is one of the most important variables in all professional sports. But I think it will only gradually come about with the consistent exposures at the highest levels...from tough bilateral series, triangulars to high-octane big tournaments like World Cups. It also varies from individual to individual. Perhaps, the matter of mental toughness dosn't immediately fall under the controllable variables.

I would like to focus here on the 'perceived' controllable variables from our part: right team selection, making the right decesion whether to bowl or bat first and Power Plays. If we get these right then the chances of winning a game increases by many folds. I believe we Team Bangladesh need to learn very quickly from our mistakes. Winning the toss and inviting a batting heavy India to bat first was a grave mistake that we have to acknowledge first. We had to realize that our main wicket taking opening bowler is sidelined through injury. That the two pacers picked for the game have very little big match experience and our best spinner -captain himself -hasn't been in the most scintillating of form of late. The other two spinners (Riyad-Naeem) picked for the game are just part-timers at best (against a team like India). Therefore, we must be man enough to admit that it was a certain suicide when we asked India to bat first. Dew isn't a HUGE factor in the end of Feb and we have witnessed that. Bowling first wasn't a good idea (for a different reason) against Canada in the warm up match and it hasn't been good against India. We might be able to get away with it against some other teams but not India. Specially, when we have lost a warm up game (Pakistan) badly chasing a few days ago. We need to learn to assess/analyze professionally, make adjustments according to new situations and learn how not to follow the script to the letter.

I am harping on on the last game for many reasons. We could learn a lot from India the way they batted, bowled and fielded. India didn't show up at Sher-e-Bangla to PLAY; they came here to do a job. And a job they did! Whatever gameplan India might have had, they couldn't have executed it any better. They simply batted us out of the game which even allowed an expensive spell from a Sreeshant. The batting of Sehwag and Kohli and their application, focus and single mindedness should be analyzed and studied by our batsmen. Kohli is the player to watch in this tournament and, surely, one of the future Indian greats.

Bangladesh need to do an India like job on the Irish. We need to get our playing eleven right and can ill afford to have both Riyad and Naeem in the team. I have said it many times before and will say it again- Naeem his hopelessly out of form with the bat and his off-spinners not the worth of a place in the playing XI. Any of Shuvo, Ashraful or Nafees would serve the team better. We need to gamble with Ashraful and give him (and others) two games at a time. Ashraful is one of the very few big match players we have. If Junaid doesn't deliver big in the next game then should be replaced by SN.

And, now, most importantly - the Power Play. We need to throw away the 'Team Rules' book when it comes to PP. Taking PP at the scripted 45th over is the most IDIOTIC of all things. Even after four years of coaching if our Head Coach hasn't prepared our boys to take advantage of the last batting PP then, simply, he isn't doing his job. I would NEVER like to see again PP is being taken when no.9..10 and Jack to follow. Take it when there are two set specialist bats are in the middle around 30 - 40 overs. Think positively about scoring extra PP runs and not losing wickets. Again, think POSITIVE! AND, if there is a bloody batting collapse (PP) then adjust your batting order and send in a batter who can dig his heals deep. Do not lose an opportunity for fears of failing. Lets do these right and see how far we can go.

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Old February 20, 2011, 09:42 AM
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Old February 20, 2011, 11:16 AM
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Very much in agreement with Bancricfan here. You sum it up beautifully. We must adjust and be flexible in our approach from here and on. A few things I would like to add to go with your analysis. I am increasingly finding this PP situation very frustrating to deal with. As it stands, we have no player capable of taking advantage of batting PP as the current team is constructed. Forget about any power hitting skills coming from the likes of Riyad, Naeem, Mushy an co- the usual guys who are there when we take the PP on the 45th. Those guys dont have that skill and its unfair to expect them to do so. If you play Dravid at no.7, hypothetically, and expect him to bludgeon the ball around in the 45th over, I think he will be failure as well. Not saying that our trio are comparable to Dravid, but, I think you understand what I am trying to say here. Lets say we stick to our plan of PP @ 45 th ( total moronic idea ), then at least play Ash at no.6, even though he doesn't do much these days, but still I would rather have him bat for the last six-seven overs than the combination of the other trio. What do we have to lose? Nothing. They are not doing the job anyway. At least, this Ash has sparked in big game situations before. I will take a 20 ball 30 over anything we have to show for now.

Since we don't have any power below no.5 in the current squad, my theory to counter the 45-50 over PP is to take it take on the 34th with the new ball ( most teams do that ), and play batsmen who has the experience of playing the new ball ( openers and no.3 batsman ). They are used to playing cricket shots for boundaries with new ball by piercing the gap. We don't have typical no.6-no.7 batsmen for one dayers in our squad. So, we have to deal with what we have in the squad. Take the PP around 34th-35th. Hopefully Sakib is still at one end. Bring in either Nafis ( who has opened or played no.3 with new ball ), or Ash ( who also played at no.3 ) and let them play as if they are opening or coming one down with the approach and mentality of that position.

I can live with Riyad-Naeem gone from the team. Riyad is good test prospect who needs time to settle in and bat. Its unfair to play him at no.7 in ODI's. Naeem just doesn't offer anything.

Next two games ( Ire and WI ) will decide our WC and we must re-adjust. Ireland is one tricky opponent and Siddons public comment about WI being below us in ranking, thus we should be able to beat them was a complete garbage moment that does nothing but give them bulletin board material. Ireland is up next and we need the added specialist spinner in Shuvo. Here will be my team for them and WI :
1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Zunaid
4. Mushy ( I guess we have to play him )
5. Sakib
6. Nafis
7. Ash
8. Shuvo
9. Raj
10 Shafiul ( guy will bounce back )
11 Rubel.
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Old February 20, 2011, 11:36 AM
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Very much in agreement with Bancricfan here. You sum it up beautifully. We must adjust and be flexible in our approach from here and on. A few things I would like to add to go with your analysis. I am increasingly finding this PP situation very frustrating to deal with. As it stands, we have no player capable of taking advantage of batting PP as the current team is constructed. Forget about any power hitting skills coming from the likes of Riyad, Naeem, Mushy an co- the usual guys who are there when we take the PP on the 45th. Those guys dont have that skill and its unfair to expect them to do so. If you play Dravid at no.7, hypothetically, and expect him to bludgeon the ball around in the 45th over, I think he will be failure as well. Not saying that our trio are comparable to Dravid, but, I think you understand what I am trying to say here. Lets say we stick to our plan of PP @ 45 th ( total moronic idea ), then at least play Ash at no.6, even though he doesn't do much these days, but still I would rather have him bat for the last six-seven overs than the combination of the other trio. What do we have to lose? Nothing. They are not doing the job anyway. At least, this Ash has sparked in big game situations before. I will take a 20 ball 30 over anything we have to show for now.

Since we don't have any power below no.5 in the current squad, my theory to counter the 45-50 over PP is to take it take on the 34th with the new ball ( most teams do that ), and play batsmen who has the experience of playing the new ball ( openers and no.3 batsman ). They are used to playing cricket shots for boundaries with new ball by piercing the gap. We don't have typical no.6-no.7 batsmen for one dayers in our squad. So, we have to deal with what we have in the squad. Take the PP around 34th-35th. Hopefully Sakib is still at one end. Bring in either Nafis ( who has opened or played no.3 with new ball ), or Ash ( who also played at no.3 ) and let them play as if they are opening or coming one down with the approach and mentality of that position.

I can live with Riyad-Naeem gone from the team. Riyad is good test prospect who needs time to settle in and bat. Its unfair to play him at no.7 in ODI's. Naeem just doesn't offer anything.

Next two games ( Ire and WI ) will decide our WC and we must re-adjust. Ireland is one tricky opponent and Siddons public comment about WI being below us in ranking, thus we should be able to beat them was a complete garbage moment that does nothing but give them bulletin board material. Ireland is up next and we need the added specialist spinner in Shuvo. Here will be my team for them and WI :
1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Zunaid
4. Mushy ( I guess we have to play him )
5. Sakib
6. Nafis
7. Ash
8. Shuvo
9. Raj
10 Shafiul ( guy will bounce back )
11 Rubel.
I like this lineup. We have 5 bowlers who can all bowl their overs, instead of rely-ing on not so good part-timers who bowl bad, and bat even worse.
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Old February 20, 2011, 11:54 AM
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But why do you want to kick Junaid out? He is been having a very good form for a while.
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Very much in agreement with Bancricfan here. You sum it up beautifully. We must adjust and be flexible in our approach from here and on. A few things I would like to add to go with your analysis. I am increasingly finding this PP situation very frustrating to deal with. As it stands, we have no player capable of taking advantage of batting PP as the current team is constructed. Forget about any power hitting skills coming from the likes of Riyad, Naeem, Mushy an co- the usual guys who are there when we take the PP on the 45th. Those guys dont have that skill and its unfair to expect them to do so. If you play Dravid at no.7, hypothetically, and expect him to bludgeon the ball around in the 45th over, I think he will be failure as well. Not saying that our trio are comparable to Dravid, but, I think you understand what I am trying to say here. Lets say we stick to our plan of PP @ 45 th ( total moronic idea ), then at least play Ash at no.6, even though he doesn't do much these days, but still I would rather have him bat for the last six-seven overs than the combination of the other trio. What do we have to lose? Nothing. They are not doing the job anyway. At least, this Ash has sparked in big game situations before. I will take a 20 ball 30 over anything we have to show for now.

Since we don't have any power below no.5 in the current squad, my theory to counter the 45-50 over PP is to take it take on the 34th with the new ball ( most teams do that ), and play batsmen who has the experience of playing the new ball ( openers and no.3 batsman ). They are used to playing cricket shots for boundaries with new ball by piercing the gap. We don't have typical no.6-no.7 batsmen for one dayers in our squad. So, we have to deal with what we have in the squad. Take the PP around 34th-35th. Hopefully Sakib is still at one end. Bring in either Nafis ( who has opened or played no.3 with new ball ), or Ash ( who also played at no.3 ) and let them play as if they are opening or coming one down with the approach and mentality of that position.

I can live with Riyad-Naeem gone from the team. Riyad is good test prospect who needs time to settle in and bat. Its unfair to play him at no.7 in ODI's. Naeem just doesn't offer anything.

Next two games ( Ire and WI ) will decide our WC and we must re-adjust. Ireland is one tricky opponent and Siddons public comment about WI being below us in ranking, thus we should be able to beat them was a complete garbage moment that does nothing but give them bulletin board material. Ireland is up next and we need the added specialist spinner in Shuvo. Here will be my team for them and WI :
1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Zunaid
4. Mushy ( I guess we have to play him )
5. Sakib
6. Nafis
7. Ash
8. Shuvo
9. Raj
10 Shafiul ( guy will bounce back )
11 Rubel.


^^ No way Ash, He brings in some sort of plague to the team. Rock is currently doing a good job, y drop him?
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I can live with Riyad-Naeem gone from the team. Riyad is good test prospect who needs time to settle in and bat. Its unfair to play him at no.7 in ODI's. Naeem just doesn't offer anything.

Next two games ( Ire and WI ) will decide our WC and we must re-adjust. Ireland is one tricky opponent and Siddons public comment about WI being below us in ranking, thus we should be able to beat them was a complete garbage moment that does nothing but give them bulletin board material. Ireland is up next and we need the added specialist spinner in Shuvo. Here will be my team for them and WI :
For the Irish game I will just make one change. Shuvo for Naeem. From now on Shuvo should be an automatic choice for rest of the tournament. Whether intentionally or not, I'm glad the think tank didn't play him against India. Shuvo is an excellent bowler, a brilliant fielder and a capable bat. Tailor-made for ODI. Rock is in form and an excellent fielder so he stays. Riyad stays in as an Offie and his batting will be a bonus. Riyad, actually, is a much better bat then Naeem.

We can consider Ash and SN after the Ireland game. Thanks to our management/SidVision we don't have a much needed settled side for the World Cup. The idea of having two out of form part-time "allrounders" in the squad was mind-boggling. Therefore, we need to make amends as we go along.
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But why do you want to kick Junaid out? He is been having a very good form for a while.
Lol...nobody want to do it. Junaid needs to score a century or a few scores of 70s or 80s. Number 3 is a very important position in cricket and a few cameos of 30s and 40s isn't just enough. He must deliver in the next match or two. Otherwise, Nafees gets in.
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Liked Beamer's line up. Perfectly positioned the players. Instead of two part-timer we can have 5 specialist and 2 part-timer, Ash and big Z.
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I am harping on on the last game for many reasons. We could learn a lot from India the way they batted, bowled and fielded. India didn't show up at Sher-e-Bangla to PLAY; they came here to do a job. And a job they did! Whatever gameplan India might have had, they couldn't have executed it any better. They simply batted us out of the game which even allowed an expensive spell from a Sreeshant. The batting of Sehwag and Kohli and their application, focus and single mindedness should be analyzed and studied by our batsmen. Kohli is the player to watch in this tournament and, surely, one of the future Indian greats.

Bangladesh need to do an India like job on the Irish. We need to get our playing eleven right and can ill afford to have both Riyad and Naeem in the team. I have said it many times before and will say it again- Naeem his hopelessly out of form with the bat and his off-spinners not the worth of a place in the playing XI. Any of Shuvo, Ashraful or Nafees would serve the team better. We need to gamble with Ashraful and give him (and others) two games at a time. Ashraful is one of the very few big match players we have. If Junaid doesn't deliver big in the next game then should be replaced by SN.

And, now, most importantly - the Power Play. We need to throw away the 'Team Rules' book when it comes to PP. Taking PP at the scripted 45th over is the most IDIOTIC of all things. Even after four years of coaching if our Head Coach hasn't prepared our boys to take advantage of the last batting PP then, simply, he isn't doing his job. I would NEVER like to see again PP is being taken when no.9..10 and Jack to follow. Take it when there are two set specialist bats are in the middle around 30 - 40 overs


Rightly so, but what will the captain and selection do. I feel that Sakib is stubborn and tend to make mistakes. He has to win the game against Ireland and the Neds and should win against WI and England. If they lose against Ireland, they are out of the QF.
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Very much in agreement with Bancricfan here. You sum it up beautifully. We must adjust and be flexible in our approach from here and on. A few things I would like to add to go with your analysis. I am increasingly finding this PP situation very frustrating to deal with. As it stands, we have no player capable of taking advantage of batting PP as the current team is constructed. Forget about any power hitting skills coming from the likes of Riyad, Naeem, Mushy an co- the usual guys who are there when we take the PP on the 45th. Those guys dont have that skill and its unfair to expect them to do so. If you play Dravid at no.7, hypothetically, and expect him to bludgeon the ball around in the 45th over, I think he will be failure as well. Not saying that our trio are comparable to Dravid, but, I think you understand what I am trying to say here. Lets say we stick to our plan of PP @ 45 th ( total moronic idea ), then at least play Ash at no.6, even though he doesn't do much these days, but still I would rather have him bat for the last six-seven overs than the combination of the other trio. What do we have to lose? Nothing. They are not doing the job anyway. At least, this Ash has sparked in big game situations before. I will take a 20 ball 30 over anything we have to show for now.

Since we don't have any power below no.5 in the current squad, my theory to counter the 45-50 over PP is to take it take on the 34th with the new ball ( most teams do that ), and play batsmen who has the experience of playing the new ball ( openers and no.3 batsman ). They are used to playing cricket shots for boundaries with new ball by piercing the gap. We don't have typical no.6-no.7 batsmen for one dayers in our squad. So, we have to deal with what we have in the squad. Take the PP around 34th-35th. Hopefully Sakib is still at one end. Bring in either Nafis ( who has opened or played no.3 with new ball ), or Ash ( who also played at no.3 ) and let them play as if they are opening or coming one down with the approach and mentality of that position.

I can live with Riyad-Naeem gone from the team. Riyad is good test prospect who needs time to settle in and bat. Its unfair to play him at no.7 in ODI's. Naeem just doesn't offer anything.

Next two games ( Ire and WI ) will decide our WC and we must re-adjust. Ireland is one tricky opponent and Siddons public comment about WI being below us in ranking, thus we should be able to beat them was a complete garbage moment that does nothing but give them bulletin board material. Ireland is up next and we need the added specialist spinner in Shuvo. Here will be my team for them and WI :
1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Zunaid
4. Mushy ( I guess we have to play him )
5. Sakib
6. Nafis
7. Ash
8. Shuvo
9. Raj
10 Shafiul ( guy will bounce back )
11 Rubel.
99.9% agree with what you are saying. however, whatever XI we picked, we need to stick with it. we can't go around Ashraful-ing everyone ie dumping them after just one failure. Riyad and Naeem should get one more final chance to mess up. Yes I know, Riyad/Naeem have now failed in about 20 consecutive innings, but we need to be consistent in our selection and team issues.

Mushy, I don't know why anyone can criticize him. He is the perfect anchor for our top order. And if the other guys bat around him, then even with him scoring at a SR of 65 we can post solid totals in the 275-300 range. Tamim has to fire, Shakib has to fire, and if the new, de-sissified duo of Junaid/Imrul can score at close to a run ball as they each have in the last two games, then there is no reason we can't score 300 against top sides every now and then.

Our bowling, Shafiul messed it up (but i have full faith in the lad)...had he bowled tighter the opening spell, i can guarantee that Shakib, Razzak would have taken a lighter beaten as well. Grand total of 30-50 runs would have saved, meaning we could have been chasing 320-330...which given the pitch and how we did bat at 80% of our ability, we could have theoretically won the game. Wishful thinking? Sure. But still possible. So overall, bowling I won't blame anyone. Crap happens.

Batting, we batted rather well. I would have loved to see a little more intent from Junaid and Tamim, and wished Imrul could have lasted a few more overs without slowing down. But oh well.

What I cannot fathom, and what I cannot accept is Shakib's cowardice and not taking the PP when he was set with Tamim, and then the shot he played which totally contradicted his decision to not take the powerplay.

We may not have scored 320-330, but we didn't give ourselves the chance to do that. We not only lost the actual game, but lost the game within the game. From the position we were in 261-6 after 44.3 overs...even Kenya would have scored 300. I blame Shakib most of all for this callous and self-defeating decision, and it totally belies the strength of character we know that he is.

Totally agree about Ashraful, a first ball duck will hardly dent our overall RR...as opposed to the knife to heart that our RR sufffers every time Naeem/Riyad swing and miss and/or leave balls through to keeper during the batting PP.

I think Nafees should come in for one of them at 6, and Ash in at 7.

Shuvo honestly is no better with bat than Naeem/Riyad, and his bowling would have been eaten up, chewed, and pooped out by Sehwag and Kohli if he had bowled. But I think he can be a handful to every other team in the tourney barring India, SL, Pak.
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Old February 20, 2011, 05:26 PM
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btw Beamer...if Ash could give 20 ball 30, he should win an award. 20 ball 30 is a dream when riyad/naeem have given us 14 ball 8s for aproximately 20 consecutive innings dating back to the NZ tour of early 2010.
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Al, now it is very difficult for Ash to give a 20 ball 30. It is more likely that he will give a 5 ball 3 or 15 ball 5. He has forgotten to play international cricket. Haven't seen 20 ball 30 for ages.
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Zunaed can seriously be explored as an option at number 6 to find a solution to the PP crisis. That way SN can come in at 3.

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^^ No way Ash, He brings in some sort of plague to the team. Rock is currently doing a good job, y drop him?
I agree,no Ash pls & Rock btted well vs Ind & Pak(Wup)
overall this will be the strongest bttng team ever for BD.
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Very much agreed with Beamer and BanCricFan. You guys summed it pretty well. Our team management must come up with a sharp gameplan and have the right team selection. Beamer came up with the right one I beleive, and they should pick the same. Coaches should do their due dilligence rather than relying on the captain to make right decisons on the field. Coaches, dont just sit there and watch the game. Listen to the live commentary since those guys are turing out to be better decision makers and make "adjustment" as needed and as game situation demands...during the match. I am getting incresingly frustrated with our head coach...when are we going to have a head coach who would want to win at any cost and not scared of losing wickets?
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Al, now it is very difficult for Ash to give a 20 ball 30. It is more likely that he will give a 5 ball 3 or 15 ball 5. He has forgotten to play international cricket. Haven't seen 20 ball 30 for ages.
True. But at least he gives us a chance. Riyad and Nayeem and no match winners and Ash/Nafees are way better batsmen (at least they are pure batsmen) than these 2 bits and pieces players who only plays for their avg, regardless of the game situation. Ideally I would like to see players like Milon and Shabbir, but since they are not there, I would go with Ash/Nafees over these two useless players.

I am going with Beamers team.
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Old February 20, 2011, 06:09 PM
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I dont think we should be "sticking" with players who failed. This is a WC and there is no mercy for fauilures. You fail, you are out. You pick players based on opposition, not by so called "winning combination". You cant have same team for IND and IRE.
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Al, now it is very difficult for Ash to give a 20 ball 30. It is more likely that he will give a 5 ball 3 or 15 ball 5. He has forgotten to play international cricket. Haven't seen 20 ball 30 for ages.
given that BD doesn't seem to have anyone who can muscle it at the slog overs, I would still give him a chance against the minnows. a chance against test teams comes only if he performs.
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Very much in agreement with Bancricfan here. You sum it up beautifully. We must adjust and be flexible in our approach from here and on. A few things I would like to add to go with your analysis. I am increasingly finding this PP situation very frustrating to deal with. As it stands, we have no player capable of taking advantage of batting PP as the current team is constructed. Forget about any power hitting skills coming from the likes of Riyad, Naeem, Mushy an co- the usual guys who are there when we take the PP on the 45th. Those guys dont have that skill and its unfair to expect them to do so. If you play Dravid at no.7, hypothetically, and expect him to bludgeon the ball around in the 45th over, I think he will be failure as well. Not saying that our trio are comparable to Dravid, but, I think you understand what I am trying to say here. Lets say we stick to our plan of PP @ 45 th ( total moronic idea ), then at least play Ash at no.6, even though he doesn't do much these days, but still I would rather have him bat for the last six-seven overs than the combination of the other trio. What do we have to lose? Nothing. They are not doing the job anyway. At least, this Ash has sparked in big game situations before. I will take a 20 ball 30 over anything we have to show for now.

Since we don't have any power below no.5 in the current squad, my theory to counter the 45-50 over PP is to take it take on the 34th with the new ball ( most teams do that ), and play batsmen who has the experience of playing the new ball ( openers and no.3 batsman ). They are used to playing cricket shots for boundaries with new ball by piercing the gap. We don't have typical no.6-no.7 batsmen for one dayers in our squad. So, we have to deal with what we have in the squad. Take the PP around 34th-35th. Hopefully Sakib is still at one end. Bring in either Nafis ( who has opened or played no.3 with new ball ), or Ash ( who also played at no.3 ) and let them play as if they are opening or coming one down with the approach and mentality of that position.

I can live with Riyad-Naeem gone from the team. Riyad is good test prospect who needs time to settle in and bat. Its unfair to play him at no.7 in ODI's. Naeem just doesn't offer anything.

Next two games ( Ire and WI ) will decide our WC and we must re-adjust. Ireland is one tricky opponent and Siddons public comment about WI being below us in ranking, thus we should be able to beat them was a complete garbage moment that does nothing but give them bulletin board material. Ireland is up next and we need the added specialist spinner in Shuvo. Here will be my team for them and WI :
1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Zunaid
4. Mushy ( I guess we have to play him )
5. Sakib
6. Nafis
7. Ash
8. Shuvo
9. Raj
10 Shafiul ( guy will bounce back )
11 Rubel.
bro i am 100% agree with you. Reason is
1.We don't need any useless allrounder like mahmudullah and nayee. Bcz they are batting form is totally crap now.And even their bowling is not impressive.
2.I know ashraful is not the batsman who can be relieable but at lower order he could be better than nayeem and mahmudullah.Even ashraful could be a effective part time bowler as well. ** why not our coach trained ashraful as a bowler...........he could be a option.
3.naffes is on good form.I think it could be wise decision to give him chancs.If it's does not work, we still have option to bring back mahmudullah or nayeem.
4.We are always targetting ashraful( i am not ash fan) but did any one noticed that nayeem and mahmudullah's perfermance is not satisfactory.
I am not a cricket specialist.......so if i am wrong once again sorry to you guys.
I don't know why team management are not using this options.
we have 15 players and we should choose the best option out of it.
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Al, now it is very difficult for Ash to give a 20 ball 30. It is more likely that he will give a 5 ball 3 or 15 ball 5. He has forgotten to play international cricket. Haven't seen 20 ball 30 for ages.
yet, he was still selected as one of the best XV to represent Bangladesh in the world cup
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i think Shahriar nafees too can be a good option in powerplays. as he opens the innings he is quite capable of playing aggressive shots over the top or in the gaps in the first 10 overs of mandatory powerplays. so it wont be a problem got him to adapt at late overs in poition six.6

do you remember SL used to play mahanama at 6 in the 96 WC ??? nafees can do a similar job in the lower order if he cant get a spot in the top.
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Al, now it is very difficult for Ash to give a 20 ball 30. It is more likely that he will give a 5 ball 3 or 15 ball 5. He has forgotten to play international cricket. Haven't seen 20 ball 30 for ages.


With his current form, either he would give us 3 ball 4 run or a 30 ball 12 run.

If we want a 20 ball 30, we should include one legged Mashrafee instead. He could even give better econ rate with his spin bowling. Never under estimate the Mashrafee the spinner.
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Al- Not criticizing Rahim at all. Actually, no.4 is the only position for him to play in a one day team, as he is more suited for the pivot role as opposed to at no.6 or no.7, where you really don't have much time to settle in. He is more of a classic test batsman/wkt suited for no.6 and there is no question that he is the best in the country for tests. But, if I had a better wktkeeper/batsman for one dayers who can either play that classic role of coming down at no.6 or play at the top three position, then Rahim will not be automatic in my team. So, for lack of better options, he has to play and play at no.4. When he moved to no.4, I was hoping that finally we have realized that we need some power at no.6, thus the pre-emptive move up to no.4 for Rahim, but it is a self defeating purpose if we continue to fill that vacancy with likes of Rock and Riyad at no.6, players who are very much in the mold of Rahim. If Rahim was a flat tire at no.6, Riyad and Rock are just spares there , which can not and will not perform in the long run when the rubber meets the road. So, we identified the problem, but we are also trying to solve a problem with other problems. It will not work. But, the squad is poor one, and we don't have options in it to pick players who excel in batting lower down the order. So, we are left with no choice but to tinker with players/positions who are available.

That's why I proposed the PP ensuing with the second new ball ( 34 th -35 th ) and basically had to pick Ash and Nafis simply because they are available, and crucially, they have more experience with new ball and field restriction that Naeem, Riyad and Rock. I very much wanted the new generation of Riyad and co to succeed, but given whats at stake, they need to be removed. And, No, the two game chance don't apply. Ireland game is the WC. We lose, and we are basically out, so no margin of error. Given what we have in the squad, our only options are having Naifs and Ash play at no.6 and no.7, with the PP coming immediately with the second new ball. Once again, their mind set should be as if they are opening an innings, rather than slogging mentality, and they can slog if they can stick around till the end. Now, the Riyad-Naeem combo can't slog or can't bat like opener-/no.3.

One huge benefit of taking the PP early in the 34 th as opposed to 45th ( which we have been doing )is that it will also force the opposition to bring in their best pacers/bowlers early. Now a days they easily use their part timers and someone who is having a bad day in the middle overs. They know they can save the best for the last five overs when we take our PP. They basically offer their best and we offer our worst players for field restrictions ! Makes no sense to me.

I am sticking with that team for the remainder of the WC. I think that gives us the best chance from THIS SQUAD. Of course, Shuvo and Nazmul can be swapped depending on the pitch and opposition.
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