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Response to Ian Pont: Batting Averages
Recently, our bowling national bowling Coach Mr. Ian Pont posted a message requesting a table summarizing the batting averages of the batsmen in the current world cup squad. To follow up with his request, I came up with a comprehensive batting statistics of our world cup squad.
I performed all calculations based on the following four screening: - All Ground-Test Playing: This includes all ODI innings played in all home, away and neutral grounds against all current test playing nations (excluding Zimbabwe)
- Home-Test Playing: This includes all ODI innings played in home grounds against all current test playing nations (excluding Zimbabwe)
- Away & Neutral-Test Playing: This includes all ODI innings played in away and neutral grounds against all current test playing nations (excluding Zimbabwe)
- Career-All Teams: This includes all ODI innings played in all home, away and neutral grounds against all test playing and associate nations.
Under each of the above four screening, the player rankings are based on two statistical bases: - (a) Average: This ranking measure is calculated using batting averages
- (b) AveXStr: This combo ranking is calculated by multiplying the batting average with batting strike rate. This combination or intersection measure is more robust in a sense that it accounts for both batting averages and strike rates of each player.
Ranking: All Ground-Test Playing
The following is the ranking of our batsmen in the current world cup squad based on their batting averages in all home, away and neutral grounds against all current test playing nations (excluding Zimbabwe)
Ranking: All Ground by Average
| All Ground-Test Playing
| Player
| Innings
| Ave
| SR
| AveXStr
| Imrul Kayes
| 24
| 32.50
| 66.1
| 2148
| Shakib Al Hasan
| 59
| 29.00
| 74.14
| 2150
| Mahmudullah Ryad
| 38
| 27.80
| 66.34
| 1844
| Tamim Iqbal
| 59
| 27.72
| 80.11
| 2221
| Naeem Islam
| 23
| 26.92
| 65.33
| 1759
| Rakibul Hasan
| 29
| 26.11
| 57.15
| 1492
| Junaid Siddique
| 29
| 23.58
| 65.45
| 1543
| Mohammad Ashraful
| 103
| 21.94
| 68.56
| 1504
| Mushfiqur Rahim
| 49
| 20.31
| 62.69
| 1273
| Shahriar Nafees
| 33
| 18.21
| 65.18
| 1187
| Suhrawady Shuvo
| 5
| 10.00
| 71.42
| 714
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The following is the ranking of our batsmen in the current world cup squad based on the intersection of their batting averages and strike rates in all home, away and neutral grounds against all current test playing nations (excluding Zimbabwe)
Ranking: All Ground by AveXStr
| All Ground-Test Playing
| Player
| Innings
| Ave
| SR
| AveXStr
| Tamim Iqbal
| 59
| 27.72
| 80.11
| 2221
| Shakib Al Hasan
| 59
| 29.00
| 74.14
| 2150
| Imrul Kayes
| 24
| 32.50
| 66.1
| 2148
| Mahmudullah Ryad
| 38
| 27.80
| 66.34
| 1844
| Naeem Islam
| 23
| 26.92
| 65.33
| 1759
| Junaid Siddique
| 29
| 23.58
| 65.45
| 1543
| Mohammad Ashraful
| 103
| 21.94
| 68.56
| 1504
| Rakibul Hasan
| 29
| 26.11
| 57.15
| 1492
| Mushfiqur Rahim
| 49
| 20.31
| 62.69
| 1273
| Shahriar Nafees
| 33
| 18.21
| 65.18
| 1187
| Suhrawady Shuvo
| 5
| 10.00
| 71.42
| 714
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Ranking: Home-Test Playing
The following is the ranking of our batsmen in the current world cup squad based on their batting averages in home grounds against all current test playing nations (excluding Zimbabwe)
Ranking: Home by Average
| Home-Test Playing
| Player
| Innings
| Ave
| SR
| AveXStr
| Shakib Al Hasan
| 22
| 37.21
| 83.27
| 3098
| Imrul Kayes
| 13
| 32.46
| 65.62
| 2130
| Rakibul Hasan
| 16
| 31.92
| 56.08
| 1790
| Mahmudullah Ryad
| 15
| 31.91
| 78.80
| 2515
| Naeem Islam
| 13
| 30.57
| 69.48
| 2124
| Tamim Iqbal
| 20
| 30.40
| 84.09
| 2556
| Mohammad Ashraful
| 34
| 25.00
| 66.94
| 1674
| Mushfiqur Rahim
| 20
| 22.36
| 67.78
| 1516
| Junaid Siddique
| 12
| 19.41
| 58.39
| 1133
| Shahriar Nafees
| 15
| 15.00
| 71.88
| 1078
| Suhrawady Shuvo
| 4
| 12.00
| 69.23
| 831
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The following is the ranking of our batsmen in the current world cup squad based on the intersection of their batting averages and strike rates in home grounds against all current test playing nations (excluding Zimbabwe)
Ranking: Home by AveXStr
| Home-Test Playing
| Player
| Innings
| Ave
| SR
| AveXStr
| Shakib Al Hasan
| 22
| 37.21
| 83.27
| 3098
| Tamim Iqbal
| 20
| 30.40
| 84.09
| 2556
| Mahmudullah Ryad
| 15
| 31.91
| 78.80
| 2515
| Imrul Kayes
| 13
| 32.46
| 65.62
| 2130
| Naeem Islam
| 13
| 30.57
| 69.48
| 2124
| Rakibul Hasan
| 16
| 31.92
| 56.08
| 1790
| Mohammad Ashraful
| 34
| 25.00
| 66.94
| 1674
| Mushfiqur Rahim
| 20
| 22.36
| 67.78
| 1516
| Junaid Siddique
| 12
| 19.41
| 58.39
| 1133
| Shahriar Nafees
| 15
| 15.00
| 71.88
| 1078
| Suhrawady Shuvo
| 4
| 12.00
| 69.23
| 831
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Ranking: Away & Neutral-Test Playing
The following is the ranking of our batsmen in the current world cup squad based on their batting averages in all away and neutral grounds against all current test playing nations (excluding Zimbabwe)
Ranking: Away&Neutral by Average
| Away&Neutral-Test Playing
| Player
| Innings
| Ave
| SR
| AveXStr
| Imrul Kayes
| 11
| 32.54
| 66.66
| 2169
| Junaid Siddique
| 17
| 26.52
| 69.81
| 1851
| Tamim Iqbal
| 39
| 26.35
| 77.93
| 2053
| Mahmudullah Ryad
| 23
| 25.05
| 58.49
| 1465
| Shakib Al Hasan
| 37
| 24.54
| 68.01
| 1669
| Naeem Islam
| 10
| 23.28
| 60.59
| 1411
| Shahriar Nafees
| 18
| 20.88
| 61.74
| 1289
| Mohammad Ashraful
| 69
| 20.46
| 69.56
| 1423
| Rakibul Hasan
| 13
| 20.30
| 58.92
| 1196
| Mushfiqur Rahim
| 29
| 18.76
| 58.69
| 1101
| Suhrawady Shuvo
| 1
| 4.00
| 100.00
| 400
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The following is the ranking of our batsmen in the current world cup squad based on the intersection of their batting averages and strike rates in all away and neutral grounds against all current test playing nations (excluding Zimbabwe)
Ranking: Away&Neutral by AveXStr
| Away&Neutral-Test Playing
| Player
| Innings
| Ave
| SR
| AveXStr
| Imrul Kayes
| 11
| 32.54
| 66.66
| 2169
| Tamim Iqbal
| 39
| 26.35
| 77.93
| 2053
| Junaid Siddique
| 17
| 26.52
| 69.81
| 1851
| Shakib Al Hasan
| 37
| 24.54
| 68.01
| 1669
| Mahmudullah Ryad
| 23
| 25.05
| 58.49
| 1465
| Mohammad Ashraful
| 69
| 20.46
| 69.56
| 1423
| Naeem Islam
| 10
| 23.28
| 60.59
| 1411
| Shahriar Nafees
| 18
| 20.88
| 61.74
| 1289
| Rakibul Hasan
| 13
| 20.30
| 58.92
| 1196
| Mushfiqur Rahim
| 29
| 18.76
| 58.69
| 1101
| Suhrawady Shuvo
| 1
| 4.00
| 100.00
| 400
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Ranking: Career-All teams
The following is the ranking of our batsmen in the current world cup squad based on their batting averages in all home, away and neutral grounds against all test playing and associate teams.
Ranking: Career by Average
| Career-All Teams
| Player
| Innings
| Ave
| SR
| AveXStr
| Shakib Al Hasan
| 100
| 35.00
| 77.98
| 2729
| Shahriar Nafees
| 64
| 33.49
| 70.82
| 2372
| Tamim Iqbal
| 91
| 30.26
| 79.57
| 2408
| Rakibul Hasan
| 50
| 30.16
| 62.08
| 1872
| Imrul Kayes
| 32
| 29.37
| 66.71
| 1959
| Mahmudullah Ryad
| 52
| 28.31
| 67.54
| 1912
| Naeem Islam
| 35
| 27.38
| 65.26
| 1787
| Junaid Siddique
| 47
| 23.82
| 67.86
| 1616
| Mushfiqur Rahim
| 77
| 23.76
| 64.94
| 1543
| Mohammad Ashraful
| 158
| 23.17
| 70.72
| 1639
| Suhrawady Shuvo
| 7
| 9.83
| 71.08
| 699
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The following is the ranking of our batsmen in the current world cup squad based on the intersection of their batting averages and strike rates in all home, away and neutral grounds against all test playing and associate teams.
Ranking: Career by AveXStr
| Career-All Teams
| Player
| Innings
| Ave
| SR
| AveXStr
| Shakib Al Hasan
| 100
| 35
| 77.98
| 2729
| Tamim Iqbal
| 91
| 30.26
| 79.57
| 2408
| Shahriar Nafees
| 64
| 33.49
| 70.82
| 2372
| Imrul Kayes
| 32
| 29.37
| 66.71
| 1959
| Mahmudullah Ryad
| 52
| 28.31
| 67.54
| 1912
| Rakibul Hasan
| 50
| 30.16
| 62.08
| 1872
| Naeem Islam
| 35
| 27.38
| 65.26
| 1787
| Mohammad Ashraful
| 158
| 23.17
| 70.72
| 1639
| Junaid Siddique
| 47
| 23.82
| 67.86
| 1616
| Mushfiqur Rahim
| 77
| 23.76
| 64.94
| 1543
| Suhrawady Shuvo
| 7
| 9.83
| 71.08
| 699
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Summary Ranking by Averages:
If we summarize all rankings based on averages in using all four screenings, we have the following summary ranking table. To generate the summary ranking, we first separately ranked all players based on their batting averages according to (1) all grounds, (2) home ground, (3) away and neutral grounds and (4) career records screenings. Then all these four rankings are multiplied to generate an overall ranking measure.
Ranking Summary by Averages
| Ranking
| Player
| All-Ave
| Home-Ave
| A&N-Ave
| Career-Ave
| Rank-Ave
| 1
| Shakib Al Hasan
| 2
| 1
| 5
| 1
| 10
| 2
| Imrul Kayes
| 1
| 2
| 1
| 5
| 10
| 3
| Tamim Iqbal
| 4
| 6
| 3
| 3
| 216
| 4
| Mahmudullah Ryad
| 3
| 4
| 4
| 6
| 288
| 5
| Rakibul Hasan
| 6
| 3
| 9
| 4
| 648
| 6
| Junaid Siddique
| 7
| 9
| 2
| 8
| 1008
| 7
| Naeem Islam
| 5
| 5
| 6
| 7
| 1050
| 8
| Shahriar Nafees
| 10
| 10
| 7
| 2
| 1400
| 9
| Mohammad Ashraful
| 8
| 7
| 8
| 10
| 4480
| 10
| Mushfiqur Rahim
| 9
| 8
| 10
| 9
| 6480
| 11
| Suhrawady Shuvo
| 11
| 11
| 11
| 11
| 14641
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Summary Ranking by AveXStr:
If we summarize all rankings based on our combination AveXStr measure using all four screenings, we have the following summary ranking table. To generate the summary ranking, we first separately ranked all players based on intersection of their batting averages and strike rates according to (1) all grounds, (2) home ground, (3) away and neutral grounds and (4) career records screenings. Then all these four rankings are multiplied to generate an overall ranking measure.
Ranking Summary by AveXStr
| Ranking
| Player
| All-Com
| Home-Com
| A&N-Com
| Career-Com
| Rank-Com
| 1
| Shakib Al Hasan
| 2
| 1
| 4
| 1
| 8
| 2
| Tamim Iqbal
| 1
| 2
| 2
| 2
| 8
| 3
| Imrul Kayes
| 3
| 4
| 1
| 4
| 48
| 4
| Mahmudullah Ryad
| 4
| 3
| 5
| 5
| 300
| 5
| Naeem Islam
| 5
| 5
| 7
| 7
| 1225
| 6
| Junaid Siddique
| 6
| 9
| 3
| 9
| 1458
| 7
| Mohammad Ashraful
| 7
| 7
| 6
| 8
| 2352
| 8
| Shahriar Nafees
| 10
| 10
| 8
| 3
| 2400
| 9
| Rakibul Hasan
| 8
| 6
| 9
| 6
| 2592
| 10
| Mushfiqur Rahim
| 9
| 8
| 10
| 10
| 7200
| 11
| Suhrawady Shuvo
| 11
| 11
| 11
| 11
| 14641
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As we can see, the AveXStr measure reflects batting abilities of our players more accurately. The AveXStr measure ranks both Shakib Al Hasan and Tamim Iqbal as our top batsman. However, the Average ranking measure puts Shakib Al Hasan and Imrul Kayes as the top ranking batsman. In any case, as it is evident from these simple, elementary statistics measures, Shakib Al Hasan is THE MAN.
Statistics Source: Cricinfo
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babu bhai to bc-r middle stump uraye charkhar koira dilen.... 
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My vote goes for it's FP. Please.
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Jaiga dokhol.
Z kotha thekay majkhaney dhukey galo????
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February 26, 2011, 10:38 PM
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Great stuff BabuBangla Bhai 
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So you have posted the current ODI career batting averages of the squad? I am so confused....
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So you have posted the current ODI career batting averages of the squad? I am so confused....
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yes, this post doesn't include Tests or T20 innings or domestic innings...
ODI against everyone except Zimbabwe!
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great statistics
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I was juts asking for the CAREER ODI BATTING AVERAGES for the squad. Nothing filtered. Nothing complicated. Can anyone supply that?
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Originally Posted by Ian Pont
I was juts asking for the CAREER ODI BATTING AVERAGES for the squad. Nothing filtered. Nothing complicated. Can anyone supply that?
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Here you go. Sorted alphabetically.
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Originally Posted by Ian Pont
I was juts asking for the CAREER ODI BATTING AVERAGES for the squad. Nothing filtered. Nothing complicated. Can anyone supply that?
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Sure. Here is the Career ODI averages for the World Cup Squad.
Players are listedd alphabetically.
Player
| Ave | | Abdur Razzak | 13.37 | | Imrul Kayes | 29.37 | | Junaid Siddique | 23.82 | | Mahmudullah | 28.31 | | Mohammad Ashraful | 23.34 | | Mushfiqur Rahim | 23.76 | | Naeem Islam | 27.38 | | Nazmul Hossain | 4.37 | | Raqibul Hasan | 30.16 | | Rubel Hossain | 3.25 | | Shafiul Islam | 6.00 | | Shahriar Nafees | 33.49 | | Shakib Al Hasan | 35.00 | | Suhrawadi Shuvo | 9.83 | | Tamim Iqbal | 30.26 |
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Here you go. Sorted alphabetically.
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perfect thanks! We can contrast and compare records now in the line ups
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Shakib Al Hasan is THE MAN.
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That could have been said even without any stats.
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That could have been said even without any stats.
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Interesting though who is next best looking at the stats
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February 27, 2011, 05:23 AM
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Interesting though who is next best looking at the stats
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This is what we have been talking about. He definitely deserves some chances.
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Yeah I want to see him against Netherlands, as well as Nazmul Hossain.
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Here you go. Sorted alphabetically.
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I think we need to think this through in a dispassionate manner and not let the memory of one or two innings cloud our judgment. Some players clearly belong and some clearly do not. Overall averages and current forms should be the only criteria for selecting batsmen. I am willing to cut some slack to Tamim or Shakib for those inevitable out of form periods.
BTW, Jahurul should replace Mushy. Jahurul is a better keeper, averages 31 at a SR of 74 (only 6 ODIs so far), compared to 24 at a SR of 65 for Mushy.
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Perhaps in place of Ash and Naeem/Riyad.
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And that would be my preferred best 11.
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Mine too. Though my ideal 11 cannot be taken fully from this 15.
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Babu bhai-er eto kosto mathe mara gelo, the coach does to care about any interpretation of stats
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Babu bhai-er eto kosto mathe mara gelo, the coach does to care about any interpretation of stats
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That's because the coach is making a very pointed point. If you lay bare the stats, devoid of all things subjective, the best 11 picks itself (not the selectors)
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That's because the coach is making a very pointed point. If you lay bare the stats, devoid of all things subjective, the best 11 picks itself (not the selectors)
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Babu bhai-er eto kosto mathe mara gelo, the coach does to care about any interpretation of stats 
Sorry Babu bhai.
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But it was great fun to play with numbers.
I even thought about running a logistic regression to study how different factors (ground, opponents, day/night, team-combination) etc. affects the likelihood of good performance for each player. May be a project for future...too complex to be useful for sportsman/team management, but fun for me and many of us!
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February 28, 2011, 01:06 AM
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Join Date: June 30, 2005
Location: Little Rock
Favorite Player: Viv Richards, Steve Waugh
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And that's why we kept picking SN who looked so grand against minnows but so hopeless against Test playing teams
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It was then. Now things are a little different. See NZ series. Just like beloved Ashraful's past can no way suggest he can be a match winner with the bat.
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