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Old February 26, 2011, 05:33 AM
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Does anyone has access to the batting stats for our squad players?

I saw the averages of our batsmen on the screen yesterday and wasn't sure if they were career ODI averages or WC..

If someone could post the stats it would be interesting to read them I think.

I note quite a few of the Irish batters averaged over 30, but they play other associates. Ryan ten Doeschate averages over 60 I believe, but for the same reasons I suspect.

The minimum international requirement is at least 30s for a top 5 batter at this level. Can someone provide what the make up of the batters would look like if we did it by their records?
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Old February 26, 2011, 05:35 AM
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Here > http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...tml?country=25

Cricinfo also included a new tab under the players profile which, shows WC stats separately from career stats.
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Old February 26, 2011, 05:43 AM
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Cricinfo also included a new tab under the players profile which, shows WC stats separately from career stats.
Ah, in order to view that tab you will have to go through here > http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cric...m.html?team=25

Players list on the left hand side.
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Old February 26, 2011, 07:11 AM
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I meant can someone post the figures and not link them.. so we can all see them?
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Old February 26, 2011, 07:46 AM
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I meant can someone post the figures and not link them.. so we can all see them?
i will try to post one when i be back at home within 4-5 hours. though i hope some of our fellow BD member may beat me and post before me
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Old February 26, 2011, 07:58 AM
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I wish I knew how to post the cricinfo HTML code

But I'll try to post a small list of their ODI average. Someone later will post a comprehensive stats lists, that looks nice

Tamim Iqbal: 30.26
Imrul Kayes: 29.37
Junaid Siddique: 23.82
Mushfiqur Rahim†: 23.76
Shakib Al Hasan*: 35.00
Raqibul Hasan: 30.16

S. Nafees: 33.49
Mahmudullah: 28.31
Naeem: 27.38
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Old February 26, 2011, 08:31 AM
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Coach, you may want to check the first three posts on this thread. Not exactly what you wanted but a lot of interesting information.

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=35344

I usually have something up like this for each series we play
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Old February 26, 2011, 08:35 AM
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I wish I knew how to post the cricinfo HTML code

But I'll try to post a small list of their ODI average. Someone later will post a comprehensive stats lists, that looks nice

Tamim Iqbal: 30.26
Imrul Kayes: 29.37
Junaid Siddique: 23.82
Mushfiqur Rahim†: 23.76
Shakib Al Hasan*: 35.00
Raqibul Hasan: 30.16
Don't forget S. Nafees 33.49 and Ash 23.34 and Mahmadullah 28.31 and Naeem 27.38
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Old February 26, 2011, 09:06 AM
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Bangladeshi cricketers with batting average of 20 or above:



Current players are marked. Query source: Cricinfo statsguru for BD players with average 20 or higher
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Old February 26, 2011, 09:10 AM
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S.Nafis: Batting Avg is: 33.69 with SR of 70.82
S.Shuvo: Batting AVG 9.83 with SR of 71
M.Riyad:Batting AVG is 28.31 with SR of 67.57( mind u, most of his innings was in the batting PP)
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Old February 26, 2011, 09:30 AM
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i think Mr Pont now has enough info ....

thanks to fellow members who made it easy for me ....
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Old February 26, 2011, 09:48 AM
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Those averages show Junaid Siddique is one of the worst performing batters in the side, and he is batting in the crucial No.3 position as well. I hope the Selectors are watching, Mushfiq's average is low but he has been batting low down the order.

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Old February 26, 2011, 09:55 AM
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Good point Rifat. I never had faith on Junaid as he lacks the capability and temperament of playing longer innings.

An opener or no.3 or no.4 batsman must have to be able to play for longer time as this helps building innings for his team. SN is a better candidate for the team I guess.
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Old February 26, 2011, 10:06 AM
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According to highest strike rate:

Aftab - 83.04
Tamim - 79.57
Shakib - 77.98
Nafees - 70.82
Ashraful - 70.74
Junaid - 67.86
Mahmudullah - 67.54
Rahim - 64.94
Imrul - 66.71
Naeem - 65.26
Raqibul - 62.08
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According to highest average:
Shakib - 35.00
Nafees - 33.49
Tamim - 30.26
Raqibul - 30.16
Imrul - 29.37
Mahmudullah - 28.31
Naeem - 27.38
Aftab Ahmed - 24.73
Junaid - 23.82
Rahim - 23.76
Ashraful - 23.34
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Old February 26, 2011, 10:11 AM
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Here I am posting my analysis of the batsmen in the team by positions.

Position 1: Tamim is doing fine. He is getting matured and has every thing to be an asset for any team.

Position 2: Imrul Kayes is the Ideal opening partner for Tamim. He has some limitation in his batting; but he can score runs. He is getting technically better.

Position 3: Junaid Siddique is not suitable for the position. He couldn't improve his stats though he is in the national side for a long time. He lacks the ability and temperament of playing for longer time. This is really important as a player in this position is expected to build the innings for his team. SN can be a good solution here. His stats are in favor of him.

Position 4: Mushfiqur is also statically not good so far. But he has the ability and temperament. I can give him some time to prove himself as he is moved to this position recently. Hopefully he will be able to prove himself.

Position 5: Shakib is doing fine here though he should take more responsibility.

Position 6: Raqibul is not suited here at present. But he is trying to improve himself to meet the requirements. I can give him time here.

Position 7: Riyad is not suitable here at all. He is a top order batsman. A batsman in this position must have natural hitting capability which is not present in him. If we want to play Riyad then it has to be in the top order.

Ash can be a solution here though I doubt it. We need to find someone like Akmal brothers for this position.

Position 8: Nayeem is totally not suitable here just like Riyad. He is not a hitter though for some strange reason people call him chokka Nayeem. We need to find replacement for him too. If he has to stay in the team then it has to be top order.

Postion 9,10 and 11 are for bolwers.
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Old February 26, 2011, 10:22 AM
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I want to remove junaed from the top order...he's just a average player...scoring 30s, 20s n that's all...but we have nafis who can get big scores if he gets 20s or 30s...n his average is just too good.

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Old February 26, 2011, 10:32 AM
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Just found that Junaid's domestic average is pretty poor too (mid 20s). Dont understand why we are still sticking with this guy. There are surely more talented players than him sitting out there

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Old February 26, 2011, 10:40 AM
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I don't think we should make too many changes, but our middle and lower order flopped. (Sounds familiar?) Junaid should get one more chance, but I am not hopeful. Perhaps Rock can be tried here. I like Mushfiqur, but you cannot have a 24 average at #4. Is he too tired because of keeping duties? Should he be tried as a specialist batsman? Then, we'll need a keeper. How about Jaharul? He impressed me with his bat and is a much better WK. Nafees has 30+ average, but he is a known minnow-basher. He does not fare well against G8 bowling.
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Old February 26, 2011, 10:49 AM
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We should not make too many changes, perhaps a couple.
  1. Bring Jaharul in the team for Junaid and Shuvo for Naeem. (But, Jahurul is not in the 15, right?)
  2. Bring Shuvo for Naeem and switch Junaid and Riyad in the order.
  3. Bring Shuvo for Junaid and elevate Rock to #3.

As you can see, there are no really good option. #1 might be the most palatable, but Jahurul is not even in the 15.
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Old February 26, 2011, 10:51 AM
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Naeem islam can be an option at No.3 as well, from what i can see hes got a very good batting record in our domestic leagues (infact his batting stats seems much better than his bowling stats) and he can go over the top as well. He might be good in the early powerplays.
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Old February 26, 2011, 11:01 AM
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Jamie is just not prepared to accept that he is'nt looking our weaknesses...we always failed in batting powerplay...if you try ash at 7...so why not alok?? If u have better batsmen why don't u give them a chance...even in a warmup match nafis did'nt get a chance...come on jimmy boy!! What u want to prove?

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Old February 26, 2011, 11:03 AM
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I don't think we should make too many changes, but our middle and lower order flopped. (Sounds familiar?) Junaid should get one more chance, but I am not hopeful. Perhaps Rock can be tried here. I like Mushfiqur, but you cannot have a 24 average at #4. Is he too tired because of keeping duties? Should he be tried as a specialist batsman? Then, we'll need a keeper. How about Jaharul? He impressed me with his bat and is a much better WK. Nafees has 30+ average, but he is a known minnow-basher. He does not fare well against G8 bowling.
Mushfiq was never tried up the order which is his original position in domestic cricket. So he can be given some time.

SN played some good innings against big teams too. Remember his 138 against Aus in Fattula? He is at least a minnow basher. Junaid is nothing.
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It has been said many times by many people, you pick the best 11 for your team. Even out of the 15, I am not sure we have the best 11. We are almost there. I hate to see SN with his 30+ average on the bench while we have a bunch of bits and pieces players in the middle. Mind you, I am not advocating any change right now - just wondering why it is what it is.
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Mushfiq was never tried up the order which is his original position in domestic cricket. So he can be given some time.

SN played some good innings against big teams too. Remember his 138 against Aus in Fattula? He is at least a minnow basher. Junaid is nothing.
I just made a shout out for SN above.

And speaking of Mushfiq, he has played 10 matches in the upper order where his avg is almost 30. His highest score of 98 also came from the position. Give him time.

And yes, time for a rethink of Zunaed soon.

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Old February 26, 2011, 11:16 AM
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I feel bad when pakistanis, indian, aussies are using hard hitters...we're using some skinny n short heighted players like naim or ash...they don't have the power to hit the ball...so how could u expect to use the batting pp...jamie is'nt doing any scouting at all...in bd everyone is playing cricket...remember?? Dav gave Mushfiqur rahman a go, also Manjarul Rana...Jamie got any break he used to pass vacation in australia...how could u say him a professional?? I agree same players can make sum real chemistry in the team but if u don't look for the best how could u improve the skills...after wc we should look for a new coach.

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