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Old March 22, 2016, 07:01 AM
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soon people will bash Ryad for not willing to bat at 5 or other position, just let him fail once, the churi, bothi, dao,bollom , kodal will be out.
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Old March 22, 2016, 07:22 AM
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soon people will bash Ryad for not willing to bat at 5 or other position, just let him fail once, the churi, bothi, dao,bollom , kodal will be out.
Hehe simon da, pura hasa kotha koisen. You know how well equipped our fans are
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Old March 22, 2016, 07:27 AM
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soon people will bash Ryad for not willing to bat at 5 or other position, just let him fail once, the churi, bothi, dao,bollom , kodal will be out.
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Old March 22, 2016, 07:40 AM
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And there is your answer for a pressure situation player. Can't believe once people has tagged him as sissy !
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Old March 22, 2016, 07:42 AM
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And there is your answer for a pressure situation player. Can't believe once people has tagged him as sissy !
Yes sister, that's why I was shocked seeing people vote for Shakib
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Old March 22, 2016, 08:07 AM
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Yes sister, that's why I was shocked seeing people vote for Shakib
I don't know why you are shocked, people who has been following BD cricket since inception knows it very well that Shakib was our only answer for pressure situation games for a long long time. It's still fresh in my memory how Shakib alone has lifted match after match all by himself. The WI test series win, the win against SL in 2008, the Win against NZ and many more. There were times when cricinfo themselves will refer Shakib as a superman. So nothing to be shocked about and as nothing is permanent in this world, may be Shakib's time is over and someone new will replace his position. That's natural so let's move on. But let's not belittle someone's achievement and contribution.
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Old March 22, 2016, 12:45 PM
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I m impressed...

They found there finisher but I think he needs to bat 1 up
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Old March 22, 2016, 06:06 PM
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The fact that he never really gets out shows he has good surviving skills, that too when he comes to bat and the team needs him to score quick with no time to get set
And he manages to score when the field set and the bowling are very deffensive.
This makes me wonder how would he fare if he opened.
I think it is more likely that he will survive the first 6-8 overs and give us a flying start by taking full advantage of batting powerplay.
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Old March 22, 2016, 08:50 PM
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The fact that he never really gets out shows he has good surviving skills, that too when he comes to bat and the team needs him to score quick with no time to get set
And he manages to score when the field set and the bowling are very deffensive.
This makes me wonder how would he fare if he opened.
I think it is more likely that he will survive the first 6-8 overs and give us a flying start by taking full advantage of batting powerplay.
In ODIs, he was poor at #3 but has done very well at #4. He struggles with the new ball. Has a lot of difficulty when the ball swings. He isn't an opener or a #3. You can't just play anyone as an opener. You need a specific skill set to open. He can't bat at #3 in any format either. The more Mahmudullah sees the ball, the better he plays. He likes to play it late, and an older ball suits him.

In T20s, this finisher role is new. He spent a lot of time practicing some of the shots and is doing very well and feels comfortable in that role now. Instead of changing his role so soon again (quick chopping and changing is never a good idea, esp in the middle of a series), let him finish the tournament at #6. Later, we can try him at #5. Eventually, I want to see him play there in T20s.
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Old March 22, 2016, 08:52 PM
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The fact that he never really gets out shows he has good surviving skills, that too when he comes to bat and the team needs him to score quick with no time to get set
And he manages to score when the field set and the bowling are very deffensive.
This makes me wonder how would he fare if he opened.
I think it is more likely that he will survive the first 6-8 overs and give us a flying start by taking full advantage of batting powerplay.
You make it sound like any middle order player can open. Opening is a specialist position.
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Old March 23, 2016, 12:43 AM
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Riyad can play the swinging ball very well. Dont know where ppl are getting the idea that he cant. Riyad can bat anywhere in the order.
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Old March 23, 2016, 01:03 AM
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but but if a player think he is comfortable and accepting new role as finisher then let him do that as far as he is successfull in that role. now suffling againg order can haphazard his own game. better let him play where he is right now laying successfully. we don't have many players who can play that role comfortably at that order.
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Old March 23, 2016, 01:07 AM
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Riyad can play the swinging ball very well. Dont know where ppl are getting the idea that he cant. Riyad can bat anywhere in the order.
Yes.We have seen it in Aus and NZ. Here the thing is mindset. He likes to play in lower middle order. Do we really need to change it?
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Old March 23, 2016, 02:01 AM
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Yes.We have seen it in Aus and NZ. Here the thing is mindset. He likes to play in lower middle order. Do we really need to change it?
his comfortable slots in 3 formats are:

Test: No.6
ODI: No.3
T20: No.7

shouldnt be changed. He is clearly the person for these positions.
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Old March 23, 2016, 02:02 AM
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All good players can play the swinging ball. Doesnt mean AB, Ponting, Lara would want to open. Batting order is a player's mental comfort zone.
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Old March 23, 2016, 03:47 AM
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Shabbir might have made 3 his own for even ODI. This is actually good because we ve had a gap in this slot for an awful long time.
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Old March 23, 2016, 08:18 AM
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his comfortable slots in 3 formats are:

Test: No.6
ODI: No.3
T20: No.7

shouldnt be changed. He is clearly the person for these positions.
at 6 in T20 as well. We have Nurul/Nasir at 7, Mash at 8 and then bowlers.

He is the best batsmen in the team now. Ideally, the best batsmen should play as many deliveries as possible. #6 at both ODI/T20 is too late for my liking. But if Riyad wants it then so be it.
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Old March 23, 2016, 09:54 AM
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Idiot al amin let down.
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Old March 23, 2016, 10:37 AM
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F al amin idiot no sense why is he in last over
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Old March 23, 2016, 10:38 AM
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Old March 23, 2016, 10:40 AM
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Old March 23, 2016, 10:48 AM
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Riyad can play the swinging ball very well. Dont know where ppl are getting the idea that he cant. Riyad can bat anywhere in the order.
Riyad struggled against swing even in the WC (ODI). He struggled with swing more than any other player. Even commentators pointed out that he was having difficulties with swing. Where did you get the idea that he plays swing very well?

And no, he can't bat anywhere in the order. Opening is a specialist position. You can't just randomly play a middle order batsman as an opener.

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his comfortable slots in 3 formats are:

Test: No.6
ODI: No.3
T20: No.7

shouldnt be changed. He is clearly the person for these positions.
#4 in ODIs, not #3. He did very well at 4 in the WC, didn't do well at 3 afterwards, did well at 4 again when he was moved back to 4.

He's batting at 6 in T20s now.
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Old March 23, 2016, 10:51 AM
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Riyad struggled against swing even in the WC (ODI). He struggled with swing more than any other player. Even commentators pointed out that he was having difficulties with swing. Where did you get the idea that he plays swing very well?



#4 in ODIs, not #3. He did very well at 4 in the WC, didn't do well at 3 afterwards, did well at 4 again when he was moved back to 4.

He's batting at 6 in T20s now.
We probably have seen completely different matches.
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