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Old March 24, 2012, 09:07 PM
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where are all the mahmudullah haters now?
Here. As I said before, he is not a ODI player. We played him because we didn't have alternatives. he is a one dimensional player who can't change gears according to the match situation. he can give you a win when a 50 balls 30 is required but he can't give you a win when a 30 balls 50 is required. Not judging him just by his Asia cup performance. And I have doubts if he is good enough to play at the top order. Top order doesn't always allow you play safe and slow. It often requires you to change gears. Remember Naeem's innings at the top of the order against WI? He couldn't make connection between bat all ball. The new ball was too good for him. and until then lot of people were saying he was a top order material. You can compare Riad's type with Rahul Dravid's. He was a great batsmen but just not good for limited overs..
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Old March 24, 2012, 09:20 PM
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where are all the mahmudullah haters now?
Don't worry. There are plenty and for good reasons too

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Old March 24, 2012, 10:25 PM
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Old March 24, 2012, 10:38 PM
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where are all the mahmudullah haters now?
what sissy takes one run and gives a tail ender strike to hit 4 of 2 balls?...he has done nothing for those haters to become lovers..he had a good SL game but ruined it in the final with that Bogus decision to take the extra run
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Old March 25, 2012, 03:02 AM
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he is a solid player, but has problems with hitting boundaries when needed e.g. the final. being the specialist bat or allounder (depending on how you want to see him), he should have been the go to batsman, he should have been the one taking charge, taking control and he should have been the one to pull out the win, it was his job to score the bulk of those last few runs and to ensure the win but he passed it along to razzak.

i guess you can't predict a fielder getting in your way and stopping a second run but he had earlier opportunities to get a couple/few more runs but he was waiting until the very end to pull out the big shot.

in saying all nthis i'm not sure who we have to replace him. his spin comes in handy, naeem is a back up but he is the same as riyad in that situation the other player who comes to mind is sabbir but he's not deserving at this point of a call up, he may have the talent but he hasn't put down the performance.
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Old March 25, 2012, 03:20 AM
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Ideal position for mahmudullah may be bating at 4. But he couldn’t do well there before! However, he should have finished the match. I am not against the first single of the last over too. Later instead of taking 3 runs and give the strike back to Razzak, I thought it would have better to take 2 runs and keep the strike.
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Old March 25, 2012, 03:25 AM
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he is a solid player, but has problems with hitting boundaries when needed e.g. the final. being the specialist bat or allounder (depending on how you want to see him), he should have been the go to batsman, he should have been the one taking charge, taking control and he should have been the one to pull out the win, it was his job to score the bulk of those last few runs and to ensure the win but he passed it along to razzak.

i guess you can't predict a fielder getting in your way and stopping a second run but he had earlier opportunities to get a couple/few more runs but he was waiting until the very end to pull out the big shot.

in saying all nthis i'm not sure who we have to replace him. his spin comes in handy, naeem is a back up but he is the same as riyad in that situation the other player who comes to mind is sabbir but he's not deserving at this point of a call up, he may have the talent but he hasn't put down the performance.

I am disappointed only with him, nobody else, what was the point taking singles and give strike to tailenders at that point, it was not much a different with run and ball. we didnt have a single four in last 2 overs, if we had, we would won, the base was ready for him to score. If he cant win at that point, he cant be at no 8 position. he has to prove at 4 position. otherwise he cant be at the team. sorry
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Old March 25, 2012, 03:36 AM
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Riyad is just a slow-motion guy.... He missed a juicy ball before that over, by backing off like a tailender... He isn't a finisher at all... He can't finish a match...now don't bring in that Ind match... It was way too easy at that point when scores were level...

Let him bat up the order with his Tuk-Tuk batting....or be only for test... We can get sunny in place of him in ODIs.

He miss judged that run in first ball, there was never 2 runs there. We have seen in first match against Pak, that you can't depend on Rzzak in such situation, how can he forget that?? When Razzak wasn't connecting, why he didn't arrange with Razzak for a quick run even if he doesn't connect?? If both are ready to run, it's easy to run a single against the pacer, with WK a bit away. He was like a laid bak elephant in the crease.... And now whining about cheema obstruction for his in ability?? That's pathetic ...
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Old March 25, 2012, 05:33 AM
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those who are asking for Naeem in the team, id rather have shahadat. Naeem will score 30 runs from 60 balls while batting in the depth. in that comparision 7.0 eco. rate of shahadat hossain is marginally better

The point is, this kind of ordinary players shudnt be in a quality team like BD
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Old March 25, 2012, 07:13 AM
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20 runs needed in 100 balls , Riyad will remain not out and win the match for you.

20 runs needed in 10 balls . Riyad will remain not out and but you lose the match.
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Old March 25, 2012, 09:53 AM
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i guess some BC member dont like slow batsman at all. its matter of time, they will start hating them


list: javed omar, rokibul, imrul kayes, mehrab jr, naeem islam and now its mahmudullah's turn.

we need combo of hard hitter and cool head like riad, so he stays
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Old March 25, 2012, 10:54 AM
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I don't know why people hates him so much. He is not that bad. He is a good offie for our team and adds some variation in the bowling . Remember Ramij was saying that Pak batsman found it hard to score runs against him. About his batting I would say it's just his mindset. Sometimes he wants to be aggressive at the very 1st ball and he gets out and sometimes he just hides in the shell. The coach have to work with his batting and boost his confidence. Give him some time he would be a very good player. He has it in him, he is no Naeem.
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Old March 25, 2012, 11:26 AM
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I don't know why people hates him so much. He is not that bad. He is a good offie for our team and adds some variation in the bowling . Remember Ramij was saying that Pak batsman found it hard to score runs against him. About his batting I would say it's just his mindset. Sometimes he wants to be aggressive at the very 1st ball and he gets out and sometimes he just hides in the shell. The coach have to work with his batting and boost his confidence. Give him some time he would be a very good player. He has it in him, he is no Naeem.
He def. has the ability but it all comes down to how you utilize the ability in the big stages

He has only 6, and I repeat, 6 ODI half centuries, and non are more than 70, shows what a class he is
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Old March 25, 2012, 11:30 AM
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He def. has the ability but it all comes down to how you utilize the ability in the big stages

He has only 6, and I repeat, 6 ODI half centuries, and non are more than 70, shows what a class he is
We should remember he comes to bat at number 7 a whole lot pressure situation where you have to start scoring from the word go. He still didn't master that art like Shakib. I would say play him at number 4 then he will get more time to settle and pace his innings.
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Old March 25, 2012, 11:49 AM
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We should remember he comes to bat at number 7 a whole lot pressure situation where you have to start scoring from the word go. He still didn't master that art like Shakib. I would say play him at number 4 then he will get more time to settle and pace his innings.
I think that's an option we have to explore. Since Mahmudullah is more of a builder then an accelerator, it might be better to have him in there when we're 40-2 or 50-2 rather then have him for quick runs. I was thinking about Nasir as well but I think its better to push him down for now and bring him up later when he's more experienced. Mushy has gotten many chances already at #4 and just hasn't delivered enough. His big innings have come from the #6 spot and seems a much better batsman there. So we could give Mahmudullah chances at #4. Then more answers will come out. If he can deliver, then that's great but if he can't then I think its better to let him go. Not good to have him either here or there which it seems like right now.

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Old March 25, 2012, 11:50 AM
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Made another 70+ score at more than a run-a-ball in the DPL. He has a lot to work on to become a finisher, but I think with time, he'll get better or we'll find an alternate use for him in the team(e.g. further up in the order).

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Old March 25, 2012, 12:11 PM
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The reason why people are upset at him because He has been given a chance at the top order and he failed there....

Paksitan vs. Bangladesh 3rd ODI Sometime in December 2011...The platform was IDEAL for someone like Riyad to play the type of innings he likes to play and bring the team glory. We were chasing a fairly modest total with lots of balls to spare and the asking rate was something any batsmen wouldn't mind at all...nope it was indeed a golden opportunity for him but he wasted it.(scored 35 and got out when he was set! Astagfirullah!)


We, Bangladeshi Cricket fans, BCB, you name it are maybe a bit too impatient. after a couple of failures at the top order, since he is VC he can't drop him so we demoted him down the order, thus making life even more difficult for him than it already is.

His place should be swapped with Nasir Hossain. He should be given more chances at #4 particualrly in Test matches assuming he plays with a calm sensible heart...

In ODI, we are wasting him at #7, he should either be promoted at #4 or not be in the team at all...simple as that!

We learned from the Past that he is no powerplay material! I don't think he will ever become one.

Mushfiqur Rahim should come to play at #4 only after the 18th over, when the ball is slightly older, Rahim has serious issues with the moving ball(World class pacemen). otherwise, Mushfiqur should come in at #6 if there is an early collapse. Shakib is fine at #5. However, based on this analysis, The only place Nasir Hossain gets is #7, which is not right, Nasir Doesn't deserve to bat that low in the order! so the solution is either Riyad should play(and stay) at #3(or any place in the top order) or don't play him in ODI at all...


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the point is, He is pretty much useless if he comes down to bat after #5, based on his style of play!

the bottom line is, fans are rightfully upset with Riyad not only because of the final innings(which i personally do not blame him at all, i thought he tried within the best of his ability) but also because in the past, when there was a chance(a lot of match winning opportunities) for him, he didn't make the most of it! Even He Himself will admit that and that's why he is working really really hard in the domestic league to even try to compensate for it. and if Allah wills, He will come through for us in future, just like he has in the match against Sri Lanka just only less than a week ago. He has to believe he can do it. He has to believe that when everyone else fails, he can take all the load on his shoulders and DELIVER! just like Shakib-al-Hasan has and by the grace of the Almighty he continues to 'till this day...
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Old March 25, 2012, 12:56 PM
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so, if riad is to come at nasir's place, then nasir being a good batsman has to play at no. 7! Which is too low.

And mushy is too good a batsman for No. 7.

The last recognized batsman issue is a big thing and I dont think anyone gets a cut. However, if someone like babu or reza plays then we can afford to play someone like nasir as no.7 as he will feel that there is a batsman after him so that relieves some of the pressure. These 2 guys are good pacers so it works out.

We couldve also tried out kapali but kapali just hasnt performed when he should
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Old March 25, 2012, 01:26 PM
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Mahmudullah should bat at 4 in ODIs. He takes time to settle unlike Nasir and Shakib. He is not someone who will go for 4s and 6s from the first ball. He is not fit for no.7.

He bats at 4/5 in domestic leagues and he scores a lot of runs in these positions with good strike rates.

He played at 4 against Australia and scored a 50+ innings with good strike rate.

and ami bujhina why some people saying he can't play match winning innings? Didn't he play one against Srilanka with a good SR?

He is a good bowler but not getting supports from captains. Shakib ignored him most of the time and Mushy doing the same as well.
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I don't understand when Riyad himself did not say anything and left it to the umpire...why does BCB have to claim for 5 runs after 48 hours of the match....haire BCB!

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Old May 13, 2012, 05:55 AM
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what sissy takes one run and gives a tail ender strike to hit 4 of 2 balls?...he has done nothing for those haters to become lovers..he had a good SL game but ruined it in the final with that Bogus decision to take the extra run
thanks for the correct assessment of the final moments of the Asia Cup final Mahmudullah should have taken the matter in his hands to help win the game instead of giving the strike to Abdur Razzak
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Old May 13, 2012, 07:34 AM
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thanks for the correct assessment of the final moments of the Asia Cup final Mahmudullah should have taken the matter in his hands to help win the game instead of giving the strike to Abdur Razzak
At that point in time every run was gold.

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Old June 3, 2012, 01:51 AM
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Congrats Riyad, very happy for you. May GOD bless your family.

Prediction: this will be your last T20I tour under Pybus or any real coach. You should enjoy it while it lasts. That being said, you didn't select yourself for this format.
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Old June 3, 2012, 01:56 AM
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