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Old March 14, 2011, 11:34 AM
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Good work Shaifiul! Very impressive, he has very fluid bowling action (chest on), which should reduce the chances of him getting injured. If you contrast that to Msshrafee, who has a mixed action,(front and side on) that puts a lot of pressure on his body. The biomechanics for Shaiful is very good, Shafiul doen't need to bulk up, he should run and run, build ip those legs.

So we need to all stop going on about his physique.
I have to correct you, sorry.

Shafiul is a SIDEWAYS bowler (back foot lands parallel with the crease) but has a slight 'mix' at the top (misaligns his hips with top half).

Mashrafee couldn't be more SIDEWAYS if he tried (both top and bottom completely lined up correctly).

Shafiul has work to do on using his trailing leg better and not splaying out his front foot so much. Mash is at the behest of his injuries sadly and will always be unable to correct his 'crossed over' feet at the crease.
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Old March 14, 2011, 11:44 AM
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Shafi is a stud. Best find for BD in last five years after Tamim and Sakib.
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Old March 14, 2011, 11:54 AM
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I won't, on a further note, is Pink City a regular event?
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Old March 14, 2011, 11:59 AM
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Remarkable that this guy emerged from outside the official cricket structure, i.e. no age-group cricket, no BKSP, no training camps at the MRF Pace Academy, etc.

I hope we nurture this talent and manage to retain him for at least another 12-15 years.
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Old March 14, 2011, 12:04 PM
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I have to correct you, sorry.

Shafiul is a SIDEWAYS bowler (back foot lands parallel with the crease) but has a slight 'mix' at the top (misaligns his hips with top half).

Mashrafee couldn't be more SIDEWAYS if he tried (both top and bottom completely lined up correctly).

Shafiul has work to do on using his trailing leg better and not splaying out his front foot so much. Mash is at the behest of his injuries sadly and will always be unable to correct his 'crossed over' feet at the crease.
Well Said coach, that guy had it completely wrong

Mashrafe is sideways as sideways can be, he is practically a semi slinger like Waqar Younis
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Old March 14, 2011, 12:51 PM
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I have to correct you, sorry.

Shafiul is a SIDEWAYS bowler (back foot lands parallel with the crease) but has a slight 'mix' at the top (misaligns his hips with top half).

Mashrafee couldn't be more SIDEWAYS if he tried (both top and bottom completely lined up correctly).

Shafiul has work to do on using his trailing leg better and not splaying out his front foot so much. Mash is at the behest of his injuries sadly and will always be unable to correct his 'crossed over' feet at the crease.
Thanks coach, Iam happy to be corrected, that's one of the great things about having you on the forum.

I guess the reason why I observed what I did is because, I was always taught that, if you are bowling side on, then at the point of delivery, the head is looking at the batsmen over the leading arm (ike Shoiab Akhtar), and if the action is chest on, then the head looks at the batsmen from inside the leading arm (like Mcgrath). The above is supposed help the bowler align the top and bottom part of the torso. So when I see Shafiul bowling on TV, I always thought he was bowling chest on because of the above logic.

It would be great if you can provide some thoughts on the above. Thanks.

Musfique
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Old March 14, 2011, 12:53 PM
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Well Said coach, that guy had it completely wrong

Mashrafe is sideways as sideways can be, he is practically a semi slinger like Waqar Younis
Thanks for your valuable input, you have seriously added a lot of content here with some very useful insight.
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Old March 14, 2011, 01:03 PM
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Ian, I have another technical question. How is the Bangladeshi boys use of the wrist and fingers at the point of delivery to get nip of the wicket? I remember reading a book on Boimechanics a while ago, that claimed, the difference between county standard pace and international standard pace bowlers is the use finger flex. I will try to find the source of the book asap.

On a personal point of view, your book is great, I have followed some of your guidance, about swing bowling and now able to control the outswing and inswing at will in addition to being more accurate; the chest drive is something that I wasn't doing properly before. Thanks
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Old March 14, 2011, 01:07 PM
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Well done Shafiul
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Old March 14, 2011, 01:16 PM
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It's unfortunate he didn't get a wicket, deserved 10.
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Old March 14, 2011, 01:37 PM
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It's unfortunate he didn't get a wicket, deserved 10.
If only Razzak wasn't day dreaming...
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Old March 14, 2011, 03:02 PM
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Shafi is a stud. Best find for BD in last five years after Tamim and Sakib.
right now Shafi stocks are selling at higher price than Tamim and Shakib stocks.
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Old March 14, 2011, 03:06 PM
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At the absence of Mash, BD called for a solder to rise to the occasion to take the stage and let Mash's absence not be felt. He took it, and took it well.

Great job kiddo. And don't read too much into those missed MoM awards. Your shelf will be full soon.
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Old March 14, 2011, 06:23 PM
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brilliant bowling by this little guy, pity, the ball had to go to Razak who is the laziest fielder of the lot. By Allah's grace, he will improve as he continues bowling.
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Old March 14, 2011, 08:44 PM
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Thanks coach, Iam happy to be corrected, that's one of the great things about having you on the forum.

I guess the reason why I observed what I did is because, I was always taught that, if you are bowling side on, then at the point of delivery, the head is looking at the batsmen over the leading arm (ike Shoiab Akhtar), and if the action is chest on, then the head looks at the batsmen from inside the leading arm (like Mcgrath). The above is supposed help the bowler align the top and bottom part of the torso. So when I see Shafiul bowling on TV, I always thought he was bowling chest on because of the above logic.

It would be great if you can provide some thoughts on the above. Thanks.

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99% of coaches have no idea how to tell if a bowler is side on front or or mid way (semi).

All you need to look at is where the back foot points on landing in the crease. Shafiul and Mash are both sideways to the direction they are bowling. Rubel is mid way or semi
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Old March 14, 2011, 08:51 PM
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However, I'm fearing for the worst against the Saffers. they're no more the chokers and will probably do enough damage early on to restrict our bowlers from continuing this way.
Why so pessimistic ?
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Old March 14, 2011, 09:08 PM
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99% of coaches have no idea how to tell if a bowler is side on front or or mid way (semi).

All you need to look at is where the back foot points on landing in the crease. Shafiul and Mash are both sideways to the direction they are bowling. Rubel is mid way or semi
Yikes

Thats concerning for a slinger.
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Old March 14, 2011, 11:16 PM
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i am happy that his career economy rate is now below 6 ..........
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