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Old March 19, 2011, 01:30 PM
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I think we're the first WC host in history to not make it to the knockout stages
i think South Africa got knocked out early like us in 2003 as hosts

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Old March 19, 2011, 01:40 PM
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enough with this money sucking, blood sucking worthless foreign coaches. We are a poor country and we should not spend this much money on foreigners. I say have our local coaches run the show. Make Bulbul , Nannu or even Sujon part of our coaching team. They cant do any worse than Siddons....
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Old March 19, 2011, 01:44 PM
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Old March 19, 2011, 01:44 PM
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To all the self loather wannabes spewing your vitroilic "Bangali this" "Bangladeshi that" s**t: not interested in knowing how you project your own issues. Get some therapy and meds, and unless you're too busy with your customary NRB/Deshi "elite" faggotry, do breed the Bangali out of you in a couple of generations PLEASE! WE DON'T NEED YOUR KIND!
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Old March 19, 2011, 01:46 PM
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Ganguly won't be a bad choice. He understands the desi players mentality.

But first we need to feed Shafiul and Rubel. I know Shofiul pakhir motho khai but erokom liklika shorir niye 135km bowling diye kono future nai specially against good teams with sporting wicket. It's too late to add some inches to boost the height.

We need to replace Mushfiqur with a solid batsmen+keeper. Mushfiqur can be used in test matches. He is useless in ODI.

We also need to find a solid ODI batsman to take the middle order slot from roqibul/nafeez/ashraful. Someone who can play big shots and also can defend and take singles if needed.

We also need to look for a proper offspiner. Someone like Swann or Harbhajan. Naeem and Riyadh er bowling are too predictable. Only Riyadh or Naeem should play.

I also think Shakib should try to bat at no. 3. He can improve his batting just like he did his bowling. He has the courage to play strokes against pace and spin. We just need to add some beef in the middle order.
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Old March 19, 2011, 01:48 PM
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What good coach would want to come to the **** hole that is Bangladesh cricket?
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Old March 19, 2011, 01:58 PM
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Tom Moody will be a good choice.
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Old March 19, 2011, 02:05 PM
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ganguly.

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good pick...he can think bigger..
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Old March 19, 2011, 03:31 PM
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You think it's the coaches fault? It's not Siddons fault theres no brains in bangladesh cricket. The talent in the country of 150 million people like we keep dreaming of isn't there. Bengali people aren't really exceptional at anything. We need to start looking for talent overseas instead, like the Imran Tahirs and the rejects of other national cricket teams. They can play much better than the shitty players we have now.
really ? do I need to list them out for you ?
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Old March 19, 2011, 03:50 PM
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Shakib to me is the only genuine talented cricketer we have. We need 11 more players like that before we think about coach. In the meantime, take anyone, it wont make a difference.
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Old March 19, 2011, 04:02 PM
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Ideally, no-one apart from the players should be Bangladeshi...our Bangladeshi bhais have mismanaged our cricket infrastructure from the start.

Head of BCB should be a foreigner.
CEO of BCB should be a foreigner.
All committee heads of the BCB should be foreigners.
All Selectors should be foreigners.
All national team coaching staff should be foreigners.
All age-group coaches should be foreigners.
All club coaches should be foreigners.
All curators should be foreigners.
Jeez man, so typical....never mind I'm not going to say anything...why stop at the management we should also have foreign players from England and Australia.

Oh and while you are at it, why don't you get some nip and tuck and become a foreigner yourself, that would complete it all.
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Old March 19, 2011, 04:13 PM
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It would be foolish to change our coaching unit. Although its absurd to comment from outside but i believe its the best one till this day. If you want to change something then change that psychiatrist or whatever who pretends boost up our mental state.

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Old March 19, 2011, 04:59 PM
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Old March 19, 2011, 05:00 PM
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Minhazul Abedin Nannu. Laugh at me as much you want, but I will stick to a deshi coach with good cricket brain.
Nannu can be a batting coach for age-based teams. For national team , players used to playing in the slow-low pitches of BD national league have lead feet and zero footwork. No coach can team them anything.

Create fast pitches and teach the young players. They will be able to sponge new techniques. Beside techniques we need someone to teach players the art/science of learning and professionalism. Salahuddin is a good candidate for that.
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Old March 19, 2011, 05:05 PM
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Coach is as good players .BD players will have to play upto their potential if they want to survive in international cricket .
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Old March 19, 2011, 05:15 PM
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Old March 19, 2011, 05:16 PM
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Jeez man, so typical....never mind I'm not going to say anything...why stop at the management we should also have foreign players from England and Australia.

Oh and while you are at it, why don't you get some nip and tuck and become a foreigner yourself, that would complete it all.
If "our" guys can't be trusted to develop the infrastructure, then trust we should entrust this responsibility to capable foreigners, who we're supposed to be emulating anyway.

If you don't understand my argument, then don't bother making a comment, Shatazz.
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Old March 19, 2011, 05:18 PM
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The biggest drawback of the Siddons era is that he has allowed the players, especially the batsmen, live in complacency. Even when a player has been struggling with an extended period of poor form, he refused to look for an alternative for that player. He just dropped the player for a match or two, at best for a series, but then he brought that player back with indifferent performances.

We need the next coach to instill better discipline and sense of personal responsibility among players. At same time, he should be willing to work with a wider group of players regardless how well or poor the 15 players selected for a series may do (so that when a players suffers from an extended poor form, we don't have to hear "he is still in the team, because we failed to prepare a better alternative").

My feeling is that Julien Fountain will fit the role well and should be given a two year trial (if he is still available).
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Old March 19, 2011, 05:24 PM
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^Agree with the first part of your argument. Siddons' arguments no longer wash...

But, why do you feel that Julien Fountain will be the solution? What has he achieved?
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Old March 19, 2011, 05:26 PM
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The Bangladesh team dont need coaches, BCB can save lots of money by firing all the foreign coaches and let these young guys continue with their wayward and reckless mindset. It should have noticed by Siddons himself that these guys cannot handle real fast bowling and this world cup showed their fragility.
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Old March 19, 2011, 05:38 PM
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If "our" guys can't be trusted to develop the infrastructure, then trust we should entrust this responsibility to capable foreigners, who we're supposed to be emulating anyway.

If you don't understand my argument, then don't bother making a comment, Shatazz.
Yeah off course, your argument is grounded in such logical clarity and precision that I would need to somehow get a brain transplant to understand your argument.

What you say is impractical and something thats never going to happen. I think you ought to learn more about professional cricket before you make a bigger fool out of yourself.

Besides do you think these foreigners would ever be as attached or genuinely care about our cricket like bangladeshis do? The answer is a resounding NO. They are just there to make a quick buck.

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^Agree with the first part of your argument. Siddons' arguments no longer wash...

But, why do you feel that Julien Fountain will be the solution? What has he achieved?
I have admit, I am relying on my gut feelings here. The guy has a fascinating career as a sportsman himself, he should know what kind of discipline any sports person should have. Any team he worked with has shown good improvement. Besides national teams, he has worked with various development teams too, which should be considered a plus in context of Bangladesh team. Whenever he talked with us fans or to the media, he portrayed himself as a true professional coach and never said anything negative (very much in contrast with Siddons). Overall, he fits my mental image how a professional coach should be.

* He has completed ECB level 3 coaches program, in case you are wondering what's his qualification as a head coach. And, as a said before, he played the role for various development teams.
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Old March 19, 2011, 06:02 PM
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Yeah off course, your argument is grounded in such logical clarity and precision that I would need to somehow get a brain transplant to understand your argument.

What you say is impractical and something thats never going to happen. I think you ought to learn more about professional cricket before you make a bigger fool out of yourself.

Besides do you think these foreigners would ever be as attached or genuinely care about our cricket like bangladeshis do? The answer is a resounding NO. They are just there to make a quick buck.
Shatazz,

We've had a BCB CEO who was a foreigner.
We've had age-group coaches who were foreigners.
We've had national team coaches who were foreigners.
We've had club team coaches who were foreigners.
We've had curators who were foreigners.

So not impractical. If our guys can't emulate the best, then we should bring in the best from abroad to run things and train us.

Foreigners are there to make a quick buck? How do you know? Did you ask them? Did they confess their true intentions to you in a private moment? Do you think Gordon Greenidge was just making a quick buck in Bangladesh? Do you think Eddie Barlow wanted to make a quick buck? And how do you know that Bangladeshis aren't there to make a quick buck themselves?
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Old March 19, 2011, 06:06 PM
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Shubho - you can "argue" till you are blue in the face but it is an exercise in futility if directed at those who do not comprehend the very nature of professionalism. On a lighter note, there is ONE position in Cricket Bangladesh that could do with a non-Bangladeshi - Loitta's position.

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Old March 19, 2011, 06:10 PM
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Shubho - you can "argue" till you are blue in the face but it is an exercise in futility if directed at those who do not comprehend the very nature of professionalism. On a lighter note, there is ONE position in Cricket Bangladesh that could do with a non-Bangladeshi - Loitta's position.

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I would LOVE for Loitta's position to go to a cricketing visionary like the late Eddie Barlow.
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