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Old August 1, 2007, 09:36 PM
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Exclamation WC Teams from 1999, 2003 and 2007: Their Batting Averages

1999 WC Squad & BAs: -

1. Mohammad Aminul Islam: 23.35 after 39 ODIs, HS 70; 21.19 after 13 tests, HS 145.
2. Shahriar Hossain: 19.05 after 20 ODIs, HS 95; 19.80 after 3 tests, HS 48.
3. Khaled Mashud: 21.90 after 126 matches, HS 71*; 19.04 after 44 tests, HS 103*.
4. Faruk Ahmed: 15.00 from 7 ODIs, HS 57.
5. Mehrab Hossain Opi: 24.94 from 18 ODIs, HS 101; 13.38 from 9 tests, HS 71.
6. Mohammad Akram Hossain Khan: 23.23 after 44 ODIs, HS 65; 16.18 after 8 tests, HS 44.
7. Shafiuddin Ahmed: 5.50 after 11 ODIs, HS 11.
8. Khaled Mahmud: 14.36 after 77 ODIs, HS 50; 12.09 after 12 tests, HS 45.
9. Naimur Rahman Durjoy: 19.51 after 29 ODIs, HS 47; 15.00 after 8 tests, HS 48.
10. Hasibul Hossain: 8.59 after 32 ODIs, HS 21*; 10.77 after 5 tests, HS 31.
11. Mohammad Rafique: 13.38 after 125 ODIs, HS 77; 19.52 after 31 tests, HS 111.
12. Enamul Haque Moni: 11.23 after 29 ODIs, HS 32; 12.00 after 10 tests, HS 24*.
13. Mohammad Manjural Islam: 5.88 after 34 ODIs, HS 13; 3.68 after 17 tests, HS 21.
14. Mohammad Niamur Rashid: 5.00 after 2 ODIs, HS 4*.
15. Minhajul Abedin: 18.87 from 27 ODIs, HS 68*.

2003 WC Squad & BAs: -

1. Mohammad Al-Shahriar: 13.35 after 29 ODIs, HS 62*; 22.76 after 15 tests, HS 71.
2. Alok Kapali: 19.67 after 55 ODIs, HS 89*; 17.69 after 17 tests, HS 85.
3. Khaled Mashud: 21.90 after 126 matches, HS 71*; 19.04 after 44 tests, HS 103*.
4. Quazi Habibul Bashar: 21.68 from 111 ODIs, HS 78; 32.09 from 47 tests, HS 113.
5. Hannan Sarkar: 19.14 from 20 ODIs, HS 61; 20.06 from 17 tests, HS 76.
6. Ehsanul Haque: 9.05 after 6 ODIs, HS 20; 3.5 after 1 test, HS 5.
7. Sanowar Hossain: 11.59 after 27 ODIs, HS 52; 19.16 after 9 tests, HS 49.
8. Khaled Mahmud: 14.36 after 77 ODIs, HS 50; 12.09 after 12 tests, HS 45.
9. Mashrafe Bin Mortaza: 16.76 after 68 ODIs, HS 51*; 12.05 after 22 tests, HS 79.
10. Mohammad Ashraful Matin: 21.79 after 104 ODIs, HS 100; 25.72 after 38 tests, HS 158*.
11. Mohammad Rafique: 13.38 after 125 ODIs, HS 77; 19.52 after 31 tests, HS 111.
12. Talha Jubair: 2.50 after 6 ODIs, HS 4*; 6.50 after 7 tests, HS 31.
13. Mohammad Manjural Islam: 5.88 after 34 ODIs, HS 13; 3.68 after 17 tests, HS 21.
14. Tapash Baisya: 12.00 after 56 ODIs, HS 35*; 11.29 from 21 tests, HS 66.
15. Tushar Imran: 15.19 from 37 ODIs, HS 65; 6.87 from 4 tests, HS 28.

2007 WC Squad & BAs: -

1. Shahriar Nafees Ahmed: 36.82 after 45 ODIs, HS 123*; 27.56 after 8 tests, HS 138.
2. Tamim Iqbal Khan: 18.73 after 15 ODIs, HS 54.
3. Quazi Habibul Bashar: 21.68 from 111 ODIs, HS 78; 32.09 from 47 tests, HS 113.
4. Aftab Ahmed: 26.63 from 66 ODIs, HS 92; 20.78 from 10 tests, HS 82*.
5. Shakib Al Hasan: 43.80 after 31 ODIs, HS 134*; 24.00 after 2 tests, HS 30.
6. Mohammad Mushfiqur Rahim: 28.90 after 22 ODIs, HS 57; 18.83 after 3 tests, HS 80.
7. Abdur Razzak: 12.85 after 49 ODIs, HS 21; 7.5 after 1 test, HS 15.
8. Mashrafe Bin Mortaza: 16.76 after 68 ODIs, HS 51*; 12.05 after 22 tests, HS 79.
9. Mohammad Ashraful Matin: 21.79 after 104 ODIs, HS 100; 25.72 after 38 tests, HS 158*.
10. Mohammad Rafique: 13.38 after 125 ODIs, HS 77; 19.52 after 31 tests, HS 111.
11. Kazi Shahadat Hossain: 5.00 after 22 ODIs, HS 5*; 8.60 after 8 tests, HS 31.
12. Syed Rasel: 5.00 after 28 ODIs, HS 15; 5.50 after 5 tests, HS 19.
13. Tapash Baisya: 12.00 after 56 ODIs, HS 35*; 11.29 from 21 tests, HS 66. ***
14. Khondokar Mohammad Rajin Saleh Alam: 23.92 from 43 ODIs, HS 108*; 27.19 from 22 tests, HS 89.
15. Mohammad Javed Omar Belim: 24.29 from 58 ODIs, HS 85*; 22.00 from 37 tests, HS 119.
16. Farhad Reza: 28.87 from 12 ODIs, HS 50.

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What sort of numbers will we be looking at after WC2011?
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Old August 1, 2007, 09:50 PM
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Good thread - the kind of stuff that I look forward to in the off season.

Three things:

1. Khaled Mahmud has an average of 14.36 after 77 odi's? What were we thinking?

2. Was Mashud a part of the 2007 squad? I wouldn't think so.

3. The 2003 squad seems to be the weakest, and I'm not just going by numbers here. We had quite a few nothing players in that team (whether they are "nothing" now is a different question). The 2003 looks a lot more packed with experience and more in-depth in all departments in comparison. The current one, of course, is the strongest, which makes it very disheartening to see them perform like they have done in Sri Lanka.
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Old August 1, 2007, 10:01 PM
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well hopefully all of the batsmen will be averaging over 30 if not very close to 30. the numbers roughly went from under 20 to mid 20s between WC 2003 and WC 2007 for the bastmen and allrounders (most of them) nafees and shakib have great averages but they've already dropped a bit since the WC especially shakibs average so maybe he should just focus on his batting for now because imo that's the most important atm. realistically if he can hold a batting average in the 40s and the others hold their current averages or improve on them then we should be able to open up a bowling spot for shahadat hossain in the one-day team, which would make a big difference in the bowling attack.
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... 2. Was Mashud a part of the 2007 squad? I wouldn't think so....
Oops ... edited out.
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Good stats. ACtually looking at the batting averages of the BD squad, I always get confused who is the batsman and who is the bowler.

Hopefully, things have been changing in a positive direction after the arrival of some new players like SN, Mushfiq, Sakib, Aftab, Farhad. Statwise Tamim is still not upto his level; but hopefully he'll catch up.
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I like the thread,Looks like bd has been improving if you look at the stats except the year 2003,well after the WC 2011 most of our batsmen will average 30+ except for the players who have played 100+ matches unless they can show some magical performance and for the bowlers we will see 3 or four bowlers having 120+ wickets Insha-Allah.

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looking at the averages the 2007 team is better than the other two which seems gud.
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Good god!
That 2003 World Cup squad was actually a World Cup squad?!
That's the most pathetic bunch of cricketers I've seen! (I'm going by the stats)
What amazes me most is that we were actually allowed into the competition with a team like that.
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Old August 2, 2007, 06:25 AM
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Stats don't tell us the whole truth about a player's quality in terms of technique, luck or the cricket culture slash infrastructure he is a product of. That said, those numbers don't really lie either, and establish the real context for improvement. We need to improve a lot to do better than we ever have in 2011. Here are my expectations for the WC2011 XV and their batting averages, if we are to do better. I hope they have the opportunity to play enough matches to do this.

1. Tamim Iqbal Khan: ODI and Test average- 35.00
2. Junayed Siddique: ODI average- 35.00
3. Shahriar Nafees Ahmed: ODI and Test average- 35.00
4. Mohammad Ashraful Matin (C): ODI average- 35.00, Test average- 40.00
5. Alok Kapali: ODI and Test average- 35.00
6. Aftab Ahmed: ODI and Test average- 30.00
7. Mohammad Mushfiqur Rahim (WK): ODI average- 30.00, Test average- 40.00
8. Mashrafe Bin Mortaza (VC): ODI and Test average- 25.00
9. Abdur Razzak: ODI average- 20.00
10. Kazi Shahadat Hossain: ODI and Test average- 15.00
11. Syed Rasel: ODI and Test average- 12.00
12. Shakib Al Hasan: ODI and Test average- 30.00
13. Nazmus Sadat or Mohammad Nafees Iqbal: ODI average- 30.00, Test average (for MNI only, I don't expect NS to make a test debut until after the WC)- 35
14. Dollar Mahmud or Talha Jubair: ODI and Test average- 12.00
15. Dhiman Ghosh (Extra WK): ODI and Test average- 30.00

A lot of work ahead ...
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4. Mohammad Ashraful Matin (C): ODI average- 35.00, Test average- 40.00
This one is really a tough call. I would love to see this though. Mr. Matin needs to do magic to achieve this.

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This one is really a tough call. I would love to see this though. Mr. Matin needs to do magic to achieve this.

BTW, this is my 1000th post.
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This one is really a tough call. I would love to see this though. Mr. Matin needs to do magic to achieve this.

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I doubt Ashraful will ever surpass the average of 25, let alone 30 or even 35. I mean it would be a dream come true for ash to even get average of 28-30. The only hopeful one seems Nafees, Aftab, Shakib, Tamim, Mushfiq, and maybe Reza and the new players arriving into those pools.
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This one is really a tough call. I would love to see this though. Mr. Matin needs to do magic to achieve this.

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matin has to play against zimbabwe in his every test to get to an average of 40 runs in test cricket.
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Some observation: (may be this prediction was done late night)

"9. Mohammad Ashraful Matin: 21.79 after 104 ODIs, HS 100; 25.72 after 38 tests, HS 158*."
"4. Mohammad Ashraful Matin (C): ODI average- 35.00, Test average- 40.00"

Say he plays 100 more matches ODI till the next WC. That means he must average close to 47 in those to get his average to 35. Unrealistic expectation on the captain. Not when we have some away matches at NZ, SA and Australia.

Same goes for the test matches.

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5. Shakib Al Hasan: 43.80 after 31 ODIs, HS 134*; 24.00 after 2 tests, HS 30.
12. Shakib Al Hasan: ODI and Test average- 30.00

You are selling him short.
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2. Alok Kapali: 19.67 after 55 ODIs, HS 89*; 17.69 after 17 tests, HS 85.
5. Alok Kapali: ODI and Test average- 35.00

I know you have some unconditional love for him but he needs to make the squad first. Secondly, almost trying to double his average would mean he has to perform 3 times better. Again unrealistic jump for an alrounder unless he found an Allauddin'er cheraj.

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Would be happy if Mr. Matin can get his average up 25 in ODIs and 30's in Test. Sakib should keep his average in upper 30's. For Alok, let him make the team first and play a match.
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Sohel Bhai, please fix the format, its hard to read. Other than that, good thread.
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Sohel Bhai, please fix the format, its hard to read. Other than that, good thread.

Plz someone fix the format...i knw it took long time for him to type all this stats ...thanks for the post
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Good observations as always T_E. I'm not in disagreement with you. They do need to get those averages way up in order to do better than they have to date. If they don't, they won't.
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This one is really a tough call. I would love to see this though. Mr. Matin needs to do magic to achieve this.

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5. Shakib Al Hasan: 43.80 after 31 ODIs, HS 134*; 24.00 after 2 tests, HS 30.
12. Shakib Al Hasan: ODI and Test average- 30.00

You are selling him short.
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2. Alok Kapali: 19.67 after 55 ODIs, HS 89*; 17.69 after 17 tests, HS 85.
5. Alok Kapali: ODI and Test average- 35.00
No surprise there.
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No surprise there.
I honestly think Alok can perform that well while Shakib's batting will stabilize at about 30.00. Shakib's totally out of sorts at the moment, and needs to work very hard in domestic cricket to regain form. As much I like him, he is one of my favorite players, the 40 something average by WC2011 is highly unlikely.
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i know bumping threads is not allowed, but i think this thread deserves it. plus i will add something substantive (or someone else will beat me to it) in the coming days.
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Stats don't tell us the whole truth about a player's quality in terms of technique, luck or the cricket culture slash infrastructure he is a product of. That said, those numbers don't really lie either, and establish the real context for improvement. We need to improve a lot to do better than we ever have in 2011. Here are my expectations for the WC2011 XV and their batting averages, if we are to do better. I hope they have the opportunity to play enough matches to do this.

1. Tamim Iqbal Khan: ODI and Test average- 35.00
2. Junayed Siddique: ODI average- 35.00
3. Shahriar Nafees Ahmed: ODI and Test average- 35.00
4. Mohammad Ashraful Matin (C): ODI average- 35.00, Test average- 40.00
5. Alok Kapali: ODI and Test average- 35.00
6. Aftab Ahmed: ODI and Test average- 30.00
7. Mohammad Mushfiqur Rahim (WK): ODI average- 30.00, Test average- 40.00
8. Mashrafe Bin Mortaza (VC): ODI and Test average- 25.00
9. Abdur Razzak: ODI average- 20.00
10. Kazi Shahadat Hossain: ODI and Test average- 15.00
11. Syed Rasel: ODI and Test average- 12.00
12. Shakib Al Hasan: ODI and Test average- 30.00
13. Nazmus Sadat or Mohammad Nafees Iqbal: ODI average- 30.00, Test average (for MNI only, I don't expect NS to make a test debut until after the WC)- 35
14. Dollar Mahmud or Talha Jubair: ODI and Test average- 12.00
15. Dhiman Ghosh (Extra WK): ODI and Test average- 30.00

A lot of work ahead ...
I'm sure this will be revised now.

My personal expectations:
Tamim Iqbal: Tests - 45+ ODIs - 35+ (SR: High 80s)
Imrul Kayes: Tests - 30+ ODIs - 35+
Zunaed Siddique: Tests - 35+ ODIs - 30+
Shahriar Nafees: Tests - 30+ ODIs - 35+
Mushfiqur Rahim: Tests - 35+ ODIs - 30+
Mahmudullah: Tests - 40+ ODIs - 35+
Shakib Al Hasan: Tests and ODIs - 35+

I'll refrain from speculating on players that haven't debuted such as Shuvagoto, Nasir and Anamul. Although I do have high expectations from them.
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I'm sure this will be revised now.

My personal expectations:
Tamim Iqbal: Tests - 45+ ODIs - 35+ (SR: High 80s)
Imrul Kayes: Tests - 30+ ODIs - 35+
Zunaed Siddique: Tests - 35+ ODIs - 30+
Shahriar Nafees: Tests - 30+ ODIs - 35+
Mushfiqur Rahim: Tests - 35+ ODIs - 30+
Mahmudullah: Tests - 40+ ODIs - 35+
Shakib Al Hasan: Tests and ODIs - 35+

I'll refrain from speculating on players that haven't debuted such as Shuvagoto, Nasir and Anamul. Although I do have high expectations from them.
Mushfiqur Rahim won't average 30 in ODI's, he needs to play fast cameos rather than build an innings from the 47th over.
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