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Old August 27, 2015, 03:14 PM
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Think of a situation while you are pursuing with the old team for 15 years and these newbies playing in the domestic circuits. While you find a consistent performer over a period of 3/4 years and matured skill wise, replace someone with him. In this way, we would have replaced all the oldies with better and consistent performers or may be we would have seen a few mega superstars emerging out of these old players. We would cap max about 50 players in the process or less. We have always brought in newbies seeing a glimpse of talent & not making sure that he's matured enough to come to the team

In my opinion Nafis Iqbal, Alok Kapali, Enamul Haque Junior, Shariar Nafees, Tapash Baisya, Mashrafe....these lot should've been the senior guys in our National XI at this stage and guys like Tamim Iqbal, Sakib, Mushy, Riyad, Nasir should've been the younger guys and Soumya, Sabbir, Litton, Mominul, Mustafiz should've been in the A-team gaining experience all around the world getting ready for being part of a brilliant quality cricket team. As the seniors retire, one by one they should've come to the scene (but not fresh, already battered and gained experience from A-team tours). What the results should've been then? Just think the potential talents of Soumya, Mustafiz, Littton, Sabbir, Mominul with added touring experience and maturity, they would've been with twice the skill-level than what they are now.

I count 3 generations of national team cricketers who were thrown away discarded long before their actual expiry; the Bulbul, Pilot, Belim generation, the Bashar, Opi, Rokon, Biddut generation and the N Iqbal, Alok, Rajin, S Nafees, Tapash, Mashrafe generation all thrown out the wrong way, only exception being may be Mohammed Rafique and Mashrafe Bin Mortaza.

After gaining test status I never saw a Bangladesh test team, not being the youngest-team by average age among all the test playing nations. Why is that? Because the selectors thought they would find the next Wasim, Inzi, Sachin, Lara, Walsh, Warne among the emerging young players for all these years. And as plentiful as they were emerging from a population of 150 millions, to make way for them in the national team generation after generation of veterans are thrown away, Discarded. They didn't even have the patience for the players to evolve and improve. The result, only Rafique from the older generation completed a full life-cycle of a cricketer and only Mashrafe from his generation still representing the XI. And all the rest are new emergence and later discards, again new emergence and again later-on discards. It's like an infinite loop, very few who accidentally broke away from the loop are the constant faces of the national team. We the cricket fans identified this dangerous loop for quite some time. But when will the selectors identify this themselves and be professional enough to break the loop and run the selection process the way it is supposed to run? Only time will tell.
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Old August 27, 2015, 03:26 PM
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What Doc is saying is creating a system which would be moving away from hoping the replacement works to just "next man up"!!! Selectors, Coaches just plugs it in be it for injury or retirement while the team plays at high level at ALL TIMES.
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Old August 29, 2015, 09:16 AM
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What Doc is saying is creating a system which would be moving away from hoping the replacement works to just "next man up"!!! Selectors, Coaches just plugs it in be it for injury or retirement while the team plays at high level at ALL TIMES.
In short Yeah..that's what I was suggesting. It's quite obvious that with the current selection policy, it's an exception, that we suddenly find ourselves with a brilliant team; Experienced core players and very high potential younger guys. But never do the mistake of thinking this is a resultant of a good selection policy. It is rather a very very rare co-incidence that the perfect team combo got together out of no where. The norm is the kind of team combination and quality we have seen from our gaining test status 2001 to 2011/2012.

This national team is an exception and be very sure unless we fix our team selection policy to a true professional policy, we will surely fall back to our norms of selecting a team poor in quality and combination. And certainly playing test on a american-standard Highway with a single medium pacer with no swing and an army of SLAs who all bowls in a very tight line with their only variation the arm-ball which only one can ball at-will and the rest bowls it randomly not knowing if it is an arm-ball or a normal ball until it pitches,and none of whom can turn the ball more than a few inches. The opposition Batsmen come off with a double-ton and 2 tons with a score of 658/5. And not to forget the 8batsman line-up we'll send to bat only to a catastrophic collapse where tail-enders bat better than the recognized batsmen who take the score to a respectable 283 allout. Then the usual chores to a defeat of an innings and hundred something runs.....
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Old August 30, 2015, 05:15 AM
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Let's not ignore the fact lot of the previous generation players were lazy and didn't train, look at aftab, kapali. They never played to their potential, players like that shouldn't be in the team, same way gazi is losing his way now.

Also stated shakib mushy and tamim should have been the younger guys... That's not correct shakib is an atg he would have been in the team from a young age for anyone, rahim hasn't lived up to ability.. But he was an excellent young player with great technical players. He would have been a 5-6 year pro for most teams by now, same with tamim...whether they stayed in the team due to performance is something else, but they would have been given chances at those stages.

Also guys like n Iqbal were simply not good enough and was right to be discarded
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Old August 30, 2015, 05:56 AM
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Shakib and mushy are both in prime years for cricketers. I would hope that even if they started older that they were very much core players by now and established international cricketers otherwise you'd have lost some good years from them if they were only coming into the team now.

I don't think they'd be as good as they are now if they had played domestics this whole time without international cricket.
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